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rallydefault

Just had the white OLED in my cart at Target but didn't go through with it. I just can't justify 350+ bucks if I've mostly been playing on my TV lately.

And I just can't ignore this nagging feeling that we're gonna see something that's actually more powerful in the next year or two.

It does look slick, though.

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Pizzamorg

I honestly still don’t think the OLED model is really all that impressive. I only bought mine because it solved a lot of Christmas problems, IE I get a nice new OLED Switch for Christmas rather than something I probably wouldn’t use and my family get a nice MH Rise special edition Switch (even if that means nothing to them). I will probably give them the OLED Joycons, I understand they did tweak some stuff under the hood, but I would like to hold onto at least the Rise Joycons, since the MH Rise Switch is way cooler than the OLED to me, but I want that OLED screen/new dock. I guess I will just cover the OLED stuff in stickers or something.

Think I am going to buy them Animal Crossing as well, as my Step Mum keeps hinting that is the game she wants.

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JaxonH

I can't go back to the dull gray "blacks" of the LCD model. Sometimes I take my Lite to work still when I'm in a hurry, and every time I just feel disappointment looking at the screen.

The bolder, brighter colors and whiter whites are also a plus, but it's the blacks that make OLED non negotiable for me.

You won't see blacks darker than the screen itself. And LCD doesnt even do that, because it has light bleed from behind lighting up the already gray screen. Whereas OLED shuts off individual pixels with no light bleed, so the difference between the two is actually even more than the comparison below.

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I guess some people don't care much about that. But as soon as I got mine, immediately I was like yup, there's no going back now. Not if I have this as an alternative. Games look sooo much better. And, the battery life is even longer on average. Many games hit 1 hr extra on full brightness, on top of the already insane v2 battery life. Games like Final Fantasy IX getting 10 hrs on max brightness? It's nuts. And I like my battery life.

The kickstand is also a huge plus. I've always been a big tabletop fan, and have been singing it's praises for years. Having a solid full length kickstand that can swivel to any angle kinda feels like a must for a system like this.

And while it may not be as big a deal as the other aspects, having a full 7" screen really does make games more enjoyable, especially in tabletop mode where you're not holding it directly in front of your face. Text is that much easier to read, too.

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Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions

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Grumblevolcano

@JaxonH I think the biggest thing is OLED is most well known for burn-in so you come to the question of whether the screen difference is worth getting burn-in in the future.

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Pizzamorg

Grumblevolcano wrote:

@JaxonH I think the biggest thing is OLED is most well known for burn-in so you come to the question of whether the screen difference is worth getting burn-in in the future.

Yeah that is a big concern for me too, thankfully, I use a pretty healthy mix between docked and handheld so I am hoping to mitigate a lot of the risk.

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JaxonH

@Grumblevolcano
Eh. That's a decision each person can make for themselves, but I'm not concerned.

No device lasts forever. And tbh I'd rather have 5 years with an amazing screen than 10 with a mediocre one. But that's just me. Besides which, I don't think it's as big a deal as some believe. I have an OLED TV, an OLED phone, an OLED Vita, an OLED Switch, and I've never had issues.

I have, however, had issues with LCD. The whole reason I bought an OLED TV in the first place was because my LCD TV got a massive dark splotch on the right side after just a few years of use. Thought screw it. No sense trying to make stuff last forever buying second rate. May as well buy the best and let the cards fall how they may.

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Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions

Switch Friend Code: SW-1947-6504-9005

Pizzamorg

I mean you are very much the exception in that regard, to be fair. Burn in on OLED devices is still very much a real issue, especially with stuff like gaming with stuff constantly on the screen. That is why I avoided all those hyped up LG TVs.

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JaxonH

It's a known risk, but a small one. My rationale isn't "zero risk exists", but rather, "minimal risk exists and those minimal risks don't even remotely offset the massive benefits".

I don't think I'm the exception, because OLED is pretty popular and ppl continue buying it, and even the article linked above in your post says all things considered, they still recommend OLED and don't think most normal ppl will encounter issues, and that it's, quote, "something to be aware of but not concerned". So ya. I'm not worried.

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Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions

Switch Friend Code: SW-1947-6504-9005

Pizzamorg

And that is fine, but I just don’t agree with your statement. I think the issue is as big as people believe it to be, because it is. (I took the link out, as I am not sure what the rules are here for linking to external sites, if people need to find it they can just google it). I believe Nintendo Life have their own article referencing the article I linked, too.

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JaxonH

Eh, everyone can evaluate risk differently.

But I trust my personal experience with 4 devices, and I trust the fact that it's massively popular and ppl continue buying it. If it were truly a big problem to be concerned with, ppl would encounter issues and stop buying that technology. But that's not what we observe. Instead, the OLED market is growing.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/global-oled-market-2021-2026-1...

So ya. Anyone who feels it's too risky should stay away. I would never advocate someone buying something they're uncomfortable with. But it's a huge market growing ever larger- even Apple is getting in on it now, and that doesn't happen if a technology is insufficient with regard to meeting customer expectations.

Basically, I agree 100% with the article you linked. I fully accept everything they said, and that's pretty much my view on it. "Something to be aware of, but not concerned" (provided you dont fall in a high risk category such as someone who binge watches the news every day for years, or someone who plays a single game for thousands of hours- these ppl exist, and they should avoid unless theyre ok with the risk tradeoff). That goes doubly for Switch if you play hybrid, because it means your playtime is being halved versus any other device.

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Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions

Switch Friend Code: SW-1947-6504-9005

Pizzamorg

It's an extremely slippery slope to equate a large quantity of people as some sort of seal. Lots of people think the moon isn't real, but that doesn't make it true. Just like lots of people buying OLED TVs doesn't mean there ain't a real issue with burn in, especially with gaming.

And I ain't saying you need to change how you're thinking. I'm just saying there's always someone in these conversations who needs to do a "acshullllly 'insert personal anecdote here' burn in ain't a real problem".

And every time it's just like... Bruh. You can't tell someone burn in isn't a problem because you've not had a problem personally yourself.

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JaxonH

I can appreciate that. But I think in the nuance of what I'm saying (yes, it's a risk, but it shouldn't be a concern for most normal users, as your linked article also said, on top of which my personal beliefs are based partly on personal experience, and because my personal experience has been positive, not with one but four devices, I feel that much more confident- its not the basis of my conclusion- if I was concerned I never would have bought the devices to begin with, so clearly my beliefs were formed long before my anecdotes- they simply reaffirm my beliefs; neither was I using my experiences as evidence, but rather, an explanation for how I came to the conclusions I have)... there's a massive difference between that and someone saying, "eh, it's a hoax, doesn't exist, why would anyone ever consider that?"

Again, my beliefs basically align with the article you shared. Anyone wishing yo know where I stand on the issue, one only need read that article. And since you shared it, I can only assume you agree with their assessment, which I also agree with.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/home-entertainment/oled-screen-burn...

Also, popularity doesn't mean it's not an issue. But expanding popularity does mean, all things considered, people are still buying them over and over again despite said issues and stated risks. And that isn't meaningless. In fact, it tells us a lot. It tells us, on the whole, most people aren't having issues, or if they are, they perceive the benefits so great they're willing to buy anyways.

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Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions

Switch Friend Code: SW-1947-6504-9005

Pizzamorg

And that is fine for you, but I think it is a disservice to tell anyone who is concerned about burn in that it isn’t really a big deal because you personally haven’t had issues. The last thing you want to do is to talk someone into buying into OLED tech, only for them to have burn in problems because they play long sessions of games with static huds and then have remorse over their purchase.

If you aren’t concerned about OLED or have had no problems, then fine/great for you!

If you have any concern about OLED burn in, don’t let anyone tell you otherwise, do your research. Look at your gaming habits, the kind of games you play, how you play etc and then weigh up the risk.

Also keep in mind, LCD isn’t rubbish, they are still great screens. They are also often cheaper and it is next to impossible to end up with burn in or retention on those screens. So for some they will be the better solution.

Life to the living, death to the dead.

JaxonH

New Monster Hunter Rise Sunbreak trailer and amiibo looks slick.

Clearly a werewolf inspired monster, and the woman looks like Rhondine's sister.

@Pizzamorg
I said I don't think it's a big deal (which I don't). But I also specifically stated anyone who feels it's a risk should stay away. I'm not telling anyone who is skeptical they shouldn't be. I'm just saying I'm not, and explaining why I don't buy into the excessive fear over it.

As I mentioned before, ppl can make their own decisions and evaluate their own risk. But I also don't think it needs to be brought up every time OLED is discussed, as everyone is already aware. Ppl can do their own research if they're concerned.

All devices have a limited lifespan. The question isn't if something will happen, but when. So it's just a matter of evaluating whether the expected lifespan and benefits during that expected lifespan is worth the cost. And that's a judgment each person has to make for themselves. If someone fears burn-in then they'll make their personal decision accordingly. I'm not interfering with that. I'm just saying it's a great system and I recommend it.

Oh, and I agree. For some LCD will be a better solution. It definitely works, and there's nothing wrong with that if LCD is someone's choice. Certainly isn't my choice though.

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Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions

Switch Friend Code: SW-1947-6504-9005

rallydefault

Well, the OLED screen itself means very little to me because I mostly play on TV, so... burn-in or not, it's not the selling feature for me.

Frankly, the things I want the most from a new Switch are the dock with the wired internet and new Joycons lol

But 350 is just too much for me at the moment. That's a lot of clams to put toward my family in other regards.

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Dany4k

For people that use the Switch connected to the TV most of the time (like me, 95% of the time is docked) this is a pointless upgrade. An ethernet adapter is like 10 bucks and even then the speed is not that great from several tests I have seen online (even on the new dock the internet speeds are the same as wifi).

Even the "new" Nintendo 3DS upgrades were more useful than this, the console was more powerfull and saw increased fps on several games.

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JaxonH

Well, sure. I don't think anyone's arguing TV only players should upgrade.

Hard disagree on New 3DS though. A few games did see improvements but not many. A few games seeing improvements is negligible compared to the difference a larger OLED makes for every single game on the system, the longer battery life and tabletop mode that's actually quality.

Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions

Switch Friend Code: SW-1947-6504-9005

Giancarlothomaz

i knew Nintendo would never show Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2 at TGA 2021, they are saving the game to showcase more information regarding the game at E3 2022.

i like HD Rumble.

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WoomyNNYes

@JaxonH I wasn't planning on getting an OLED for a while, but now that I've tracked down a white one for my nieces, AND my fan has gotten louder and crazier in the past week, I'm getting nervous, and I started watching to see if I can find a red/blue OLED.

I figured my fan just had a lose fit, because it only made the whirring sound on occassion while using as handheld. But yesterday it was making the sound docked, which is a first, I think. It's been like this since 2017 or 2018. Works find otherwise.

Here's the whirring sound. I don't know if anyone else's makes this sound. 😁 It's always temporary, only seems to happen when i boot up Splatoon, or Rocket League. Hmmm both online games.🤔

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