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jump

@Anti-Matter I'd consider you more extremly closed off than the average gamer ;p

Nicolai wrote:

Alright, I gotta stop getting into arguments with jump. Someone remind me next time.

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Grumblevolcano

@JaxonH I think it's a two way thing, Capcom are one of the 3 big 3rd parties that has taken the Switch seriously for the vast majority of the Switch era. Things were rough regarding the first year where they weren't willing to localize MHXX but from 2018 onwards Capcom's support of the Switch has been very strong. They even released Mega Man 11 the same day as the other platforms which is something was unheard of for most 3rd parties back then.

The other 2 big 3rd parties are Square Enix and Koei Tecmo. I'd put Ubisoft and Bethesda as a kind of middle ground, Ubisoft Switch support started strong but then fizzled out over the past 2 years meanwhile Bethesda's support has been strong but limited (DOOM, Wolfenstein and Skyrim sums up pretty much their whole support).

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TheFrenchiestFry

@Grumblevolcano Bethesda's support is literally just DOOM at this point

Wolfenstein New Colossus and Youngblood both came out on Switch but it's still missing Old Blood and New Order, and Bethesda Game Studios only put out Skyrim and some ports of mobile games

Switch is still missing out on stuff like Fallout, Evil Within, Dishonored and RAGE

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jump

@Grumblevolcano I’d argue Warner Bros have been more supportive than some of the ones you have named. Mortal Kombat was same day as other consoles, they have rarely skipped a multiple format game on Switch and done some (rubbish) exclusives like Bakugan.

Nicolai wrote:

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JoyBoy

Don't be silly! Retro Studios has been the most supportive by working hard behind closed doors... And never leaving the room.

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JaxonH

A lot of Bethesda games either released before Switch had established itself, or are too demanding to run.

It’s not like they released a Fallout New Vegas remaster and skipped Switch, for example. If they were remastering it for current platforms I’m sure they would bring it to Switch. Just as I’m sure New Order would come if it didn’t release back on PS3 and get ported to current systems before Switch was even released.

Bethesda has done just about all that can reasonably be expected.

Ubisoft has done ok. They brought Trials Rising, which is one of my favorite video games of all time, and they made Mario Rabbids which is one of the best strategy games I’ve ever played, they brought Immortals Fenyx Rising and actually managed to make it look and run decent in handheld mode, and they dumped the best classic Assassin’s Creed games onto the system that could actually run. There’s still more they could do- I’d like to see the original 3 one day, for example, but those games are pretty dated by comparison so I’m not too concerned about it, especially considering there’s already four different entries on the platform and I’m never going to finish them anyways. And, there’s been some others but, generally speaking Ubisoft has done well, but it could be better.

Square Enix is the one I’m most disappointed in. They’ve done a great job with mid tier games and JRPG‘s but they have made little to no effort to put their more demanding games or western focused games on the system. Granted, we have leaks saying Life Is Strange is coming- that would be a good start. But they should’ve put Tomb Raider on Switch a long time ago. At least the first two, and given they were able to make the second entry for 360, I’m sure they could manage the 3rd on Switch if they actually wanted to. And while I really don’t care much for FFXV or FFXVI, the remake of 7 could definitely run on Switch (not with full parity specs-wise obviously, but it’s definitely not beyond the realm of Switch-capabilties). As could Kingdom Hearts (which I’m not a huge fan of, but I still like the games and would actually give them another shot if they were on a hybrid system). There’s just so much Square Enix hasn’t done.

They did give us Bravely Default 2, and Octopath Traveler, and Triangle Strategy, and we’re getting Neo: TWEWY and they did put Final Fantasy X/X-2 and XII on the system, which were my #1 most wanted games from them before they were announced. So they have done a lot, but it’s hard to ignore that they’re only putting games on the system that are really easy to run. It’s like they don’t want to actually put forth effort in optimizing a game. If they even catch a whiff of required optimization they scrap the project entirely, or don’t even bother.

Still, considering where Nintendo was as a platform for the last two decades in terms of third-party viability, Switch has achieved far beyond my wildest expectations of support. I knew going in it would take time to persuade third parties that the cost benefit analysis weighs heavily enough in favor of low-risk benefit to a actually trust investing large sums into the platform. But we’ve seen huge forward strides in that respect. And it will only continue to improve over time. We saw a huge boon in 2018-2020. Moving forward, it’ll likely be a more gradual increase. At least until Switch 2, at which point I suspect we’ll see another large jump in support as an entire legion of games suddenly become viable candidates for porting.

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Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
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Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
Zachariah 12:10 (500 yrs before Christ)
They will look on Me whom they pierced

kkslider5552000

I think we're just seeing the near death of big 3rd party exclusives and Nintendo has benefited from that. For that matter so has Sony, with the day 1 releases of formerly Nintendo only 3rd party series like Ace Attorney and TWEWY. And the death of new consoles having a notable enough jump in power to justify making games too powerful for current gen systems (though this might be far more obvious when Switch 2 comes out).

Also, because I will bring this up until it stops being true, a lot of these companies decided to just make less games, so they kinda need more re-releases to have games be released at all and make them more money.

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Grumblevolcano

@JaxonH That's why I put Bethesda as middle ground, outside of DOOM and Skyrim they used the backwards compatibility program on XB1/Series X|S to bring back older Bethesda games to a modern system rather than do multiplatform ports so there's not that much on PS4 that isn't on Switch:

  • Wolfenstein The New Order + The Old Blood
  • Dishonored franchise
  • Prey (2017)
  • Elder Scrolls Online
  • The Evil Within 1+2
  • Fallout 4 + Fallout 76
  • Rage 2

Grumblevolcano

rallydefault

I still think it's crazy how we don't have a Kingdom Hearts Collection on Switch. It would sell millions upon millions of copies.

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JaxonH

Box art of the year?

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Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
Zachariah 12:10 (500 yrs before Christ)
They will look on Me whom they pierced

Ralizah

@JaxonH Honestly, I don't mind S-E's approach to the system. I'd MUCH rather get (timed) exclusives built with the system in mind than blurry ports of games like FFVII Remake. And while it's pretty much the only demanding port at this point, I'll remind you that they tweaked so much of Dragon Quest XI that they effectively half-remade the game just so it'd run well on the Switch. S-E is near the top of the pile for me.

I used to say that Capcom's support was the worst of the big publishers we have on the system, but, well... can't say that anymore! They're going to be nearing the best once this year is out, with amazing games like Great Ace Attorney (I'm SO excited for that), MH Rise, and MH Stories 2. And maybe even a timed exclusive Resident Evil game built around the specs of the Switch.

While I'm happy that Strikers and Catherine hit the system and am deliriously happy about Nocturne HD and SMT V, I will say that Atlus' support took a massive hit coming off the 3DS. I realize they're small-ish and can't pump out big new games for the system every year, I'd have loved to see ports of older games or even just smaller projects that, in the past, would have gone to the 3DS. They practically carried the 3DS as much as Nintendo did, so while I'm glad they're finally on-board, the change in degree of support does feel a bit jarring.

Oh, and the box art for The Great Ace Attorney looks really nice as well.

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C'mon, Capcom, I wanted to buy SOME digital games this year. They need to turn out more lousy box arts like the one for MH Rise so that I don't mind going digital.

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Grumblevolcano

I think Switch will get FFVII Remake in some form (might be only on the new Switch model or a cloud version) around the same time as Xbox though I think Intergrade's DLC may have been a way to extend the PS exclusivity past April 10th 2021. Think it's safe to assume if FFVII Remake isn't announced for other platforms at E3 2021 that it's not coming to non-PS platforms this year.

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Grumblevolcano

JaxonH

@Ralizah
If it's a choice of either or, then I agree. I'd also rather get games built ground up.

I just don't think the two are mutually exclusive. You can build games ground up while also porting over other games that are feasible on the system.

For the record, I like the Monster Hunter Rise boxart. Easily one of the best in the entire series. Only World and maybe MH3U were better.

Especially the Deluxe Edition with the sunset in the background. Just gorgeous. This is the picture used for the boxart.

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A noticeable step up from MH4U

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Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
Zachariah 12:10 (500 yrs before Christ)
They will look on Me whom they pierced

Grumblevolcano

@Slowdive List looks similar to how E3 2019 was, Sony and EA branched off to do their own thing meanwhile the rest mostly stayed.

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Ralizah

@JaxonH The sunset in the Deluxe box art is a nice addition, but the standard box art is just super boring, IMO.

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Colors are flat. Palamute looks like it's falling over.

And yeah, MH4U's cover is boring as well. Another game I went digital on, btw.

World has really nice box art, though.

EDIT: Other than Life is Strange, I think S-E HAS been porting over a lot of the games that are feasible. And they even seem to be porting that series over now. I have to wonder if they won't port Kingdom Hearts and Tomb Raider because the connected story sequels wouldn't work well on the system, though. KH3 would require a lot of work to run on the system, and the later Tomb Raider games don't even run particularly well on the last-gen power consoles.

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Grumblevolcano

@Slowdive Yeah, the E3 2021 list pretty much suggests studios also prefer the week packed full of announcements approach over last year's spreading announcements very thinly over 4 months which is nice to see. EA will probably do the thing where while they're not officially part of E3, their event is in the timeframe of E3.

Who knows about Sony though, the timeframe of E3 2019 didn't have much meanwhile what would've had been the timeframe of E3 2020 had the big PS5 Future of Gaming event.

Grumblevolcano

Ralizah

I'm actually kinda surprised The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles is doing so well. It's the second best-selling game on Amazon atm, under New Pokemon Snap. Of course, it'll sink once the preorder surge ends, but it's doing really well.

Ace Attorney is a known property, but it's not, like, a mammoth I.P., so it's heartening to see how excited people clearly are about it.

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kkslider5552000

I'm really happy and surprised to hear that. Ace Attorney has been the most beloved but not particularly popular series since it released outside of Japan 15 years ago and AFAIK that's never really changed.

Maybe an actual new release outside of Japan (and hyped as such) has helped, combined with being the first "new" AA game on Switch. I really do hope it does super well, especially since it would probably be a really good jumping on point for the series.

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