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Dezzy

JaxonH wrote:

@Dezzy
then I see no reason to believe they could figure out how to do it for something infinitely more complex that requires it’s own Tensor Cores on the chip, and would ultimately introduce a fatal design flaw of games not working when undocked.

Well I assume they're not gonna have that function working when it's undocked either way. I assume the power draw will just be too high to run off a battery. Plus you don't really need any higher than 720p on a handheld screen. So either way, I'm assuming they're gonna be developing a version where the tensor cores only activate when docked.

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Giancarlothomaz

@Magician we need to remember/consider that the Legend of Zelda franchise is notorious for the delays until the final release of it games, the significant impact of the pandemic in the development of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2 and the potencial release of the remaster of Wind Waker e Twilight Princess on Switch.

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JaxonH

@Dezzy
I don’t think that’s the case. DLSS would make it less demanding to run in handheld, not more.

Handheld games could render at 1080p for the cost of rendering 540p or 720p. That’s the whole benefit. It lowers the power required for the same performance, or increases the performance for the same power drawn.

So ya, DLSS in handheld would mean getting 1080p on every single game across the board, with battery life equivalent to rendering 540p or 720p.

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JaxonH

I’m really enjoying Persona 5 Strikers

Definitely a little pixelated on Switch but once I adjusted it was fine. The sprites are perfect, closer shots of 3D models looks good, audio is fantastic, music is excellent, gameplay feels VERY similar to Persona 5. It really does feel like a Persona experience. It’s not exactly the same. Action combat for example. But all the same characters with the same voice actors with the same writing and a heavy focus on story, with a lot of similar mechanics like All Out Attacks, Persona skills, items, equipping gear, accessories, etc. You explore jails which are just like palace dungeons, there’s the Velvet Room. The menus have the same snazzy animations and transition screens still show the calendar changing...

It feels like Persona. It really does. I’m having just as much fun playing this as when I was playing Persona 5. Highly recommended to anyone looking for a Persona experience. It almost doesn’t even feel like a spin off. Like, Persona Q, Persona Dancing, Persona Arena... these felt like spin-offs. And I still enjoyed them- I played Persona 4 Dancing as my first Persona game, and it’s the only game I’ve ever platinumed. Those still integrated the Persona experience, at least to an extent, into an entirely separate genre. This feels like the same genre, but with action combat and some slight differences. It feels 80% the same. I really do love it.

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TheFrenchiestFry

@JaxonH It's insane how close they got to emulating the structure of mainline Persona minus some key elements that I can actually excuse them not being there for the sake of streamlining the story to fit the gameplay

Although those opening hours, I can see people who haven't necessarily at least read up on Persona 5's plot being a bit lost as to who these characters are because the game doesn't necessarily care about catching up newcomers. I'm already seeing references to stuff like "last year's Change of Heart incident", the Meta-Nav app, Haru's love for gardening and Yusuke's love for art that I think might fly over some people's heads, but it's standalone enough where I think for the most part in terms of the story specific to this game they can come into it and be mostly fine. The little things are still there for people who've played P5 or P5R though and it's nice attention to detail. They especially nailed the look of Yongen-jaya from the OG game

Also lmao your first Persona game was P4D? That's a first I've seen

TheFrenchiestFry

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rallydefault

I think the Switch is good into early 2022 if they do absolutely nothing new for the hardware. After that point... indies and 1st-party stuff as far as the eye can see lol. Which would be wicked sad. I absolutely LOVED playing Spyro on my Switch, and the new DOOM games, and I'm looking forward to Crash 4. It may not be much, but those were purchases I would have made on other consoles/PC if the Switch versions didn't exist.

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Grumblevolcano

Monster Hunter Rise is a perfect example of how Nintendo's stance on 3rd parties has changed. Monster Hunter was a big franchise on 3DS but there were big 1st party releases nearby. For example:

  • Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate - Majora's Mask 3D launched same day
  • Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate - Luigi's Mansion 2 launched less than a week later

Meanwhile 3rd party games like MH Rise pretty much have several months to themselves as the next big 1st party release after 3D World last week is Mario Golf Super Rush on June 25th.

Grumblevolcano

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JaxonH

@TheFrenchiestFry
Totally.

And I've noticed for references to Persona 5, they integrate a way to explain what it is through Sophia, since she knows nothing and everything has to be explained to her. Like "what's a palace" and "what's a treasure", etc.

This really does feel like a mainline Persona. This is the best KT collab I've ever played. Better than Age of Calamity even, and I thought Age of Calamity was the best KT collab before this game. The difference is, Age of Calamity is still structured like a Warriors game, whereas Persona 5 Strikers is structured like a mainline Persona game. Which, that's fine for AoC. The Warriors structure actually fit it really well given the history of the war in Hyrule. But P5S is in another league altogether.

If it wasn't for P4D I'd have never gotten into the series. Well, I probably would have eventually, but back then I was so new to gaming I was still repelled by turn based JRPGs. Had tried Persona 4 Golden and Final Fantasy X on Vita and hated them. But I loved Persona 4 Dancing. After Fire Emblem Awakening opened my eyes to the wonderful world of turn based combat, I went back and played FFX through to completion, then played a large chunk of P4G.

To this day, I credit Persona 4 Golden as the best rhythm game I've ever played. Though Kingdom Hearts melody of memory is perhaps a distant second.

@rallydefault
Even if Switch stays stays the same until next generation in 2024, I still think it'll be fine. Support won't come to a grinding halt, it'll just evolve. Some doors will close while others will open. Capcom finally getting on board and killing it with Capcom Arcade, Ghosts n Goblins Resurrection, Monster Hunter Rise, Monster Hunter Stories 2, Resident Evil Outbreak, etc is just the beginning. EA is now finally gearing up with support... we see alot of new games coming in, even as others phase out. As long as Switch install base is there, the support will continue. If it's worth releasing Switch focused games at 80 mil, it'll certainly be worth it at 100 mil, 120 mil, 140 mil, etc.

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JaxonH

@Grumblevolcano

As far as their exclusive lineup distribution, they have given Monster Hunter its own month. Something they haven’t done for Bravely Default 2. So you’re right on that. But New Pokémon Snap is in April, and I imagine that’s going to be bigger than Mario Golf.

February
Mario 3D World
Bravely Default 2
March
Monster Hunter Rise
April
New Pokémon Snap
June
Mario Golf
July
Zelda Skyward Sword

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Grumblevolcano

@JaxonH I don't think New Pokemon Snap will be bigger. Pokemon spinoffs in the past have only done around 1 million (even last year's Mystery Dungeon on Switch), meanwhile Mario Tennis Aces got 3 million. I'm guessing around 1 million for New Pokemon Snap and 2.5 million for Mario Golf (Tennis is a more popular sport).

Grumblevolcano

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JaxonH

@Grumblevolcano
We'll see, but I suspect New Pokémon Snap is going to be alot more popular than Mystery Dungeon, which was a rough GBA era remaster in a niche genre. New Pokémon Snap looks gorgeous, modern, and it's a series people have been demanding for quite some time.

Either way, it's a big enough game.

@TheFrenchiestFry
BTW, did you watch the bonus content video? It's so good. As someone who owned a $2000 Yamaha recorder back in the late 90's recording music, it was interesting watching the sound booth session. Such a great add on for fans. Art book and soundtrack alone, but the video really adds some heft to it.

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All have sinned and fall short of Gods glory. Wages of sin is death. Romans

God so loved the world He sent His only Son- whoever believes on Him has eternal life. Unless you believe, you will die in your sins. Whoever believes, rivers of living water flow within them. John

TheFrenchiestFry

@JaxonH I am aware that the bonus video is the theme song making of for You Are Stronger with Lyn and I'll probably get around to watching it soon but I'm so sucked into this game right now I'm not really thinking of anything else lol

I've peered into the art book and these illustrations were really nice. Apparently Koei Tecmo themselves were the ones responsible for designing the new characters introduced in Strikers like Zenkichi, Sophia and the Jail Monarchs with supervision from P-Studio, and if that's the case they literally look like characters the core Persona team would've conceptualized themselves. They really did their homework for this one

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DuskformLycanroc

@TheFrenchiestFry

P4D was the first persona game I owned and played but I had watched 1/2 a P4G lets play before hand so knew the characters a bit.

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JaxonH

What’s up with this never ending obsession with anniversaries all of a sudden.

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God so loved the world He sent His only Son- whoever believes on Him has eternal life. Unless you believe, you will die in your sins. Whoever believes, rivers of living water flow within them. John

Yian_Garuga

@JaxonH I know it's crazy now! Splatoon might have a big one this year too.

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Buizel

@JaxonH yep I'm only 90 minutes in my I'm amazed how...un-Warriors this game feels. It really does seem to be an RPG that happens to have Warriors combat.

Very excited to see where this goes. Unfortunately it just makes me want P5 on the Switch all that much more.

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Ralizah

All these glowing Strikers reactions lol. Goddamit, this HAD to be the game I insisted on a physical copy of.

I think I'm going to skip Bravely 2 for the time being. Between my backlog, Persona 5 Strikers, and Monster Hunter Rise, I'm pretty much booked for months as is.

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JaxonH

Ok. Project Triangle Strategy. My guys. This game. This freaking game lol...

Oh my gosh this game. This is it. This is the one. This is the strategy RPG I have been waiting for and dare I say it... I think I may like it just as much as Fire Emblem.

And let me just expound on that statement by saying, Fire Emblem is one of my favorite franchises of all time. It really is. And this game... this freaking game.

I haven’t felt like this since I first played Fire Emblem Awakening demo on 3DS. That was when I had my epiphany about turn based games. It was like my eyes had suddenly become opened and I could see. I had never felt that way in a video game before. Strategic chess like combat with a serious story that involves characters dying. I never knew a video game could do something like that.

I have continued to love Fire Emblem, but I’d be lying if I said any of them I’ve played since Awakening have allowed me to fully re-live that initial experience. This game though... I’m reliving it. Oh man am I reliving it.

I came into this game with all kinds of presuppositions about how it should play, and at first I had my notepad out and I was saying oh, they should let you do this like FE, they should let you do that like FE. but the more I play, the more I realize it doesn’t need to be like FE in every single respect. I like that you don’t toggle enemy movements, I like the elevation and direction factor into damage, I like the critical hits are based on squeezing an enemy from both sides. I like it all. Is it different? It is. But it is equally good, and it has shown me that Fire Emblem is not the only way to do things.

That said, this game reminds me an awful lot of Fire Emblem Awakening. Not in the minutia of mechanical similarities but in tone, style and visual appearance. The sprites probably add to that.

What I also like is the incredibly strong focus on story, good narrative and dialog, voice acting, and the triangle strategy of Utility, Morality and Liberty. This game has some serious questions and choices for you to make. They might not seem that major at the time but I can see how they shape who you are as a character in the game has already made it clear that who joins you in battle will depend on your character. That’s amazing.

Also a small thing, but I really like how you can press X on a Sprite when they are talking in dialogue and it will pop up a nice artistic drawing of them that has their name and title, so that you can remember who’s who with all the characters in the game. There’s a lot of them and it’s easy to lose track of exactly who the person is this speaking and where they are from and what their title is. I played through a second time and realized the gravity of the initial assassination because the first time I played I didn’t realize it was Roland’s brother, and I didn’t realize it was his sister that screamed out in horror.

If you haven’t played this demo, I don’t know what I can say to convince you to, but I will at least stress that I think this might be the best strategy game I’ve played since Awakening, and I think it has the potential to be the best full stop. Even if it’s not, it’s certainly among the best. Assuming the rest of the game lives up to what I’ve played in the demo. But I’m confident it will. They’ve really struck gold with this game.

@timleon
I want P4 or P5 on Switch, but honestly, it sates my thirst for it because it’s so similar. I legit feel like I’m playing Persona on Switch. A fresh take on it, at that.

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All have sinned and fall short of Gods glory. Wages of sin is death. Romans

God so loved the world He sent His only Son- whoever believes on Him has eternal life. Unless you believe, you will die in your sins. Whoever believes, rivers of living water flow within them. John

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