Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@Magician That would feel like a bad omen what with their work on Federation Force.

I'd love to see Next Level's canned Mario wrestling game get revived, it sounded great!

@gcunit

I love my Sony handhelds, but Sony released the PSP and the PS Vita when they were a Japanese company. Now they're based in Murica and are focusing their products on western gaming sensibilities. They don't care about portable-centric gaming that dominates Japan these days. 8k gaming and PSVR 2 are their focus, for better or worse.

@link3710 every year or so we get a new release of street fighter two. Other than the rising sun image taken out the game continues to sell. I don’t know why punch out would be any different. Doesn’t Disney put a disclaimer on their old films on the Disney channel. Surely punch out isn’t destined to die because of the lefties. And damn it I vote left.

@TheJGG well Sony is watching that Nintendo is making a lot of money with Switch, knowing Ps Vita flaws, maybe Sony will try to steal Nintendo thunder, Sony is taking quite a beating with Switch, they don't want to lose dominance in the USA and japan sales charts,@Gcnuit Sony did two Handheld console, one during the DS era(PSP) and another during the 3DS/Wii U era(PS Vita) and Sony did this because they realized the Handheld console market is very lucrative, so they tried to compete with Nintendo, PSP was a sucess with 80 milions consoles sold, sadly PS Vita despite some excelent games, was abandoned by Sony and third party to focus on PS4.

@sixrings To be fair, there's people pushing for censorship on both sides of the political line lol. Both of which should be taken with more than a grain of salt.

But Street Fighter isn't anywhere near as reliant on stereotypes as the original punch out was either so...

In any case, @Magician while they might assist on MP4 (and art style and poor release timing aside, there's certainly stuff in that game that could help expand Metroids world), interviews suggested they were working to have multiple games in the pipeline as part of the buyout, so I doubt theyd be fully dedicated to that if it was the case.

@link3710 maybe but they didn’t mind releasing it on the Nvidia shield in China. And the nes game is available on NSO while the arcade version is on Hamster ACA. So perhaps it isn’t as big a issue as some might think.

Just curious as to what other people here are using their Switches/Switch Lites as. Besides having physical games what stuff from the eshop?

Me, ive been getting half of the Resident Evil games and a few RPG stuff like Trails of Cold Steel 1, Vesperia and Ys Origin. So pretty much my Switch Lite is a portable Resident Evil and RPG house

@urrutiap

In my eyes, the Switch is the ultimate port / indie / first party machine. I want all my favorite games from years past (from Atari 2600 to PS4) to be available on Switch. If a game is multiplatform, I look towards purchasing the Switch version regardless of it being the worst version of that game performance wise. Portability is king with me. Whether that's playing in tabletop mode on break at work, using my fight stick while in tv mode at home, or in handheld mode while laying in bed.

Genre wise, I try to dabble in everything.

Although genres like survival, sim racing, and competitive multiplayer aren't my cup of tea.

@urrutiap My Switch is mostly a Nintendo-first party and indie machine with some classic games like the PS1/PS2 FF games

I'm generally adverse towards buying current gen games on Switch because I have so many other options and the portability isn't enough to sway me if a game just looks considerably worse on the Switch next to PC or PS4/5 (e.g. Wolfenstein II)

Sony are pretty much done with Japan at this point. I can’t really blame them since they have more success in the west. I don’t get why people doesn’t understand this?

For me the Switch is only used for Nintendo games only. Handheld doesn’t matter to me that much. To get me to buy third party games on switch it needs achievements system and way better online.

99% of my gaming diet is non-Western AAA games, so I play most stuff on the Switch.

I wouldn't play something like Wolfenstein on the Switch. I did play part of The Witcher 3 and all of the Blood and Wine expansion on that system, but it's definitely not the optimal platform for it.

For me, Switch is my one-stop shop for modern indies, Japanese AA releases, and exclusives.

I don't get why people seem to be insisting that Sony has no interest in portables or Japan. Just because current evidence suggests a trend away from portables and Japan, wherever there are games to be sold in decent numbers a games company is going to be interested. The trend is not irreversible. The influence of Japan upon the games industry shouldn't need explaining here, and to think that Sony is just permanently turning its back on that does not sit right with me.

@gcunit I mean Japan has a population of 130 million. Europe 750 million. NA 400 million. I’m sure Sony can survive without Japan just as Microsoft has and I wish Nintendo were more western friendly.

Sony's corporate Americanization was probably inevitable, but it still saddens me as a long-time fan.

It's probably only a matter of time before the same thing happens to Nintendo. At that point, I think, I'll be done with buying consoles, and will become a dedicated retro gamer. I think we at least have a few more generations before that happens, though.

I kinda doubt it. If anything, this feels like Sony being kind of out of step with the times. I could understand them (if not agree with them) doing this in the PS3 era but...now? Japanese gaming stopped being uncool again by the time the Switch came out, so I find it to be just kind of odd (or they just know most of the big budget Japanese games will end up on their console regardless of their own releases, which is not necessarily inaccurate).

Also, I can't imagine Nintendo pandering to an audience for too long, unless that audience is the people who work at Nintendo.

There are a number of reasons Sony won’t make another handheld, many of which have already been touched on.

But one of the key reasons is, they do not have the capability to support both a home console and a handheld, much less a home console, VR and handheld.

This is partly why Nintendo failed with their consoles for so long. Yes, they made other mistakes. But the game droughts were also a big part of it. They just didn’t have the means to support two completely independent systems with their best games at a pace fast enough to keep momentum going. They would have to favor one at the expense of the other, and then when momentum started on one, they switched back over to the other... there’s a reason they finally decided to make a hybrid, where they can release a handheld only version of it and sell it as a $200 handheld to the people who were previously buying their handhelds, but also sell it as a console to the people who were previously buying their consoles, while also drawing in megatons of new consumer interest due to the fact it’s a 3-in-1 hybrid device.

Sony ran into the same problem. They couldn’t support Vita and PS3/PS4 at the same time. You could point to the PSP, but that was a rare era in gaming when even Nintendo had both a successful handheld and console. That was the exception, not the rule. Sony does not have the resources to make top-shelf, A-tier games for two platforms simultaneously. They manage VR because it requires far fewer development resources due to lack of competition and a lower standard from consumers due to the fact not that many great games are made in VR compared to traditional style gaming.

The only way Sony will ever break back into the handheld market is if they themselves decide to go with a hybrid system. And that’s not something they’re going to do in the next 15 years. However. The day will come in a few generations time, where the generational leap is so hard to discern, they could practically make a hybrid system with comparable graphics to their current system but which offers gaming on the go also. It would be a lateral move in terms of power, like Switch was a lateral move from Wii U in terms of power, but nobody would care at that point because a forward jump wouldn’t really produce anything that discernible anyways. That’s where the market will ultimately head. But that’s not going to happen anytime soon. Not until they can get away with a lateral generational move while still offering visual fidelity comparable to Xbox.

@urrutiap
Basically everything.

I own a PC (2080 ti) and a PS5, Switch and Switch Lite. I buy every single good game that comes to Switch... on the Switch. Unless it’s a very compromised version due to being too much for the system to handle (think Outer Worlds), or something I think just won’t ever release on Switch, I play it on the Switch.

Everything from 1st party titles (Mario 3D World, Odyssey and 3D All Stars, Pikmin 3, Zelda BotW 1, 2 and Skyward Sword, Fire Emblem Three Houses, Xenoblade Chronicles 1 and 2, Splatoon 2 and 3, Luigi’s Mansion 3, DKC Tropical Freeze, Pokémon Let’s Go, Sword/Shield, Diamond/Pearl and Legends, Mario Golf, etc) to 3rd party exclusives (Monster Hunter Rise, Monster Hunter Stories 2, Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate, Shin Megami Tensei V, Rune Factory 5, Astral Chain, Bayonetta 2 and 3, Octopath Traveler, Bravely Default 2, Triangle Strategy, Mario Rabbids Kingdom Battle, Ultra Street Fighter II, Daemon X Machina, Marvel vs Capcom Ultimate 3, etc) to 3rd party Multiplats (Sniper Elite 4, Persona 5 Strikers, Trails of Cold Steel 3 and 4, Ys VIII and Ys IX, Romance of Three Kingdoms XIV, Bioshock Collection, Borderlands Collection, Burnout Paradise, Okami HD, Catherine Full Body, Crash 4, Dark Souls, Skyrim, Tony Hawk 1/2, Diablo 2 and 3, Doom Eternal, Witcher 3, DQ Builders 2, Dragon Quest XI S, Ni No Kuni, Divinity OS2, AI Somnium Files, Dragon’s Dogma, Resident Evil 0, 1, 4, 5, 6, Revelations 1/2 and RE Outrage, Valkyria Chronicles 1 and 4, Assassins Creed Rebel Collection, Metro Redux, XCOM 2, Civilization VI, Saints Row 4, Tales of Vesperia, Trials Rising, Final Fantasy X/X-2, Final Fantasy XII, etc, to Indie titles (Cuphead, Ori Blind Forest and Ori Will of the Wisps, Hades, Bloodstained RotN, Bastion, Gnosia, Hollow Knight, Undertale, Stardew Valley, Shantae Seven Sirens, Steamworld Dig 2, Hyper Light Drifter, Unravel Two, Streets of Rage 4, Super Meat Boy, Thomas Was Alone, Braid, Transistor, Limbo and Inside, to Retro and Throwback Classics (Shiren the Wanderer, Romancing SaGa 2, 3, Scarlet Grace and Frontier, Panzer Dragoon Remake, PacMan Championship demake, Mega Man Legacy Collections 1/2, Mega Man X Collections 1/2, Mega Man Zero/ZX Collection and Mega Man 11, Doom 1, 2 and 64, Lumines Remastered, Grandia HD Collection, Dragon Quest 1, 2 and 3, Castlevania Collection, Samurai Showdown Collection, Fire Emblem, Final Fantasy 7, 8 and 9, Duke Nukem 3D, DMC 1, 2 and 3, Ghosts and Goblins Resurrection, Collection of Mana, etc).

The only games I felt weren’t best played on Switch were Witcher 3, Immortals Fenyx Rising, Doom and Doom Eternal and Wolfenstein 2 (we don’t talk about Outer Worlds, it’s just not good on Switch). And for these select games, I did buy them on Steam (except Immortals, still waiting on the Steam release there). But, I still bought them on Switch too because they’re absolutely amazing to have as handheld titles (and admittedly, I’ve put more time into the Switch version of all these titles, barring Wolfenstein 2). Especially Witcher 3 and Doom Eternal. And with Witcher 3 and Immortals Fenyx Rising having cross save with PC, it’s best of both worlds. So even the ones that are really pared back for the system, even they are so fun to play when you’re not at home that I still wanted to have them on the Switch. And Doom Eternal on a Switch Lite, playing at my desk at work? Hoo boy, lemme tell ya. No other game have I ever played on a handheld device that has given me the adrenaline rush that Doom Eternal provides on a Switch Lite with gyro.

But ya. Switch is preferable for 95% of the games which release on the system. Games of all kinds. The graphical downgrades for most of them are minimal, while the entertainment value gained from the hybrid advantage is immeasurable. The only type of game I feel doesn’t work well for Switch, is FPS when it doesn’t offer gyro. Thankfully, most of them do. But RPGs and strategy titles are a special kind of game for Switch. As is Monster Hunter. MH Rise is going to be one for the history books.

@Ralizah “ Sony's corporate Americanization was probably inevitable, but it still saddens me as a long-time fan.”

No offence but after PS3 era japan should never made any decisions again. Ever.

@kkslider5552000 “ If anything, this feels like Sony being kind of out of step with the times.

Nah i would say Sony is in line with the times
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.videogameschronicle.com/news...

Can i add storage to a switch eternally ?

for Resident Evil 0 for my Switch Lite, last night i had to change the game's controls to Option D which felt similar to the Gamecube

That...doesn't say anything like that. You could also say the Playstation line has a ton of fanboys and point to that same article as "evidence" of that.