Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

Didn't we have the same thing a week ago? It's getting unusually heated.

@JaxonH Don't worry too much about it. Just try out different stuff. Some character events only unlock when you're playing as one of the gnosia, for example. Eventually, an "event locator" function will be added that will allow you to roll set-ups that are more likely to yield unique story events.

Also worth a mention, since I initially overlooked it: the "how to play" section in the pause menu actually has an extensive in-game manual that'll help you understand some of the more arcane aspects of the game (like how to advance the story, or the way certain stats work together, etc.)

BTW, those joycons you mentioned: do you need to crack them open to make the buttons feel decent? I wouldn't mind better joycons that I could use wirelessly, but I'm not really comfortable with modding my own hardware.

Technology changes. There was a time when optical drives were too expensive for consoles or when having mass storage was something for the PC space. The 360 and PS3 launched HDDs around 40GB, the PS5 and XBox Series have TB of fast NAND.

And yes, the Vita launched with a premium OLED screen and at the time that was pretty high end. In 2021 it isn't. It just isn't. And nothing you say changes that indisputable fact

@Socar @JaxonH I'm staying out of this argument, so don't expect a response when you tear this apart, but fyi, Samsung officially announced their OLED panels are going to be used in gaming consoles.

Given only the Switch presently has a screen, that does seem to be a strong case.

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/03/samsung_to_aggressi...

Except to wait and see what Nintendo reveals? Have you by any chance heard of Quantum dot displays? You said on one way that you have not said that OLED will take over but here you're saying that OLED is taking over so I'm confused on what you mean here. Switch again, doesn't even support 4-5G let alone 6 and that has been around for decades.

And technically, the statement says gaming console segments so it won't mean that its oled screen for the Switch model at all. Again, I will say this one last time. Sources are not credible and are as of now speculation. Until its official, nothing is certain so I sugest we end this and move on. Doesn't matter who's wrong or right here seeing its about opinions being discussed.

@link3710 While I'm going to watch this from the sidelines and prepare some popcorn, I feel like the only handheld gaming console warranting an OLED screen is Switch at the moment. Unless Sony and Samsung are teaming up to make a super PS Vita 2.

Yes. Look, here's the thing. LCDs by their very nature will always be behind what OLED can do. You're talking about a display technology that has a backlight layer and a filter layer vs a display that's RGB lights. Black on OLED is black, on LCD it's not. As a general rule OLED is a better panel type than LCD, even fairly cheap OLEDs will demolish premium LCDs in things like colour reproduction and contrast.

The word you put into my mouth earlier was that I was saying "LCDs are obsolete". They aren't, they have a place in the market. What I said was at smaller screen sizes the cost gap between OLED and LCD is becoming trivially small. If you're a manufacturer? You're going to pick OLED now that the price has dropped to the extent that it has. Which is what Apple has done already. Nintendo would be stupid not to do the same. This is the reality, OLED is likely even without this rumour.

I have no idea what you mean here

I haven't said anything about the rumour, I'm not talking about the rumour. I'm talking about the technology

My point was more along these lines. In 2007 Sony released the first commercially available OLED screen. 11", 540p, $2500US ($3200US adjusted for inflation). For that price today you could by a 65" 4K OLED and enough left over for an iPhone which happens to have a 6.5" full HD OLED panel. OLED is increasingly not a premium screentype. This is true regardless of how much you dislike the current Switch Pro rumours.

I'll also add that in terms of predicting what Nintendo will do next hardware wise and what rumours are and aren't likely? I tend to think that I'm on the money more than most. And on that note I believe I was saying OLED for a Switch revision/successor before the Switch was even announced. I was also saying that the Wii U would use discs but the console after the Wii U would use cartridges back when the Wii U was still Project Cafe. So you know, I'm probably not the voice on this forum you want to be dismissing entirely when it comes to hardware predictions

Lets just agree that you're letting your emotions get in the way of your grasp of exponential curves and I'm just some kind of cold, analytical psycho who likes tech and occasionally lurks on toy fan forums

@TheJGG I'm pretty sure Sony have said they aren't planning on a successor to the Vita when they stopped making new Vitas.

Switch it is then @jump. I’m not keen on a Switch revision myself but as long as Nintendo solves what for me is the only tiny problem with the Switch, power, they’ve made their perfect console.

Saying you've no plans in 2018 does not mean you have no plans 2021.

@TheJGG Yeah, I think combining Samsung's official statement with WSJ claiming they have sources saying Nintendo's buying isnt exactly a giant leap lol.

Anyways, I'm convinced we'll see OLEDs from Nintendo in the next few years (probably less) now at least.

It could always end up being a 3DS situation where it's totally random which screen type you get though, and they just ship both OLED and LCD interchangeably... I definitely hope not. It'd be incredibly stupid but not entirely out of character for Nintendo as a company. Fuwaka probably wouldn't allow that though.

@link3710 Yeah, Furukawa’s not an idiot, he knows Nintendo’s gotta act. I’m excited to see what the idiots complaining about the Switch’s poor graphics say when you get to play Breath of the Wild in 4K.

@gcunit It doesn't but they stopped making Vitas in 2019 (actually thinking about it the Vita lasted a long while) so since they let their portable audience lapse with no new console it's safe to assume if Sony are to produce a new portable console it will be longer than a couple years due to how long development takes as a minimum let alone a change of attitude towards the format. I will happy to eat crow if they do release a new portable console this year though.

I don't think Sony would've pushed aside Japan in recent times if they were doing a Vita successor. The sole purpose of a Vita successor would to reclaim market share in Japan from Nintendo and all Sony's recent actions suggests they've accepted that they've lost Japan to Nintendo and are focusing on the US instead.

Sony largely abandoned the Vita a few years after it came out. They're done with portable consoles. Nintendo has that entire market to itself.

So we may not see at til next year at the earliest (though considering there's supposed to be multiple NLG teams making games now it could be this year even), but anyone have any theories on Next Level Games... Next game? We do know there's the bizarre wolf poster in Luigi's Mansion 3 that may have hinted at either an upcoming or cancelled title.

I do think it's safe to assume they didn't have another Luigi's Mansion in development in parallel with 3, but they have a tendency to rarely stick with any one IP anyways.

@link3710

NLG could do something relatively quick by just porting their Wii version of Punch-Out to Switch.

@Magician Could they? The political climate lately hasn't been great for that sort of game. And that aside, I'd expect them to farm any ports out to another company unless it was some sort of training project (a la XC:DE or Wind Waker HD)

@link3710

If a Switch port of Wii Punch-Out is too...insensitive, I imagine NLG would instead have been assigned to support MP4 development to help expedite its release.

Why did Sony get into portables in the first place?