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rallydefault

Hrm... I don't know. I do think it's possible Nintendo may stop with the old chip and have every future Switch made with the new one, regardless of a "pro" model, Lite, regular, etc.

We're really starting to hit a wall when it comes to technical limitations. I just read the Crash 4 tech analysis, and it shows how much of a struggle it's gonna be for most devs to get good results from the current Switch hardware for much longer.

We're always gonna see magic from Nintendo's first-party titles and certain third-party devs who decide to really put in the time to eke every last bit out of the hardware, but by and large maybe Nintendo is just gonna introduce the upgrade across the spectrum to keep things more uniform and accessible for devs in the last few years of the console. I'd imagine 99% of games made will still be playable on the original chip (majority of the indie stuff we see on the eShop, which frankly is a huge slice of what people are playing), but perhaps with increasingly significant sacrifices. Those of us with the old chips will just have to choose if we wanna upgrade or not, which is the choice we're gonna get with a Switch Pro anyways.

Just my current thought. I think the remainder of the year will be very interesting to see what other rumors pop up or if/when Nintendo starts officially saying stuff.

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Magician

Sounds like Dragon Ball Z Kakarot is making its way to Switch.

Meh.

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Giancarlothomaz

check out what time period Pokémon Legend Arceus, the prequel of Pokémon Diamond e Pearl could be situated.and @Magician Bandai Namco stated that was a mistake that Dragon Ball Z:Kakarot is coming to Switch, don't need to worry about that.

i like HD Rumble.

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JaxonH

@Giancarlothomaz
We’ve already talked about that the last several pages.

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JaxonH

This is a crucial video for anyone following the Switch revision news.

Nate the Hate invited John Linneman from Digital Foundry on to talk possibilities, and essentially the consensus is, the most likely outcome is a Switch XL using 7” OLED screen and a Realtek chip in the dock which would do traditional 4k upscaling, not DLSS. Linneman makes it pretty clear you can’t just bolt on Tensor cores or an extra chip for DLSS because it’s so integrated into the SoC process.

They theorize the Aula revision data mined which referenced the same X1 chip but with a different display is the “Switch XL” which is likely releasing this year (I know I had speculated it probably wouldn’t release this year but if it’s only a Switch XL, that makes a 2021 release far more likely). This “Switch XL” could still sport some increased clock speeds using Mariko and the lower power draw of the OLED screen, but nothing too significant, and... it’s not guaranteed. They think it’s more likely that it doesn’t sport any extra power or higher clocks. Perhaps if it does, the bump will be just enough to allow more games to run though, since so many games are right on the cusp of ports being possible, and Nate does claim he knows of at least one game being developed for a new revision that can’t run on the current model. But then again, that could be the Pro or Switch 2 or whatever, and the XL is basically just hey- new screen, 4k upscaling, same price, phase out the current model entirely.

The other new model is likely the next generation Switch, and is still a few years away, although they do speculate it could be another revision that will be branded as a higher tier model, such as the Pro name suggests. Which one it is, it’s hard to say, but it does seem clear that leaked info about both of these models got confused to the point people thought the more powerful model was the XL revision.

Assuming this is the case, it’s both a little disappointing (because we all want a huge jump forward), but perhaps also more realistic since a new chip architecture could present all kinds of compatibility issues. It still means we’d be getting a new revision, with OLED screen, maybe slightly more power, and 4k signal output via traditional upscaling (will at least look better than your TV upscaling), and that’s enough for me to be excited. Especially knowing there’s still the possibility of a Pro model the following year, or in the worst case scenario, a few years off with the next gen Switch.

TLDR
Switch XL- 7” OLED screen, extra Realtek chip in dock with HDMI 2.1 for traditional 4k upscaling, no extra power. Expect late 2021.

Switch Pro / Switch 2 is separate model, and could release anywhere between 2022 and 2025, depending on which it is. This is the revision that is likely upgrading to an Orin chip with DLSS and will roughly be on par with 8th gen consoles.

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rallydefault

@JaxonH
That's not disappointing at all. That's pretty much what I was thinking - the logical to thing to me has always been the dock. Get something going on there to give everything a enough of a nudge to get over the finish line for the next few years until the real leap in technology comes along with the Switch 2.

That is, of course, if this is what ends up happening. I hope Nintendo will say something in the summer, and I really do think we'll see whatever this is in the holiday season.

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Socar

@JaxonH Its still unrealistic to me. OLED isn't something that is in Nintendo's favor especially in this case. They have always preferred LCDs simply because it fits their architecture well enough and that its easier to make plastic LCDs than OLED.

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BruceCM

That sounds more likely, at least, @JaxonH ..... If the 2nd is a few years, that'd likely be Switch 2! Which would be bc with all the current games!

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electrolite77

Just got the 100th shine on Bowsers Fury. What fun. Absolutely loved it.

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Grumblevolcano

@JaxonH What about the rumour that Nvidia is stopping production of the current Switch chip? If that one is true wouldn't it be more likely that there's only 1 model and it's the 2nd one?

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Grumblevolcano

Magician

@JaxonH

I appreciate NtH and MVG's weekly discussions, very insightful information within the realm of the internet rumor mill. If the V3 proposes zero increases in game performance, then I feel I could skip it. With so many games beginning to struggle performance wise on the Mariko, it's the boost in performance a new SoC would provide that I'm really eager for.

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JaxonH

@Socar
I mean, the OLED isn’t up for debate- thats the one thing where the contract has been confirmed. Yes Nintendo has always use LCD. Why? Because it’s cheaper. But what if OLED was cheaper? Wouldn’t that fit Nintendo‘s behavior? Because the reporting is saying the OLED is cheaper due to excess supply. Did you notice that in the Bloomberg article? Linneman also discusses this in the video.

@Grumblevolcano
Not sure. Either that report is incorrect, or they are indeed stopping production and just moving to a another revision with a die shrink, like they did with Mariko v2. Maybe jumping down to 8nm. That would provide more efficiencies and perhaps a small boost in power.

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JaxonH

@Magician
Ya, I can appreciate that. I think we’re all looking for that boost in performance, right? Without it I think a lot of people would be OK skipping it. Of course I gotta get one, even if just for the OLED. But maybe it will come with a little bit of a boost still, who knows. As grumble just mentioned, if they really are stopping production of the chips maybe they’re just doing another die shrink like they did before, and since they already took care of battery life maybe this time they put it towards performance. Maybe it’s nothing too significant but perhaps it ironed out some frame rates and keep things running at 720p handheld more often. That’d be cool.

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They pierced My hands and feet
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He was pierced for our transgressions

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Socar

@JaxonH That is completely bogus. OLED is far more expensive to manufacture than it is for LCD. There are no what-if scenarios that would make OLED manufacturing cheaper.

OLED is still too expensive no matter how you put it. And there are too many pros for LCD than there is for OLED. Especially considering that POLEDs aren't even that used commonly(As you can tell, the Switch screen is made out of plastic). Meaning that it won't work for Nintendo's favor at all as the PS Vita demonstrated.

There's also the problem that OLED can cause burn in display which LCD's don't do. Not to mention that OLEDs don't have backlight for brightness unlike LCD and even with the color contrast, LCD isn't really that bad compared to OLED. OLED technology is simply not needed. What the source is saying is simply stating things that Nintendo is never going to do because if they were considering OLED, they would have done so for the Switch instead of going for plastic LCD screen.

There is no incentive to move over OLED unless the technology in LCD is not powerful enough than OLED AND that OLED becomes more improved. Nintendo has been stuck with LCD for years and its unlikely that they would transition over OLED anytime soon. Hence why these speculations are just simple bogus.

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JaxonH

@Socar
You’re not listening.

It’s not “speculation”. It’s reported, confirmed fact. Nintendo has signed a contract with Samsung for OLED screens. That’s a fact- that’s not my opinion. That’s not speculation. It’s happening, whether you want to believe it or not.

There are plenty of reasons for it (excess supply = low cost / great deal + consumers feel they’re getting a superior product- win win). If you’re just going to ignore those facts and do zero investigation for yourself and just repeat your ignorance then I’m not interested in having a discussion with you.

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They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions

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Socar

@JaxonH Plenty of news that gets "Reported" are also "speculations" Unless its official, it is what it is which is speculation. There were reports of Nintendo working with Sharp but that never came to fruition and remained silent. Are you seriously thinking that Nintendo would actually fall for going into OLED even if Samsung is to manufacture the screens?

There is no confirmation in this and all it really is is just speculation. Just like how those Pro rumors have been for the past four years. Its going to be bogus unless its close to something what Nintendo would actually do.

In what manner has Nintendo actually, made hardware that was "superior" to its competition? Nintendo for its longest history has never made better hardware unless there is a benefit for it. And for the "Pro" here, there is no real benefit for both Nintendo and the consumers because

1. Nintendo would have to invest in expensive materials to produce not just OLED screens but also the new chipset which as Nintendo has just stated so many times, they are never really into the horsepower kind unless their innovation requires it(as in the case for the Switch, it had to be on par with phones to play games on the go and on station).

2. Nintendo will need to price the Pro that would be reasonable. They can't price it around 500-600$ and 450$ would be too much compared to the Switch which 300$ is already getting flak.

3. Repairing costs would be more for both Nintendo and for consumers due to the materials used.

There is nothing in this that benefits them both. Yes the pro will come out sooner than later but to have OLED with the advanced chipset is overstating how Nintendo develops hardware.

The way I see it, the Pro is probably going to have longer battery life and perhaps better processing power that is at best going to help load things faster or have smoother FPS while keeping base Switch relevant. I don't see Nintendo doing this way unless it is official and reported isn't official.

You can ignore all you want but the reality is that regardless of what you say here, its still just speculation, and nothing has been confirmed officially.

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BruceCM

Nintendo wouldn't be making the screens themselves, @Socar ....? They also don't make the chips!

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JaxonH

@Socar
Look man.

You believe whatever you want. It’s not my job to convince you of anything. If you want to believe the moon is made of cheese and goblins live in the core of the earth, then you do you.

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You see that? Cheaper cost.

Untitled

You see that? That’s the guy who told us about Switch Lite and Mariko. This isn’t frothful speculation from anonymous 4chan post. This is a business contract, the details of which have been confirmed. You believe what you want. You will be proven wrong in due time.

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They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions

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