Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@JaxonH Plenty of news that gets "Reported" are also "speculations" Unless its official, it is what it is which is speculation. There were reports of Nintendo working with Sharp but that never came to fruition and remained silent. Are you seriously thinking that Nintendo would actually fall for going into OLED even if Samsung is to manufacture the screens?

There is no confirmation in this and all it really is is just speculation. Just like how those Pro rumors have been for the past four years. Its going to be bogus unless its close to something what Nintendo would actually do.

In what manner has Nintendo actually, made hardware that was "superior" to its competition? Nintendo for its longest history has never made better hardware unless there is a benefit for it. And for the "Pro" here, there is no real benefit for both Nintendo and the consumers because

1. Nintendo would have to invest in expensive materials to produce not just OLED screens but also the new chipset which as Nintendo has just stated so many times, they are never really into the horsepower kind unless their innovation requires it(as in the case for the Switch, it had to be on par with phones to play games on the go and on station).

2. Nintendo will need to price the Pro that would be reasonable. They can't price it around 500-600$ and 450$ would be too much compared to the Switch which 300$ is already getting flak.

3. Repairing costs would be more for both Nintendo and for consumers due to the materials used.

There is nothing in this that benefits them both. Yes the pro will come out sooner than later but to have OLED with the advanced chipset is overstating how Nintendo develops hardware.

The way I see it, the Pro is probably going to have longer battery life and perhaps better processing power that is at best going to help load things faster or have smoother FPS while keeping base Switch relevant. I don't see Nintendo doing this way unless it is official and reported isn't official.

You can ignore all you want but the reality is that regardless of what you say here, its still just speculation, and nothing has been confirmed officially.

Nintendo wouldn't be making the screens themselves, @Socar ....? They also don't make the chips!

@Socar
Look man.

You believe whatever you want. It’s not my job to convince you of anything. If you want to believe the moon is made of cheese and goblins live in the core of the earth, then you do you.

You see that? Cheaper cost.

You see that? That’s the guy who told us about Switch Lite and Mariko. This isn’t frothful speculation from anonymous 4chan post. This is a business contract, the details of which have been confirmed. You believe what you want. You will be proven wrong in due time.

@JaxonH Fine by me mate. Just don't get disappointed that you fell for a speculation and that the pro isn't what the report stated it was to be.

@BruceCM Right..I said invest which means someone else does it, and someone else has to charge Nintendo for the materials which Nintendo still has to pay out of their pockets...?

@Socar
The report says nothing about a “Pro”. So Idk what you’re even talking about.

Report only mentions an OLED screen and 4k signal output. That’s it. That’s not necessarily a “pro” in the way most think of the term- it’s a revision model. It’s likely the model many have referred to as a “pro”, but the crux of the matter is that it’s a new revision with OLED and 4k. Call it a Pro, call it an XL, call it whatever you want. But a revision is on the way.

I’m not “falling” for any speculation. I believe the facts, which are that a business contract for OLED has been signed with Samsung. That’s not speculation. That’s confirmed. That’s fact. That’s beyond dispute. There is no “speculation” about that. It’s happening.

I do believe a significantly more powerful Switch is coming, in addition to the new revision, but that’s my own personal belief based on the evidence I’ve seen. If things change then I’ll modify my beliefs. But that doesn’t change the fact a new Switch revision is coming, it will have 7” OLED and it will output 4k signal. Anything beyond that is speculation (which there’s nothing wrong with- it’s good to speculate based on evidence).

@Wavey84
Yea, I think a "mini" console (though in this case more like an original-sized) is highly likely. A totally faithful reproduction of the GameBoy or one of the many variants would sell like hot cakes. Make it able to connect to the internet to download games and - boom - they'll print money like crazy.

I'm undecided if Gameboy Mini is happening or not. It's been a while since the last Nintendo mini console, and it stands out that both of them were made when Nintendo's future in console gaming was fairly uncertain. But obviously its the next one they would do, since its the most popular old system they could bring back.

Maybe Nintendo don't think there's a need for any more consoles to be added to the online service. They barely updated the NES and SNES libraries as is. They could just be looking at the figures for how many are signed up and decided there is no longer a need to try and attract people to the service due to the sheer amount of games that require it to use the online functions.

I'd prefer the mini over nso. I lost my og Gameboy 😪

I could see Nintendo doing a GB Mini, but not the one that everyone wants. Not one with 20-30 games preloaded, but something more like the Mario G&W that came out with 2-3 games themed to a specific series.

For example a Zelda themed one with Link's Awakening + OoS +OoA preloaded.

Why are you in such a state of denial over this? I honestly don’t understand why you’re so vehemently arguing against this being fact. It’s as if you want an inferior product in your hands for four more years.

It’s makes no sense. At all. But I digress, you’ll see the facts soon enough.

Historically yes but in terms of materials and potential cost when mature OLED will eventually be cheaper. The higher cost of OLED has been mostly because it's a significantly less mature technology than LCD. Less mature -> More Defects -> Higher cost. Ten years ago you'd pay 20x more for an OLED TV vs an LCD one, these days it's more like 2x.

However because of the nature of creating panels, smaller panels are less impacted by the defect rate. When there's single a defect on a wafer you're cutting into 55" panels? You lose a 55" panel. A single defect in a wafer you're cutting into 6" panels and you only lose one 6" panel. So in practice smaller panels get cheaper quicker than larger panels. It's why OLED is the panel type on pretty much any phone that's not a budget model and why it's the only panel type for smartwatches. The Switch screen is small so the cost gap between OLED and LCD would be trivial at this stage.

If you don't believe that OLED is getting to the point where it's almost the same cost as LCD in these sizes consider this. You can buy a Samsung phone outright that has a 6.4" 1080p OLED panel, 128GB of internal storage, 4GB RAM, 5000mAh battery and all the usual stuffs you get with phones for the same price as the Switch. The Switch has a 6.2" 720p LCD, 32GB of storage, 4GB RAM and a 4300mAh battery.

I think it's fair to say there's plenty of room for a slightly larger 720p OLED panel at the price Nintendo is charging for the Switch. They could 4x the internal storage, go OLED, double the RAM, move to a more modern SoC and still sell it at a profit.

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@JaxonH Whether this is pro or not doesn't matter to me and whether the guy who confirmed that the V2 had Mariko doesn't matter either since its not always accurate news. The point is that you're stating facts which are still speculation unless the big N spits it out.

@Vargbrand Right...have been wrong for four years the Switch has been released and those terrible rumors that keep spreading over and over again with no proof. Also, LCDs aren't really that outdated either.

@skywake First of all, no there are still a ton of phones that have LCDs. Heck, even Apple still has lots of their products that are LCD until the iPhone 12 pro..i think. Samsung is the leading market over the phone business so of course they'd have OLED. But there are only a handful of phone brands that can do OLED and can manufacture phones with OLED because of them being..well big. Xaomi sill uses LCD screens and same for Apple.

The technology for LCD is just improving on the same level as OLED. Even if Nintendo were to somehow follow Sony's attempt with the Vita, the OLED model would most likely not do well and Nintendo would replace it with the LCD model instead. If you just observe the color of an IPS LCD and that of OLED, there is little difference which means that there is nothing wrong if Nintendo sticks with LCDs for as long as they can.

But look, time will only tell whether Nintendo actually does it or not because this is just another one of the rumors that even when reported are still not official. I'm fine if Nintendo brings up OLED but it's being unrealistic especially since LCD has been something Nintendo has been using for years even when OLED started getting better. So until LCDs stop getting better, there is little reason or motive for Nintendo going to the "powerful" route.

The iPhone X was the first generation that had OLED but they skipped it for the cheapest SKUs. The same for the 11 series. The entire iPhone 12 lineup is OLED. As I said, most phones that aren't budget phones or old stock are OLED these days. It used to be a premium feature, it's not anymore. In a couple of years it'll be pretty much entirely OLED in the Phone market

This is BS. Period.

I think Nintendo's stuck with only NES and SNES because of NSO's price. If/When Nintendo adds another console it'll probably come with either a price hike or a premium tier. So like a few possible outcomes:

1. Nintendo becomes inspired by Microsoft's Xbox Live Gold price hike announcement in January (which got reverted) and NSO price increases to $60 a year. Comes with NES, SNES, GBA and gives you access to the ability to buy N64 to Wii games and localizations like the FE1 one VC style (excludes $60 remasters for 1 game like XCDE and Skyward Sword HD). 3D All Stars and FE1 localization becomes exclusive to this.

2. N64 to Wii games VC style ends up being in a separate premium NSO tier. If you only care about existing NSO features then you buy the base NSO tier subscription.

3. Nintendo announces their answer to Game Pass and this ends up helping more niche franchises like Metroid.

@Grumblevolcano The problem with these consoles is that there’s only a small number of games they can add to the libraries thanks in part due to publishers seeing value to selling them separately. I think people keep expecting way too much then become disappointed when games no ones ever heard of get added. Also I’m kinda wondering if there’ll be any more added since it’s been way over a year since SNES was launched and there’s been nothing leaked from data miners suggesting new systems are on the horizon.

That doesn't mean that LCD remains obsolete however way you want to slice it. Xaomi uses LCD, and many many other brands use IPS displays especially monitors. Just recently we have phones like the Poco X2, Realme 6 Pro and many many others.

I don't want to waste time arguing about this because unless Nintendo officially states it, its just speculation as far as it can go.

And yes the IPS LCD screens are nearly on par with that of OLED especially the fact that you get sharper pictures which means getting higher resolutions in smaller devices like that of the Switch.

Yea that's exactly what I think, but I do think it would be hugely popular, even if only in initial sales. Nostalgia has been "in" for the last few years, and a GameBoy console would be in a league of its own compared to the other retro mini consoles that have been released. The GameBoy is, obviously, portable by its very nature and can be thrown into bags and purses and pockets (certain models) right alongside smart phones.

Honestly, and this is dreaming too big I realize, I could see it almost getting a new life alongside the Switch and Switch2. Nintendo's always been awesome at handheld gaming, and I would wager a lot of the indie stuff we're seeing these days could be made to run on a rejiggered GameBoy console. Stardew Valley in your pocket? That would be so cool. Certain modern games could totally be made to work on it alongside the massive retro catalog. Nintendo could even do some new games for it or re-configure some DS/3DS games to it to not require the second screen. The NSMB games, for instance.

@Socar
I never said LCD was obsolete, I recently spent $500AU on a 27" 1440p IPS monitor, you don't need to lecture me on how good LCDs can be. What I said was OLED panels have become cheaper to the point they are viable options for non-premium products. Particularly in smaller screen sizes. There's no argument to be had, you're just objectively wrong on that point.

Also this insistence by you that OLED and LCD are "on par" technologies is BS. Sure LCDs can have a higher peak brightness and OLED does have (although not as significant these days) burn in issues. But other than those two things OLED wins every day. They have deeper blacks which means higher contrast and better colour reproduction. They're also more power efficient which kinda matters for mobile devices.

No question about it, if Nintendo is revising the Switch OLED is going to be on the cards. It's the easiest prediction to make tech trends wise outside of maybe more internal storage. It just also happens to be rumoured from super reliable sources.

You'd have to be pretty delusional to think OLED was off the table