@rallydefault
No? Not snarky at all. It was a dead serious post. Not sure why you'd think I'm being snarky. I'm breaking down the actuality of the situation.
Since as I said, it's a multivariable equation where things like "power" are just one variable. There are many others.
Just because people dont analyze it as such doesn't mean it doesn't accurately describe what's really happening. And that IS what's happening. Things like this get modeled in economics all the time. People don't have to understand it, but it is what's happening.
Of course many people will see other systems as their logical choice. Obviously. But there's a difference between THEIR logical choice and THE logical choice. There is no "THE" logical choice.
Bottom line being, for many people, the value brought to the table by hybrid advantage far exceeds the value brought to the table by incremental power only. So any attempt to describe other systems as the "default logical choice" is erroneous at best. There is no default logical choice. Hybrid advantage is just as viable and compelling as more power. Some will choose one. Some will choose the other. But there is no objective "better" or objective "logical choice".
There is only personal preference. And I will fight against the culture of power being the be all end all determining factor as to what is "objectively better". I'm tired of hearing Youtubers review Switch games, then spend half the review talking about how it doesn't measure up graphically and then end with, "it's a great way to play if you don't have better options". Wait, what? "Better options"? There are no "better options". People don't play Switch because they're poor, pitiful gamers who can't afford "better options", they play Switch because for them, it IS the "better option".
@JaxonH
I just disagree. I think there are logical choices when it comes to gaming: the places that have your friends and have the games you want. Anything else would be illogical, technically.
@Magician
No joke, Origami King is one of my favorite games of all time. I'm doing another playthrough right now, actually. I can see this being a game I replay every few years just like Ocarina.
You're on these forums because you appreciate Nintendo and their franchises. Right? Then you need to come to terms with the fact that Nintendo is going to ride their niche as a provider of portable gaming experiences, first and foremost, for the foreseeable future.
Switch Physical Collection - 1,555 games (as of March 31st, 2026)
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I agree 100%. That would be logical... if that's what a person values most, but not objectively logical for everyone as some transcendental truth
Again, it comes down to preference and values. If a person values playing with their friends most, then for them and them only, that is their personal logical choice. Not everyone's logical choice. Others may not give two whiffs about playing with their friends, and yet still others may care, but they care about other things more.
We are not in disagreement here. I'm simply delineating the difference between claims that certain platforms are objectively superior regardless of your preferences, which is absolute hogwash horse manure fanboy console warrior nonsense. Platform A is not objectively a better choice just because it's more powerful. It may be subjectively a better choice for you based on your personal values but that is all it is.
PS/Xbox/PC is absolutely, 100% not a more logical choice than Switch. There is only preference. IF you value one thing, you may choose PS/Xbox/PC. And yet IF you value other things, you may choose Switch. But power doesn't automatically carry more objective weight than the hybrid advantage.
But what I was saying before with regards to power losing its effect as a system becomes more powerful, it's hard to explain mathematically if someone isn't familiar. A picture is worth a thousand words.
@JaxonH
I never said that liking portability wasn't also logical. I'm just saying that liking games and having friends on the system are never not logical.
@rallydefault Well, also take into account that for anyone who doesn't play online games (such as myself 99% of the time) having friends on the ecosystem is pointless. It just so happens that most of my friends have Switches right now, but I play with them (non-locally) maybe once a year at most?
So count me as a person who doesn't care about friends on the ecosystem.
Edit: more generally, anyone who mostly values single player games over multiplayer is more likely to also care about things like portability over library size.
@rallydefault
Yes, they are logical things to like if they happen to be things you personally value. As link3710 pointed out, not everyone values those particular things.
So again, it comes down to things people value. That includes but is not limited to: friends, power, games (both exclusive and multiplat), gyro, ease of use, portability, tabletop ability, tv play, controller comfort, rumble effect, storage, price, online cost vs benefits, OS speed, etc.
These are all logical candidates for being valued. But everyone is different and everyone will place a different weight of importance to each specific factor. Obviously people will choose what's logical for themselves. That's how human reasoning tends to work. We choose what makes the most sense to us. But what makes the most sense to us will not make the most sense to everyone else.
It comes down to what a person values most. And no two people are alike. And my point was and continues to be, that none of those candidate factors are inherently superior over the others. It all comes down to what each individual values the most personally.
@Anti-Matter
Diminishing returns of "additional fun added to the experience" as power increases, to visually demonstrate why a more powerful Switch makes a lot more sense than a PS4 Pro or Xbox One X ever did.
@link3710@JaxonH
Ok, so now we live in a world where people buy game consoles that don't have games they like.
You guys are a real piece of work sometimes lol
People buy game consoles that have the games they want to play. It's a logical decision. PS/Xbox have way more games than the Switch. Chances are, for most people, PS/Xbox would make more logical sense for a primary gaming console purchase. Buying something that plays the games you like is not just a "candidate" or preference or whatever; it's the absolute baseline factor in buying something as a consumer.
People buy game consoles that have the games they want to play. It's a logical decision.
Of course they do. But it's not the only factor. One system may have 11 games they want to play, while another system has 8, BUT, those 8 can be played portably. Or with gyro. So even then, "having the most games" isn't automatically the best choice. It's not automatically the "logical choice". It's one factor assigned a weight and compared with other factors. Obviously a system needs at least ONE game a person wants, but that's kind of a given.
PS/Xbox have way more games than the Switch. Chances are, for most people, PS/Xbox would make more logical sense for a primary gaming console purchase.
Switch sales say otherwise. And that's precisely because just having "more games" doesn't really mean much. As long as a system has enough games to satisfy, having "more" isn't really bringing much more to the table. Furthermore, not all games are equal. System B could have 2,000 games, but system A has 3 games better than any of those 2,000, and playing those 3 games is worth more to someone than 2,000 games they'd enjoy half as much. That's not an argument that holds water.
What actually matters is how many games you want to play, how badly you want to play each one of them, the benefits of playing them on a particular system, etc. It's so much deeper than just counting a numerical sum total.
Buying something that plays the games you like is not just a "candidate" or preference or whatever; it's the absolute baseline factor in buying something as a consumer.
It's a baseline factor but not the only factor. As explained above.
There is no default "better system" or "one size fits all logical choice". There is only preference. PS5/X1 could have twice as many games with better graphics, yet those games can only be enjoyed with 33% of the versatility, and without gyro. On top of which, different games appeal to people differently. Many feel the best games in the industry are Nintendo exclusives. And for those people, they're going to weigh the Switch as more valuable.
I never thought I'd see the day saying "the best console depends on what you value as an individual" would be so vehemently disputed by someone.
Diminishing returns of "additional fun added to the experience" as power increases, to visually demonstrate why a more powerful Switch makes a lot more sense than a PS4 Pro or Xbox One X ever did.
Have you taken I to account the amount of people that only use the switch as a secondary console so extra power isn't an issue - I would imagine most gamers have multiple systems nowadays so an increased (although still under) powered switch isn't that big an issue.
With games launching on the system like MHrise and running/looking amazing why do we need a portable PS4
@Mr-Fuggles777
Of course there's some people like that. But just because there's some people like that doesn't mean they're to ignore the tens of millions of people who aren't like that.
We don't "need" anything other than food, clothing and shelter. Video games has never been about "need".
We don't "need" a Nintendo Switch at all. Or a PS, or Xbox. Or PC. We don't even need video games in general. Its never been about "needing", it's about wanting. Tens of millions of people want a more powerful Switch. Guarantee almost all developers want a more powerful Switch too.
What you personally want or need is irrelevant. If you want to keep playing the current Switch, then keep playing the current Switch. But this train is moving forward, and you can't stop it. Nintendo WILL release a more powerful Switch, whether you think they "need" it or not. And people will gobble it up, because that's exactly what tons of people want.
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