Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@GameOtaku I agree with you, but like Ralizah said above, so far, "almost nobody is willing to use the 32 GB card", and this is just the 32 GB card. I find that rather surprising 4 years after the launch of the Switch. I know Nintendo says/thinks the prices will come down, but so far there is a clear trend of 32 GB game cards scaring game companies off like the plague. Maybe the pandemic has halted larger cards.

Witcher 3 used a 32 GB card. I can't recall what else, but I'm pretty sure it's only like 2-3 games so far.

@WoomyNNYes
Considering the pandemic and all that may be slowing down larger releases. So far there’s not very many games that actually need that amount of storage. For compilations I don’t know why instead of forcing you to download partials they could instead have multiple smaller capacity carts in a box.

Romance of the Three Kingdoms XIV is out on Switch, finally. Any of you Civilization VI fans out there, or history buffs, this game will be right up your alley.

There’s actually an English Asian physical version on Play-Asia as well. Had to order that too. I’ve been wanting this series on Switch for years now. Massively disappointed when I saw Nobanuga’s Ambition and Romance of the Three Kingdoms XIII announced for Switch, but never made it out of Japan.

@JaxonH It's a good thing the physical version exists because the eShop prices are pretty crazy. Even still it's a bit much for me to take a chance on when I'm really not sure if I'd get into it or not, especially after taking a glance at its PC reviews.

Well my new Switch is arriving today. Can't wait to take my 1TB SD Card out of my current one, pop it into the new one, reformat it and then redownload 649GB of games 😭

The latest Switch drought is finally over, 3D World launching today begins the rather packed lineup that ends with MH Rise (sure there's New Pokemon Snap on April 30th but that's over a month after MH Rise).

@Grumblevolcano Going a month (in Jan, the traditional quiet time for new games) without a Ninty published game is a bit melodramatic for it to be a drought. Ninty released a game in Dec, before that another in Nov, a couple in Oct and another Sep. Admittingly some are games I wouldn't consider to buy but that's more on me than a lack of options.

Finally got my order for the LRG release of Samurai Shodown Collection. I'm mildly disappointed. As per usual LRG's collector editions are mediocre in terms of the quality of the packaging and the swag inside. That "Made in China" sticker on the bottom of the classic Neo Geo shockbox reeks of minimum effort for maximum profit. Ugh, I should've opted for the Pix N'Love version, but that's sold out now.

Feels bad.

@WoomyNNYes

Japanese and Southeast Asian copies of Final Fantasy X/X-2. Both games are on the cartridge, where as the NA and EU versions only have FF X. As well as the Japanese exclusive release of Dragon Quest Heroes I & II double pack.

@GameOtaku that's a good idea, but I think disc's are so cheap & common, that the card's cost seems absurd to game companies. Or there's a real production inconvenience with cards we aren't seeing. Otherwise, I'm not sure why everyone seems so averse to the cards. Unless they hate selling their media in a durable cartridge form.

Just for 3D world!!!

Good to know about the physical version. I don’t have the space otherwise. I want Nobunaga’s Ambition but the font is too small for me to comfortably deal with in Japanese ( I said that about the english ps4 version too) so I am stuck with the PS4 version (which I think is in storage) for now.

In my mind, that means it's just not exclusive lol Not everyone has a PC, but everyone has a phone. It's just weird to me that Square Enix is like... hrm... yea, we'll put Octopath on PC, but NO WAY will we let it hit another console. That's just a bridge too far.

It also seems weird to me if that's how the exclusivity deal was inked with Nintendo. Octopath will be "exclusive" to the Switch but also on PC/mobile, so pretty much every human being who doesn't own a Switch can still get it somewhere else? I hope Nintendo didn't pay much for that kind of exclusivity lol

@Rambler That's not what I need to do.

I'm gonna do a a system transfer, but I only have one 1TB MicroSD Card, which needs to come with me.

Putting it in my new Switch will format it, requiring me to redownload all the games again. I'm just saying it's gonna take a while 😅

@rallydefault
Not sure if I fully agree. You make a reasonable case, but I think the fact so many companies are willing to let their games go to PC but not other consoles, is evidence worth considering. If what you’re saying is true then you would expect to see games go to all consoles, not just PC. but that isn’t what we observe. What we observe is consistent with PC not having nearly as much overlap with the console market.

Even if everyone has a phone, it’s not viewed as a legitimate gaming platform by most console gamers (or PC gamers, for that matter).

Basically, you have the console/handheld market- devices built ground up dedicated to gaming as the primary function. And then you have alternative markets, such as PC, mobile and cloud. A game can be ported to an alternative market and technically, you’re correct, the game is not a full exclusive anymore. But it is still console exclusive, and that matters because of the massive chunk of gamers who only play on consoles. It doesn’t mean everyone does. If a game goes to PC, for example, there’s a lot of additional people who will be able to play it, but since that market has much less overlap with the console market than individual consoles do amongst themselves, it doesn’t have a significant impact on the console version’s appeal.

This is less true for Xbox and PS games that go to PC, because there seems to be more overlap between the Switch and PC market, so when an Xbox or PS game goes to PC there is probably a larger loss of sales as a result than if, for example, a Switch game goes to PC. But even then, there’s still a large majority of console gamers that don’t have any interest playing games outside the console ecosystem. They only want to play on devices built for gaming and convenience.

So the idea that a game going to PC means console exclusivity has no value... I just don’t agree with that. It will have less value, for sure. As an estimate for example’s sake, let’s say PS/Xbox games lose 30% value going to PC, and Switch games lose 15%. That’s still 70-85% value retained as a console exclusive.

@JaxonH
Only Nintendo has access to what they believe is their market overlap between Switch/PC/Mobile. Maybe it's relatively small, 15% or so like you said - none of us here can possibly know that number or even accurately guess at it. My hunch (and only a hunch) is that the Switch, a machine that appeals to casual gamers, probably has a pretty good overlap with the mobile market, another casual-friendly piece of hardware. Just as an anecdote, look at the Stardew Valley thread and people talking about preferring to play it on their tablet over their Switch.

My point is just that a game that appears on other easily accessible hardware is not exclusive, period. You can clutch to terms like "console exclusive" if that makes you feel better, that's fine. I just hope these "exclusivity" deals for games that also get on PC and mobile cost Sony/Nintendo/MS a lot less than actually true exclusivity deals.

@rallydefault
I don’t think anyone claims games appearing on other hardware is full exclusive. It’s not clutching to a term to say console exclusive, and it doesn’t make me feel any kind of way. It’s just a descriptor which accurately communicates an idea, that idea being that the game is only available on one specific console. And being console exclusive has value, because of the overwhelming number of people who only play games on dedicated consoles.

Yes, you’re going to find people who play on their tablets and phones- those people do exist, but you’d actually need to research the percentage, because I suspect the overlap is not nearly as much as you think, and the overlap that is present doesn’t necessarily mean people want to play the same games on mobile, unless they want a portable version and have no better option available, like a Switch version (point being, the mobile version becomes irrelevant once a better option presents itself, so it’s not “competition”). So, if they play a game designed for dedicated gaming hardware, and they have that option, that’s where they’re going to play it.. Civilization VI is a perfect example. It came to mobile and there’s a small collective of people that play it, but that’s all it is. A small collective, almost all of whom don’t own a Switch. Or consider Monster Hunter Stories, which released as MH Riders on iOS. You see people bring that up as an option all the time in the MH subreddit, and the responses are always overwhelmingly, “don’t care”.

And I imagine console exclusivity deals do cost less. Why wouldn’t they. But I can’t imagine they cost considerably less, given the fact being console exclusive still has a lot of value.

@Grumblevolcano 2021 is quite pacted in the first half of the year, it remind me of septembre of 2019, it look like 2021 can surpass 2017/2019, considering Legend of Zelda 35th anniversary, Metroid 35th anniversary, Pokémon 25th anniversary, Donkey Kong 40th anniversary(WOW that a lot of anniversaries for Nintendo to celebrate this year).

@Rambler It's annoying but also an anti piracy measure out in place after the 3DS so I get why it's the way it is.

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