Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@JaxonH Good excuse to do it.

Mines an actual new issue though. I can hear the fan when this happens over my TV right next to the console 🤣. That ain't right.

Upon undocking the Switch seems a lot warmer than it should be, or ever has been. Especially on the side where the heatsink is.

Personally I think it's an issue with the thermal paste connection the chip to it's shield, then to the heatsink and then then fan.

Wouldn't surprise me after thousands of hours of use, travel in a bag up and down the UK, being left in a work locker 🤣🤣🤣

And on a serious note I am worried about my Switch potentially hitting the "I'm turning off it's too hot" stage. The fan itself seems to run fine otherwise, no unusual sounds except for when this flares up.

I can't stress though, this is loud, like something isn't working right loud.

But it is weird this hasn't happened with any downloaded games yet.

Also of note, my Switch does now have a gap between the back casing and the front casing along the top that I can press on to close or make wider. Also seems like the back with logo is very movable if I press down on it, I can see it bend back into place.

Maybe after 4 years of good old fashioned use it's finally showing its age 🥺

@Haruki_NLI

Isn't shooting compressed air INTO the console just going to move the dust around inside it. I assume ideally you need to open it up and clear the dust outwards instead?
My PC gets like that about once a year. Just starts making loads of noise. I just open it up and spray compressed air around the heatsink and that usually fixes it for about a year.

@Ralizah My predictions for Persona 25th anniversary:

• Persona 5 Royal for PC
• Persona 4 Golden for PS4
• Persona 3 FES HD for PS4 and PC
• Persona 6 announced for PS5 and PC

And if it turns out that Microsoft bought SEGA then swap PS4 for XB1 and PS5 for Series X|S.

@Grumblevolcano Company buy out rules say the new parent company can't dictate what their new subsidary will do until they buy them so if Microsoft were to buy Sega/Atlus then they would have to habe been planning Xbox releases now due to how long development/porting takes rather than flip flopping on release platforms.

@Dezzy I pumped compressed air through the dock, not the console itself. Took the console out first obviously.

@Haruki_NLI
You’re probably onto something, but I’m not sure there’s anything that can be done about it.

Might just be time to get a new one. Strip the joycon off, keep the dock, the charger, the grip, etc, and you’ll at least have extra components for your new model.

@JaxonH I'm looking to pick up one of the improved and cooler models next month when I get paid.

Problem is being in the UK....it's like gold dust. Hell any gaming system is it seems.

@Grumblevolcano Adding onto 25th Anniversary predictions:

• I highly doubt P3 and P4G will be coming to PS4. If they were that forward thinking the Golden remaster would've been multiplatform, but Steam definitely considering P4G's success. P3 on Steam will probably just be a straight conversion of FES if it's done in house at Atlus though compared to just outsourcing it for a remaster like what's happening with Nocturne, and it'll probably come out around the same timeframe as Persona 4 Golden did last year
• Persona 5 Royal for PC will be announced this year but won't release until sometime in 2022. I can see them unveiling it at some Persona concert event where they'll also likely announce a bunch of other Persona games like spinoffs, but that ain't happening until after Shin Megami Tensei V launches on Switch.
• Persona 6 on PS4/PS5/PC. With how much Sony has been championing Persona as their JRPG golden goose exclusive lately in addition to aggressively pursuing timed exclusivity on high profile stuff for the PS5 like Deathloop, GhostWire Tokyo and two Square Enix games, I can absolutely see them moneyhatting Persona 6 as well, in addition to partially funding it so it can be released worldwide simultaneously like what's happening with SMTV, since I doubt they're making that happen without some of that Nintendo money. As a result though it'll also be a permanent PlayStation exclusive on consoles much like the entire mainline series.

It'll also come to PS4 alongside PS5 given Atlus has a history behind supporting older generations of hardware in light of new consoles, as evidenced by Persona 3 FES and Persona 4 on the PS2 and Persona 5 on the PS3.

• Persona 5 Arena. The P5U.jp domain has been out in the wild for a while and while the Red Team at Arc System Works have been busy with Guilty Gear Strive and post-launch DBFZ support, the Blue team have only been working on stuff like BlazBlue Cross Tag and Granblue Versus with nothing else in development, so I can see them announcing Persona 5 Arena as the last big console Persona 5 spinoff before P6 is released. Probably coming to PS4, PS5, Switch and Steam.

Platinum Games explain why he is so quiet about Bayonetta 3.

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/02/platinum_seems_to_h...

@TheFrenchiestFry I think the PC only release of P4G was testing the PC market along with whether PS owners will double dip if released later on PS4. 3rd parties already have Switch owners figured out in that regard.

As for not announcing stuff until after SMTV, I could see Atlus just leave all the promotion of SMTV to Nintendo while Atlus focuses on Persona promotion.

So here it is. It happened again this time playing a download of Clubhouse Games.

Let it get a bit louder this time before undocking. Only stopped once I wiggled it around and pressed the back but it can also come back at random in handheld.

If it's a loose fan it's really finicky about it.

How would Atlus know if people have double dipped?

I'm also not convinced a significant portion of people buy any game on PS4 after owning it on PC, unless the PS4 release comes with additional features.

Yeah people double dip on Switch stuff likely because of the added versatility of the Switch as a console. PS4 doesn't really have that. The advantage the PS4 has is that PlayStation is just where the audience has been for Persona but that's not to say that hindered P4G from doing well on PC by itself. I think it broke half a million in sales after just a week on the market which is likely what even convinced them to port Persona 5 Strikers to Steam mid way through localization on that game

If anything I'm surprised they didn't do P4G on PS4 before PC considering Persona 5 blew the hell up on PS4 and was responsible for bringing a crap ton of people into the series even before stuff like Joker in Smash or all the mobile crossovers

There isn’t nearly as much overlap among PC, PS and Xbox because they’re all TV based platforms (in the context of console gaming- I know many PC gamers use a monitor), and share 99% of the same library. There’s some overlap, probably due to the 1% exclusives, but nothing too significant. I suppose Steam’s gyro helps draw a tiny bit of overlap, but I suspect most of the people who prefer Gyro have just completely converted over, because it’s hard to go back to sticks only once you acclimate. That said, MS’s play anywhere does incentivize owning an Xbox and PC. not sure how many people take advantage of that though, at least, as a result of the initiative versus people who already had both.

There’s a lot of overlap with Switch and PC, Switch and PS, and Switch and Xbox though. Because switch offers hybrid handheld gaming, and differentiates itself enough with its exclusives (not just a mere count of how many it has, but the actual types of exclusive gaming experiences it offers- Nintendo provides a certain unique flavor not found elsewhere- notably non-realistic, gameplay-focused experiences that are really fun to play). The gyro also helps add appeal for multiplats which are stick-only elsewhere (although Steam offers gyro as well, as mentioned).

@Haruki_NLI
Ya, that sounds like “time to buy a new Switch” to me. Salvage what you can- dock, joycon, grip, charger, which combined are worth around $200 if bought individually. So it’s kinda like you’re getting $200 of free accessories with a new Switch purchase.

Always look on the bright side 😁

@JaxonH Switch is definitely more susecptible to being considered a secondary console for those who already have any of the others. I personally have a PS4, a PC and Switch and I'm also scouting for a PS5 at the moment. I do a considerable amount of overlap in the "owns a PC and a console" space considering PC is almost always the best option for major AAA multiplats and especially legacy games like older 6th and 7th gen titles, so there are people I know who either have a PlayStation and a PC or an Xbox and a PC, but mostly the former

Switch is a console that's always fallen into a niche for me due to how different its exclusive offerings are from Sony's and that's basically how I treat it and I assume I'm far from the minority on that. I've barely encountered anyone who only owns a Switch as their sole console for everything

Sorry for the really late response, I've been busy recently. 🤔😐

@Slowdive
That sounds pretty promising once the new server system gets up and running. That would explain the MH Rise Frind List glitch. 🤔
I guess Capcom must (secretly) have a really solid (behind the scenes) relationship with Nintendo, since Nintendo seems to give Capcom priority with certain things, like taking Capcom's advice on the amount of RAM they should use for the Switch, and now this.
That being said, I do have a few questions. 🤔
Did Oatmeal Dome say how long this transition has been in development for? I thought I saw something about it being started last year, but I just wanted to double-check.
I know that all the first-party games use the NEX infrastructure, but do third party games also use it, or do they just use their own "dedicated servers"?
Did Oatmeal Dome give a timeframe on when NPLN would start being used for most (if not all) of the games? I don't recall seeing a timeframe, so that's why I'm asking.

@TheFrenchiestFry
I think that's partly just the crowd you may associate with, but also a vestige of Nintendo having little console presence for the last 2 decades (barring Wii, which didnt really penetrate core gaming audiences as much as sales would have one believe).

But that's changing pretty rapidly now. Switch is the first Nintendo console I can recall since being a child where it can sufficiently serve as a sole console. Not that I choose to opt for such an approach- but I'm a gaming hobbyist- I have a $4k PC, a PS5, multiple Switches, Vita, 3DS, etc. But I do still play mostly on Switch, which is a major change from last generation where I was split about 40% PS4, 40% 3DS, 15% Wii U and 5% Vita. Now it's 90% Switch, 10% PC, and we'll see how PS5 factors in once it gets some games rolling over the next few years.

But I know quite a few people who only play on Switch (seems like almost everyone at my work now), some of them lapsed gamers who aren't looking to own multiple consoles yet, others who owned PS/Xbox but only casually, and now predominately play Switch. And I think that's because Nintendo has finally provided a viable system capable of completely sating the needs of its consumers. At least, the ones who don't fit the more hobbyist multi-console owner profile.

Of course, that's not to say I think everyone is like that. There's a huge swell of multiconsole gamers that own 2, if not 3, even 4 different platforms. I think the most common split I've personally observed is PC/Switch. Presumably because PC gamers aren't as interested in traditional consoles, but Switch offers something different. And many of them may stick with PC most of the time and only dabble in the occasional Switch exclusive or indie, while other, more Nintendo centric ones stick with Switch most of the time and only dabble in the occasional big multiplat on Steam. I think games starting to offer cross save across PC and Switch has helped. Witcher 3, Divinity Original Sin 2, Immortals Fenyx Rising, Hades, etc. This incentivizes cross platform play.

Also, PC gamers are keenly aware better input methods exist beyond traditional dual sticks, and Switch is the one platform that consistently offers Gyro aiming in both 1st and 3rd party games. And that helps bridge the divide.

At the end of the day though, it doesn't really matter if it's considered a primary, secondary or even tertiary console for someone. As long as they buy it and play it, that's what matters. I think for those who are established, traditional power console gamers, Switch will have great appeal as a secondary device. And that's great. One of its greatest strengths is that it offers value for everyone, whether you're just a gamer who likes Switch and only wants to play Switch games, whether your a PS/Xbox gamer who just wants to catch a few exclusives on the side, whether you're a PC gamer who wants to supplement their setup with a way to play portably... the more people that see enough value in the device to warrant a purchase, the better. Be they casual Switch gamers or die hard Nintendo fans.

@FragRed I mean, Atlus averages just over 3 new games and one port/remaster a year released. So that means Atlus must also announce the same number on average. I don't think 1 port/remaster and 2 new games is out of the question.

@SM3DASislit I'm not sure how secret Capcom's relationship with Nintendo is. They're one of (if not the only) the only 3rd party developers to have worked on multiple mainline titles for Nintendo IPs (Zelda and Kirby via Flagship), many of their IPs are heavily Nintendo associated (Megaman, Monster Hunter, G&G, etc.) and they are one of the only companies to release multiple exclusives on the Wii U. That alone had to help account for why Nintendo approached them about the Switch.

@JaxonH Already got six Joy-Con and two Pro Controllers. 🤣

Problem is a Switch right now is rare. Unless that Monster Hunter one is still on for preorder. Just can't go without streaming Switch games for 2 months 🤣🤣🤣

The Bayonetta 3 "news" is getting agonizing - not because of what's said in itself, but people's overblown reaction to it. Amazing how when Hideki Kamiya essentially tells people not to hang on to every word he says about Bayonetta 3 (rightfully so - it's a Nintendo published game so they will want to do all the marketing under their own terms), people's automatic response is...to go mad about every word he says.

@JaxonH Yeah, Switch is very strange in my circle as well in that it seems to be the one console that pretty much all my gamer friends have. The last I experienced this for a Nintendo system was maybe...the Gameboy? And even then, the difference between home and handheld was much larger so people were doing the bulk of gaming on something else. I even know a few people that do all of their gaming on Switch. Really goes to show the broad appeal of the Switch.