Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@Ralizah My best experience of using remote play is by playing over LAN (i.e. whatever the other option to 'Direct Play' is called) and having my PS4 wired to the router. Then, with good WiFi connection on my Vita, I can play Gran Turismo Sport no problem.

@Ralizah
Oh my gosh. Remote play Persona 5 was so disastrously bad I never picked up my Vita since. And in fact, that’s when I quit playing Persona 5 also. 360p resolution with quarter to half second lag, and missing buttons. I was so frustrated playing at work I threw the Vita in my droor, scratched the screen and had to order a new one to replace it. That’s the last time I ever tried to use remote play for anything. And that’s why I quit playing Persona because I was super addicted to it at the time (hence me trying to play at work on my Vita). Once I realized it was going to strictly be an at home experience, I just lost interest.

I don’t play my PC nearly as often as Switch, but I do use it for Monster Hunter World, and played some of Cyberpunk, Trials Fusion, etc. Was playing the first Trails game for a while, too. But last year I had far fewer Switch games to play. This year is gonna be relentless. I’ve played literally nothing else except Monster Hunter Rise since the demo dropped. And with the lineup as it is I don’t think I’m gonna touch another system this entire year. Any Steam games or PS5 games are gonna have to go to backlog, as will most of the actual Switch games releasing too. Because as much as I like to deceive myself into believing I can keep up with all the games I buy, I know good and well Atelier Ryza 2, Mario 3D World, Bravely Default 2, Persona 5 Strikers, Monster Hunter Rise, Pokémon Snap, and Trails of Cold Steel 4 will be MORE than I can finish this year (though I still need to finish Trails 3 before playing 4) and that’s just the small handful of games releasing in Q1. The other 3 quarters are backlog fodder (except MH Stories 2 and SMTV, those WILL get some playtime... I’ll find a way, somehow). And that’s kind of unfortunate because there are a lot of other really hype games releasing I just won’t have time for. I always pop them in and play for an hour or so, but anything more than that just isn’t gonna happen.

I take my Switch Lite to work every single day- magnetic flip case, back jeans pocket. Played yesterday at the dealership getting my tires re-balanced since they got it wrong the first time- that was 2 hrs of Monster Hunting glory, played at the dentist on Wednesday too, but playing outside of home or work isn’t too frequent. Nice to have when the situation arises though. Still, I play handheld mode at home all the time. Switch on the tv, Switch Lite next to me, bouncing between games. Love the pick up and play nature of a handheld, even when at home. Of course, it also gets brought into the kitchen a lot too.

@TheFrenchiestFry
Uh... Comcast is an internet provider. I was making a joke about your joke. You were mocking people who aren't big into streaming games. Comcast recently implemented a system that further monetizes your internet usage on top of the plan you already pay for. Streaming takes up a good bit of data; a gaming regimen heavy on streaming will likely subject you to overage charges using Comcast and other internet services providers that charge for overages. I thought your comment was fairly short sighted and ignorant of the realities a lot of people face with internet charges.

I don't know what you're talking about with multiplats and consoles.

@TheFrenchiestFry I'll take my Lite out. It's the reason I bought it (right before a pandemic shut me inside 95% of the time, lmao). The base console is a big boy, though, and it stays at home. I primarily enjoy using it in handheld mode, even around the house, so I bought those Split Pad Pro things, and it's been so long since I've bothered using joycons that I can't even find the things.

I... like the PS4, but I have the hardest time convincing myself to boot up the damn thing. I have been semi-regularly lately, since my nephew and I are playing through P5 Royal, but before that, it had been months since I even touched it.

I use my PC a lot more now that load times are so drastically reduced. Although I haven't bothered setting up my DS4 with it since I built the new one, so I've been playing M+K-oriented games to get around that task.

@gcunit Yeah, I've heard that recommendation from others. I've wired my PS4 before, but it didn't seem to help much, which makes me think it's a problem on the Vita's end. Very weird.

@JaxonH Once you get used to the Switch and its seamless hybrid design, it's pretty hard to go back to having to play a game only on the TV at home. The freedom to take your game anywhere is invaluable, and it's why I'll often put up with performance deficits that would irritate me on any other system.

And yeah, there is just... a LOT to play this year. Even 2019, which was pretty good in my book, loaded the majority of its killer releases around Q4. This year, we get big releases every month. Sometimes multiple big releases a month. Companies seem to be spacing their games out nicely this time.

It probably doesn't help that games like Monster Hunter Rise and Disgaea 6 will easily provide hundreds of hours of content to dig into.

I really want to get the mario 35 switch and give the old one to my wife but i dont kniw if i should wait for the pro or 4k or what evr it will be called i will be pretty mad if there is an anoument in jan or feb what shall i do?

@Spjelite82 You should look at photos of the rear of that Switch and decide not to get it because the kickstand is black and stands out like a Sonic fan in a gaming forum. Then you should contact Nintendo, chastising them for their oversight of not making it red.

Honesty the switch has one of the weakest library of all Nintendo hardwareimo. Half of switch games is wii u ports or cross gen. Nintendo were more creative during WII and Wii u era.

@Guest88 Strongest by far for mine. Waaaaaaaaay more good games to play on Switch than any of their previous systems.

@Guest88
I don't think so.
I have more Switch games than Wii, but i have more 3DS games than Switch since i have some similar games such as Pokemon games on 3DS.
Wii U games diversity was really dreadful, very lack 3rd party support.
Wii was pretty diverse, despite there are a lot of mediocre games (not really shovelwares by my opinion)

Ya, Switch library is ridiculously good, keeping in mind context here as well- it’s a portable system and as such you can’t expect every big new game, and keeping in mind it’s only half ways through the generation too...

I’ve never been happier with a system. A big part of that is the hybrid aspect too though. For example, if Switch was just a normal plane Jane console, and it got Borderlands 2, I’d be like... yay? I already own on Steam, Or if it got a DKC Tropical Freeze port, I’d be like... ok? I already have on Wii U. I love the games and all but, I already have them. But because it’s handheld and hybrid, it completely changes the lens through which every game is viewed and enjoyed. Oh snap, a handheld hybrid version of Borderlands 1, 2 and Pre-Sequel that look almost identical to the PS4 version?!! Oh snap, a handheld hybrid version of DKC, my favorite 2D platformer of all time, and without the 240p 20fps stutters of Returns on 3DS, but instead nice crisp HD that looks just as good as on Wii U?!! That’s the power of the hybrid advantage. It makes every game worthy of a victory dance.

Wii U had some really great games from Nintendo, but little to nothing else. A small handful of good 3rd party games from launch year. And I played the heck out of that system, because the exclusives were that good. But Switch just casually swallows the entire Wii U library, makes them all hybrid, and then adds way more on top of it.

There's about 20+ notable Nintendo games that are Switch only with still more to come. It's getting tiresome hearing that the Switch doesn't have anything besides ports at this point now.

Kideki Kamiya hope to share more information about on Bayonetta 3 in 2021(Kamiya, about making us clown and give us already a screenshot or a gameplay trailer for the game).

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/01/hideki_kamiya_hopes...

Switch is by far the best console I've ever owned. Both in terms of what it is and the software it has. I struggle to understand how people find issues with the software. I'm not discrediting your opinion, I just can't understand it myself. Sure there are tons of ports but even without those the exclusives are rock solid.

I think best Nintendo system library is tied between Wii U and Switch. Wii U had a small Wii U library but it had a gigantic retro library consisting of every past Nintendo system except GB, GC, 3DS and Virtual Boy. You even had full backwards compatibility with Wii discs.

Meanwhile Switch has a stronger current system library because of the Wii U's commercial failure (mostly Wii U ports and games moved from Wii U to Switch because Nintendo abandoned Wii U in 2015) but the retro library is absolutely terrible with NSO being a extremely subpar replacement to VC.

Note I'm specifically referring to the actual retro library here. You can argue whether VC or NSO is a better model for retro games but I'm sure most would agree that if you just look at the games themselves the NSO library currently is a lot worse than the VC library.

@Grumblevolcano Wii U has been by far the worst for me. I've never really cared about VC as I prefer to play games I haven't played before than replaying retro games and the Wii U's library of new games was horrible, only a small handful that I cared about. But at least there was the 3DS to make up for it.

@WaveWitch It feels like VR is drifting away again like it did in the 90s, Oculus Quest 2 seems to be the only main VR nowadays. PSVR was a big driving factor for VR but I can't tell if Sony's preparing for a PSVR2 or just straight up abandoning PSVR like Microsoft did with the Kinect.

Switch has more new games than Wii U got its entire lifespan.

Having said that, there’s no doubt Switch gets a LOT of ports, I just don’t see how that’s a bad thing. Unless you’re in the top 1% of people who owned every single console, bought and played every single game, and also has no desire whatsoever to play a beloved favorite ever again, all those “ports” that often get treated like a dirty word on message boards, are one of the system’s greatest strengths.

If it were a plane Jane console, then eh, maybe not. It’s kinda like Stadia bragging about Destiny 2. Not many people care. But when it’s a hybrid handheld, suddenly the rules of the game have changed. It’s like when Vita got Borderlands 2 and it was one of its biggest system sellers. Why? It was just an “old port”, right? Wrong. Categorizing games as ports in a negative light, as if all they are is just a drag on the system and nobody cares about, is ignorant. Ported games are actual games. Real video games with real entertainment value. They can offer more entertainment than a brand new game. Because as it turns out, good games don’t expire. Maybe if the game is 30 years old it sees some expiration because people lose the desire to play games that are up to the same graphical and gameplay standards of the modern era. But any game from the PS3 era onwards is going to fit right in on a handheld hybrid system and feel cutting edge.

Having Borderlands 2 on Switch, that looks comparable to the PS4 version yet with gyro and hybrid handheld, is incredible. Having Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag which looks comparable to the PS4 version yet with gyro and hybrid handheld, is incredible. Having Sniper Elite 4, Diablo 3, Dark Souls, XCOM 2, Bioshock Trilogy... incredible. Too often these amazing handheld hybrid games get brushed under the rug as cogs in the “glorified port machine”. And the same is true for all the Wii U exclusives.

It’s like having a garage of Ferraris, Porches and Lamborghinis, and saying, “it’s just full of old cars we’ve seen before”. Ok, sure, that is true, but those cars are amazing, and better than half the stuff you see today. Being a “glorified port machine” is one of the reasons the system is selling so well. Because as it turns out, most people haven’t played every single game ever released. As it turns out, people like replaying games they love. As it turns out, people like having their favorite games on a hybrid device.

I can definitely understand the argument of the fatigue surrounding the Switch's library being mostly populated with ports of older games. I do think that after 2017 not much was really catching my eye in terms of original content on Switch compared to PS4, especially during 2018. I have bought a few of the re-releases on Switch like FFVII-XII, Okami HD and the Castlevania Anniversary Collection but honestly there have been some cases where I thought it was getting way too heavy handed with the re-releases of older games

Stuff like DOOM and Wolfenstein I can get putting on a platform like Switch but I do feel that there are times where older content is overbearing on the amount of original content released, which is essentially why I bought the console

I have bought a few collections and remasters on both my Switch and my PS4, but Switch kind of suffers from GBA syndrome

There are even cases where I felt the downgrade in performance or just overall presentation in a port didn't even justify picking it up on a portable system (DOOM Eternal, Wolfenstein II, Outer Worlds, Nocturne HD surprisingly)

@WaveWitch I mean does FighterZ even count as a new game release though

When it came out on Switch it had been out on the other platforms for like 8 months so that can count as another port as well. Eternal at least started development with the intention of releasing on everything day and date but stuff like Jump Force, FighterZ, Wolfenstein and Outer Worlds are all still in the port category

On that note I also think companies like Capcom and Square are probably the biggest progenitors of this "port machine" argument considering they've barely released any new original games on Switch to begin with

Mega Man 11, MH Rise and Ghost & Goblins count but out of those three I'd say Rise is the only one that's actually a big budget AAA game. Most of their output has either been ports or budget games. Same with Square. They have Octopath and Bravely and I thoroughly enjoyed Octopath, but Switch still doesn't get stuff like Kingdom Hearts 3, or FFVII Remake, or FFXVI or anything of that scale from them, which is why I think Switch is a really bad choice for a primary console long term. They're just so much you miss out on without at least owning a PS4 or PC in addition to Switch due to the lack of major original content even from first party

@WaveWitch
I mean, I enjoyed ARMS. It's not my favorite Switch game, but it's still pretty fun. (IMO)
You don't have to use the motion controls for it, even if you use the Joy-Cons with the grip, you don't use motion controls. I would recommend using the Pro Controller for ARMS, if you do end up getting it, though. The only controller setup you use motion controls for ARMS is the Thumbs up Grip (had to look that, since I haven't played it in a while). All other controller setups don't use motion controls.
I hope this answers your question. 🤔

@Grumblevolcano, @WaveWitch
I feel like VR was starting to take off a few years, but once the Switch arrived, that seemed to change things for VR. IIRC, I believe there was an article saying that more devs were developing games for Switch, than there were for VR, and that was only a year after the Switch arrived. I believe it was a dev survey that happened around the same time that CES takes place each year.