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FragRed

@Octane Oh... my... God! We were in Yoshi's Crafted World all along

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Therad

AlternateButtons wrote:

Apparently according to King Zell on Resetera, there's an announcement for Switch coming that is "Impossible" and like "Mario appearing on a Playstation console."

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-direct-speculation-...

There's been tons of rumblings about Microsoft doing something big with Nintendo. Some think it's something like Halo coming to Switch. What do you guys think?

Mother 3 confirmed! And Mother 4!!! And Mother Zero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The hype is real!!! Anything less and Nintendo is dead to me!!!!

(OK I will stop trolling now)

But quite frankly, if it would be like "Mario on a playstation", it would have to be a really big IP. We are talking Halo, gears of war or kingdom hearts. So I would think that is an exaggeration to drum up hype. Ori or cuphead seems about right for an indies direct, they are alright, but they ain't no fat plumber.

Edit: seems I assumed Zell was talking about the coming direct, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Gears tactics maybe? That is a genre that works good in handheld mode and it wouldn't really compete to much with the main series.

Edit 2: oh god, it will be Gears Pop!

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Therad

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Toy_Link

Wow! Konami has just doubled the amount of non-pachinko games that they’re releasing this year!

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Therad

So, what do you think of Google Stadia? I think Google is big enough to pull it off with a slow but steady approach.

Therad

Octane

@Therad

Octane wrote:

Alright, I just caught up the press conference. What a snoozefest. A whole bunch of maybes and ifs. The ''potential'' of the cloud; up to a thousand people in a battle royale; if someone is willing to develop it. Up to 8K and 120fps; maybe, but we can't show it now. Comparing their 10 TFLOPs to two outdated consoles who are going to be replaced soon. Great. But how does it stack up against a high-end PC? No word on input lag, which is going to be there regardless if you want it or not. No word on what to do when your internet is down. Can you download the games? Does it work everywhere? Do you need to live in a big city? Specific countries only? No launch date, no price, we don't even know how it's going to work. Is it a Netflix-like sub? Do you pay on a game-per-game basis? If so, it is monthly, yearly, or forever? How about ''ownership''? Refunds? Will Google rotate the games out rendering some unavailable like Netflix? Google is working on exclusive games. What are they? Nothing. Is it a platformer? An action game? Another battle royale? Or a bunch of PlayStore shovelware? They kept talking about streaming as if Twitch didn't exist. Or the ''horror'' of loading times, when most games these days don't have any loading screens at all. They usually have cut scenes to hide them, and you're going to watch those regardless of whether your own device is playing that game, or one of Google's computers. They kept painting the gaming landscape as some post-80s crash that needs Google to save us, yet at the same time this weird idyllic utopia where Google exists with no competitors, and none of the questions above.

Security concerns aside, nothing convinced me this is a drastic change, or ''the future''. It's basically Google does GamePass/PS Now, some time in the future, maybe.

Octane

redd214

@Therad love the concept and project stream worked perfectly for me so I'm looking forward to more details. This obviously isn't for everyone and I don't ever think it will take the place of traditional consoles, just another option for those who can take advantage.

redd214

Therad

AlternateButtons wrote:

@Therad It's an awful idea that I want to go back to the depths of hell where it came from. Streaming games should not and CANNOT be the future for consoles. Taking away the ability to own games from the consumer is not the way I want a video game business to run. I'm afraid of the money grubbing techniques companies will use in the future if this model proves successful.

As for the hardware itself? There's no way in hell they can reasonably pull this off. The input lag is going to be obscene. It's 10.7 Teraflops and 8K resolution isn't that impressive if you can't play the games properly. Your ISP needs to be practically flawless to make this work. And it will just devour your data.

I agree on the technical stuff. But I do think it will have merit for some people, but not all (in the same way consoles haven't taken over PC). I.e those that buy fifa or other yearly franchises but aren't particularly interested in the rest, for those people this will probably be a better service. Why buy a new console for $300 every 5 years, when you can buy a controller for $50? Input lag is also not a problem for every game.

The data problem will sooner or later disappear. I haven't had a data cap on my internet since -99.

I would like to point out that you have never owned a game in your life, it is an illusion. Otherwise format switching (i.e from a nintendo cartridge to PC) wouldn't be illegal in many countries nor emulators, and you would also be able to resell everything you have bought, even pre-order bonuses.

Therad

Therad

@redd214 I think it can take a big chunk of those 'casuals' I keep hearing about. It would probably be more convenient for most people than buying a console.

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Therad

1UP_MARIO

@Therad I think it will do well and its another option for people.

I think a lot of people are not to fussed about owning games but the experience they get out of it.
My childhood I always went to the arcades and played loads of games spend lot of money but never owned any of it but enjoyed playing them and the experience. This will be kind of similar

We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.

1UP_MARIO

I know a lot of people that just buy a PS4 to play fortnite and Fifa

We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.

Grumblevolcano

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Konami does a MGS collection, we seem to be getting games from all the 3rd party Smash characters on Switch.

  • Sonic: Sonic 1, Sonic 2, Sonic Mania, Sonic Forces, SEGA Genesis Classics, Team Sonic Racing
  • Snake: Nothing so far
  • Mega Man: Mega Man Legacy Collection 1+2, Mega Man X Legacy Collection 1+2, Mega Man 11
  • Pac-Man: There's a few Pac-Man games on the eshop
  • Ryu and Ken: Ultra Street Fighter II The Final Challengers, Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection
  • Cloud: Final Fantasy VII
  • Bayonetta: Bayonetta 1+2, Bayonetta 3 (though Bayonetta is kind of a Nintendo franchise now)
  • Simon and possibly Richter: Castlevania Anniversary Collection
  • Joker: Nothing so far (though Persona 5 rumours have been very prominent)

Grumblevolcano

Therad

1UP_MARIO wrote:

I know a lot of people that just buy a PS4 to play fortnite and Fifa

Yeah, I think many are like that. The software attachment rate is typically between 6-9 titles/per console. Given a 5-6 year lifetime cycle for a console, this means that there are a lot of people buying at most one game a year. Those people might very well see this as a good value proposition. Especially since consoles have moved more and more away from simplicity, with patches and maintenance needed.

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Therad

redd214

@Therad yeah one of my neighbors is like that. Only buys NBA 2k, Madden, Call of Duty and one fighting game every single year. That's all he wants to play and I think something like this is would be great for him, obviously assuming it works well which I think it will in my neck of the woods. So many crapping on this for a myriad of reasons, maybe this type of thing just isn't for a game like you.

redd214

redd214

@DarthNocturnal of course it is. According to hardcore nintendo fans anything outside of mentioning the exact release date of their favorite franchise is trolling.

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redd214

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Wishing me a good day, suggesting I buy things with money.... What's wrong with this company! It's a troll farm, I tell ya.

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