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Haruki_NLI

@Octane The toys themselves...are fine tbh. Sturdy enough.

The games? What games?

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Haruki_NLI

@Octane I didn't build the rod or bike. So yeah...

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Haruki_NLI

@Octane I just went with what I felt like. Meh. It doesn't matter really.

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Agriculture

Octane wrote:

@Agriculture I hope that's sarcasm. You can't always compare consoles 1 to 1.

What does that even mean? Can't compare 1 to 1? I guess by not being identical in terms of software, you can't compare the PS4 and Xbox One either. If you really like Cuphead it won't matter, you're getting an Xbox One.

If this is what you mean, then yes, I can see how Nintendo has more exclusives to swing around to get people to buy the Switch, but in hard numbers they are still far behind. If you mean that you can't compare the Switches sales to the PS4 and Xbox One, then it's completely wrong. Consumers don't care if someone was late to market. It's no different from when PS3 was delayed a year - Sony just had to work harder to catch up to the Xbox 360. Nintendo has a massive 3,5 years to catch up. But on the positive side, they do have a lot of WiiU games that can be ported.

skywake wrote:

Except that it's also doing pretty well on that measure. It's already over half the install base of the XBOne and at the rate both are going it'll overtake it by the end of 2019. In terms of current sales it's selling only behind the PS4 in terms of hardware and software sales. Software sales it's quite a bit behind but that makes sense given how far ahead of everything else the PS4 is in terms of install base. But hardware sales it's pretty damn close.

So I'm not sure what your point is here....

My point is that it's not sustainable to be a niche console. It's going to be even harder in the future, with increased cost of game development. If someone wants to develop a game, they currently are looking at 4 times the install base on the PS4, so that will probably be the highest priority. It feels like the Gamecube era all over again.

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Agriculture

EvilLucario wrote:

The next Xbox is certainly gonna be interesting to keep an eye on, though. Remember that Microsoft is preparing for the future with their studio acquisitions and stuff. And if they leverage their backwards compatibility initiatives to allow complete backwards compatibility with all Xbox One games with no strings attached, that's a pretty good incentive if Sony fumbles up somewhere there.

Sony has already started to fumble the ball by various ways to shut out competition, such as not allowing cross play, and by locking down Fortnite accounts logged into a PS4. What I want to see is a market that resembles the seventh generation of consoles. Hard competition and similar sales between consoles and some blue ocean stuff to draw in new people into gaming. What we seem to get now in the eight generation is Microsoft and Sony trying to take over the whole market, and Nintendo having a huge uphill battle.

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Octane

@Agriculture Of course it's ''behind'', it came out last year. And no, consumers don't care how much a system has sold, it's the other way around, if people care about a system, it will sell. You won't find a big sticker on the box of your Switch that says ''WARNING! Only 18 million units sold!''.

Octane

Agriculture

Octane wrote:

@Agriculture Of course it's ''behind'', it came out last year. And no, consumers don't care how much a system has sold, it's the other way around, if people care about a system, it will sell. You won't find a big sticker on the box of your Switch that says ''WARNING! Only 18 million units sold!''.

There's of course a step in between. Consumers care what games they can get for a console, and that depends on how many consoles has been sold.

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Tsurii wrote:

@Agriculture you're trying way too hard only to compare apples with oranges.

I find it fascinating to see how much people hold on to this idea of Nintendo being an orange and everyone else is being an apple. If anything, we should be less incline towards this thinking, because it recent decades we've seen examples of the complete opposite. We've seen the video game market taking consumer groups from toy manufacturers. We've seen television taking consumer groups from the movie industry. Everyone in the entertainment industry just competes for peoples money and free time.

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gcunit

But oh look, there are twice as many 3DS systems sold than XB1s, so surely 3DS is getting more new games than XB1...

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Octane

gcunit wrote:

But oh look, there are twice as many 3DS systems sold than XB1s, so surely 3DS is getting more new games than XB1...

Octane

Agriculture

Tsurii wrote:

@Agriculture I'm talking about comparing lifetime sales for systems that released almost 3 years apart.

I'm not disagreeing that there's a reason why there's 4 times as many PS4's as Switches out there, but the game developers and consumers won't care about that. There's one thing I think would help Nintendo in the future more than anything, and that would be 100 % backwards comparability with the Switch on their next console. Same game cards, and the same software on the "Switch 2" would mean Nintendo catching up. I want them to catch up, because being a distant second for so long means they can't develop as many and as expensive games.

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Octane wrote:

gcunit wrote:

But oh look, there are twice as many 3DS systems sold than XB1s, so surely 3DS is getting more new games than XB1...

Xbox One is standard PC hardware that is powerful enough to run most games, so porting them is easy. The Switch has completely different hardware and isn't powerful enough to run many new games, so it requires some re-working on the games to get them to run on the Switch.

What would help Nintendo in this regard would be if Sony released a PS Vita 2 that had a dock just like the Switch. Then there would be more infrastructure surrounding these kinds of machines.

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NEStalgia

Never have I see people that dislike Nintendo more than the commentariat on NintendoLife articles. It's simply amazing. Stellar numbers are interpreted as a stock collapse inducer, catastrophically missed targets, the beginning of a selloff!

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Grumblevolcano

@NEStalgia It is rumoured that Nintendoom summons Tom Nook.

On a more serious note, when you search Nintendo Direct on google the result from the official Nintendo site says "3 Aug 2018 - Nintendo Direct is...". I think it's just confusion regarding the ways of writing the date (3/8/18 is March 8th 2018 in NA which is when the March Direct was) but who knows how long it has mentioned "3 Aug 2018".

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FragRed

@Grumblevolcano I somehow doubt Nintendo ever plans when to have a Direct much more than a couple of weeks to a month max, in advance. Looking at the ones they’ve been doing since the Switch launched, I wouldn’t think too much planning is required. It’s really just a bunch of trailers with scripted commentary over the top with a fancy themed menu sequence stitching it altogether. Though I do hope one comes soon, just because I’m curious as to what these other games are that Nintendo apparently has coming out. Even if they’re nothing major.

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Grumblevolcano

@FragRed Wondering how long it had "3 Aug 2018" was more a case of if recent that could suggest it being a legit Nintendo Direct date but say it's been around for months for example then it would clearly be just an error regarding the date (3/8 vs. 8/3). We'll find out soon enough anyway.

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