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Lroy

How does Steam Box/Link work again? Do you have to stream from your Laptop/Desktop or can you just get the box and connect that to the TV?

Or in this case of TVs having Steam built in. Will you not need to link it to your Laptop or PC?

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JaxonH

@rallydefault
Really not up for a back and forth, but "on sale" isn't standard pricing.

You tag me when the standard price for a 500gb SSD that can fit in a portable device (so m.2 42mm SSD) is $49.99 and tell me I was wrong. I just bought one for my GPD Win 2. It was $345.

You let me know when that day comes.

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Grumblevolcano

The main issue Microsoft and Sony would have with going down the Switch route is they'd be giving up on the quest for the most powerful console as a result. The XB1X is currently the most powerful console but at some point the PS5 will be announced and be more powerful which will then lead to Microsoft releasing a more powerful Xbox and the cycle repeats.

Microsoft realized after the 2013 chaos that the Nintendo way doesn't work with the Xbox community and killed off Kinect completely focusing instead on returning to the quest for the most powerful console.

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Octane

@Grumblevolcano It doesn't work if you go up against a €400 machine with a €500 machine, less games, and various other silly stuff (used games etc.). Microsoft never tried something "different", they did the same thing as Sony, but more expensive, with less games and more restrictions.

Octane

Anti-Matter

@Octane
"Microsoft never tried something "different", they did the same thing as Sony, but more expensive, with less games and more restrictions."

And that's the reason why i never consider xbox machines.

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Therad

One thing Sony or MS could do is the power dock route. This is something I am quite sure is impossible on the switch, you need to have fast, latency free bandwidth between 2 coupled GPUs to really have a big difference between the two modes. Unless they have added trickery to use the USB-C port in a non-standard way.

Skywake is right, the power route is unsustainable. Most people won't have any use for 4k, we are well in diminishing returns territory for stationary consoles. They need another hook than better graphics going forward.

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WebHead

Don’t think I’ll be paying for switch online. Don’t really care for the nes stuff and the voice chat stuff is absurd and frankly so is anyone who defends it. It’s also ridiculous you can’t back up saves to microsd or use Bluetooth headsets. I don’t have time for baby steps and it honestly feels like they don’t really care. And if they don’t care why should I?

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electrolite77

@Therad

I think Sony and MS will go the other way. They'll chase the state of the art until-if the tech route actually starts showing diminishing returns-their £300 launch Console can match a high-powered PC.

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electrolite77

@WebHead

I'm not defending the voice chat, I just don't care because I don't use it. I'm not 100% whether I'll sign up but that won't stop me.

I do agree on the local saves issue and the Bluetooth headset point. I'm still annoyed they didn't put a headphone port on the Classic Controller.

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rallydefault

JaxonH wrote:

@rallydefault
Really not up for a back and forth, but "on sale" isn't standard pricing.

You tag me when the standard price for a 500gb SSD that can fit in a portable device (so m.2 42mm SSD) is $49.99 and tell me I was wrong. I just bought one for my GPD Win 2. It was $345.

You let me know when that day comes.

Uhm...how bout no? lol

I'm not going to make proving some random person on the internet wrong a priority in my life. I've got bigger fish to fry, and that sort of thing doesn't bring me any joy.

Also - who buys anything these days when it's not on sale? Especially high-priced tech stuff.

You know you're going to be wrong at some point in the next 5 years which is why you're being so gosh-darned defensive about this point. Just chill. It's ok. We're all on the same team: being decent human beings (hopefully) lol

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Aozz101x

@WebHead i feel like their holding back more details, on this service. (imho)
Nintendo said it would be "worth the wait" (but this was before the may 7th reveal, they could just be talking about that)
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/60828/nintendo-switch-online-s...

We have some ideas about how to make Nintendo Switch Online appealing when it becomes a for-pay service, so I think our next announcement will be worth the wait

as i said. i hope there more details.

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Grumblevolcano

@Winklebottom I think they expected cloud saves and NES games to be enough.

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Ralizah

For me, the price is perfect considering what's being offered.

I couldn't care less about social features or bluetooth headset support, though.

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Therad

Lroy wrote:

How does Steam Box/Link work again? Do you have to stream from your Laptop/Desktop or can you just get the box and connect that to the TV?

Or in this case of TVs having Steam built in. Will you not need to link it to your Laptop or PC?

Yes, you stream from a computer to the TV in the same house.

Therad

Therad

electrolite77 wrote:

@Therad

I think Sony and MS will go the other way. They'll chase the state of the art until-if the tech route actually starts showing diminishing returns-their £300 launch Console can match a high-powered PC.

A game on a TV doesn't need as much power, since most people have the TV much farther away from the couch. If I remember correctly, the average distance from the TV to the couch in the US is 9 feet. At that distance 4k is totally worthless*. So diminishing returns is already happening.

  • Worthless for pixel density, there might be other things making it better, such as colours, saturation, contrast, self adjusting for lightning etc.

Therad

WebHead

Honestly if they aren’t gonna take it seriously then they have no business charging for it imo. @Grumblevolcano

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Aozz101x

@Grumblevolcano might be right.

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Haruki_NLI

You need to ask yourself if the service as is at the current price has value to you.

"Economic value is a measure of the benefit provided by a good or service to an economic agent. It is generally measured relative to units of currency, and the interpretation is therefore "what is the maximum amount of money a specific actor is willing and able to pay for the good or service"?"

In your financial situation with your disposable income, does the online service have value to you at it's current price for what it offers?

If yes, buy it. If not, don't. But don't force your choice on others.

Imagine if someone had control of your bank account and what you should spend the money you earned on what they think is valuable. That's for you to decide as an individual and for no one else to influence nor for you to influence what anyone else perceives as value.

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electrolite77

@Therad

You're right, it is a lot more than that. And not just the picture but anything portable is naturally very limited in terms of processing power. It's also marketing, when it comes to power and resolutions, at which point the law of diminishing returns is negated to a degree anyway.

I really like the Switch, it suits Nintendo perfectly. But I think it's hugely fanciful to extrapolate that into being perfect for everyone else. It's as fanciful as those who think Nintendo should put out a tethered system.

And that's before we get onto the effects of mobile gaming on the handheld console market, restrictions of battery tech etc.

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electrolite77

WebHead wrote:

Honestly if they aren’t gonna take it seriously then they have no business charging for it imo.

If enough people are willing to pay for it they have every right to charge for it.

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