@Octane That is true, but it doesn't mean it's an impossible thing to do. They managed to create a new market during the 7th gen, after all. Besides, I don't think having a very slim line-up during these last two years is enough to alienate a significant enough portion of the (shrinking, admittedly) fanbase. I'd say it's a case of the vocal minority being very loud and misrepresenting the users as a whole. Especially in dedicated websites such as this one, which favor the echo-chamber effect.
Besides, I seriously doubt that those who have claimed they're done with Nintendo after the Wii U will keep their word when the NX and its games are unveiled. That's just my gut, though.
This is Nintendo we're talking about here. We know what we're getting; sequels to the same games since the N64 era. A 3D Mario, some 2D yoshi / kirby / DK/ mario games, a zelda or two, Animal Crossing, smash bros, mario party, mario kart, a pokemon game of sorts, some other mario sports games, and maybe they'll throw in a semi-surprise like a Metroid, F-Zero, etc. And we'll probably get a new Splatoon at some point.
I'm more hopeful with regards to what he console will actually be i.e. I'm hoping for a home console / handheld hybrid where I can play the exact same games and system on the big screen AND take with me on the go. That way have the next generation console to eventually replace my XBox 360 and PS Vita.
OH, and I would also hope for a hybrid because, unless handheld is in there somewhere, there's NO WAY Nintendo will be getting any 3rd party support.
However, I'm hoping that they DON'T add any stupid gimmicks this time round. Not crazy pad designs or gimmicky ways to play games. Either a standard controller or a standard handheld system. All gimmicky ideas are optional extras ala the PS Move, Kinect, etc.
If the NX is the successor to both the Wii U and 3DS it's gonna pull both audiences together.
You would have access to the whole Nintendo catalogue without the need of having two systems.
You could take the console out on the streets like a Newer New 3DS, and you could plug it into the TV at home to play it like the next newest home console.
The games wouldn't be divided anymore, resulting in more games for everyone,
and the fans wouldn't be divided anymore: the fact is there are lots of users only interested in home consoles and probably even more only interested in handheld gaming (at the moment at least).
...well, there's still the regional thing, but that's a different separation.
Also, the console sales wouldn't be divided anymore. If you add the sales of Wii U and 3DS together Nintendo is still up there as the console market leader, besides of dying so much.
The possible VR extension is another thing that could take off with exclusive games that would make sense (first person/cockpit games) like F-Zero VR, Cruis'n Adventure, and Metroid Prime VR. The NX could then receive Oculus Rift and PS4 VR ports as well.
If this turns out to be real, there's still the question, how much will it cost? How long will the batteries last in such a powerful HHH (handheld-homeconsole-hybrid)?
I must be in the minority, but I don't want backwards compatibility. Nintendo should go all out with the new console, and that means not having the Wii U's architecture holding them back.
What else... Well, an easier architecture to port so they can get third parties back on board. No gimmicks, no weirds controllers a la Wiimote, and no hybrid. It looks pretty in paper, but at least for me, it doesn't look convincing in reality.
And finally, I hope they move away from the Wii branding. That has done Nintendo a lot of harm in the last years, they better push a new name for the console, something they can position to compete with PS and XBOX.
@DefHalan If it worked as the XB1 BC, being a download installed in your hard drive instead of being fully BC like the Wii U or the Wii, then yeah, it could work.
But if having BC like the Wii/Wii U means having an entire mode dedicated to them and using similar architecture, I hope they ditch it. Nintendo really needs to focus on the future and not on the past.
@DefHalan
For me, it is looking to the past. If I want to play my old games, I'll simply use that console. It simply isn't a defining characteristic to sell a home console nowadays.
But let's agree to disagree, everyone has their own opinions on the matter.
@Luna_110 That is a lot to ask of customers. If they want to play old games, they have to buy old systems (most likely used) and buy old games (most likely used and for way more than the original price) and hope they still work. Having a means to play old games on new Hardware, like Virtual Console or Backwards Compatibility, especially when most games are released digitally now, is important for the market and the future of gaming hardware.
But like you said, lets agree to disagree.
People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...
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I must be in the minority, but I don't want backwards compatibility. Nintendo should go all out with the new console, and that means not having the Wii U's architecture holding them back.
You're not alone on that. I agree with everything you mention, but especially with this.
@DefHalan I'd say expanding the VC is the way to go. No matter which set of games we're talking about, the successors of the device they were made for are not going to support them in the near future. Since the Wii U (and its games) didn't sell as much, I'd say this is the perfect chance for Nintendo to ditch backwards compatibility. They could put all their Wii U games on the eShop for a reduced price to make easy money at the beginning of the NX's lifespan, similarly to what they did with those rarer Wii games like Xenoblade or Metroid Prime Trilogy. It would boost interest on the NX and the games get a second chance to do better without being tied to a sinking ship.
@Marce2240 I am confused. You talk about not needing backwards compatibility but then you talk about how having backwards compatibility could be a good thing by offering Wii U games on the eShop.
If they have backwards compatibility like the XB1, they could have it be closer to VC and even fall under the VC name, unlike Wii downloadable titles currently on the Wii U. Having lots of games people skipped at launch will be helpful to the sysrem. I think a lot of people saw the trouble the Wii U was in at the beginning and are hoping the NX is backwards compatible so they can get both generations of games. I also think backwards compatibility is important, especially on the digital download world that we live in now.
People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...
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I like backwards compatibility, and HD remakes, since it helps to consolidate my platforms into fewer devices.
I have a limited collection (I don't collect everything for the sake of collecting, I only keep stuff I know I'll play again) and I tend to try and spread the load, across hardware...
...for instance I have an NTSC launch PS3 to run my PS1 & PS2 games in wide screen with smoothed graphics via HDMI and optical audio out, but my plan is to pick up an inexpensive PS3 revision for my Blu-rays and PS3 games, so that I stress the my launch console as little as possible.
I have a gamecube with gamecube player for Super Circuit, Sheep & MotoRacer Advance (and the Zelda-like Monster House (that I'm yet to play)). I play Super Circuit with a Snes controller via a simple cable adapter (MotoRacer Advance (the only true "hidden gem" that absolutely no one seems to know about) plays beautifully with a classic controller (if you can find a way to get it hooked up))
I was hoping to use the Wii-U to run my Wii fighting games via HDMI using the Gamecube controller with the Nintendo adapter, but I've only just found out that that adapter only supports Pokken and Smash Bros. Which means I've got to hang on to my launch Wii for the NGC controller compatibility.
The Gamecube controller is the only eight-way gated thumb stick on the market, and as a casual player of fighting games, for me, my Wii is my platform of choice, for fighting games, for that reason.
I'd love to see Nintendo open up compatibility for stuff like Guilty Gear XX Accent Core, Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom, Clash of Ninja and Orochi Saga...
...I just think those should have e-shop releases on Wii-U and NX and have Gamecube controller compatibility, but no one seems to have realised the value of the eight-way gate on the NGC controller (for instance, I think something like that would have made Skate a better game)...I think fight-sticks are a carry-over from an age when having an arcade machine in your own home was a novelty and it just seems to have stuck...there are better solutions for control of games, for example...thumb sticks. If you want an authentic arcade experience then buy a good arcade stick, maybe even a cabinet to mount it all in, but know that there have been big leaps forwards in terms of fidelity of control.
I guess I'll end up buying Pokken, but simply because it's potentially the only game of its type that utilises the Gamecube controller.
I would hope the NX addresses that stuff and makes those existing Wii fighting games accessible through the online store and support use of the NGC controller, but I guess that kind of thing is often much more easily said than done.
@DefHalan I was talking about having physical backwards compatibility due to how it could either condition the NX's architecture, cost or both. Having digital BC is never detrimental, obviously. Your second paragraph is exactly the idea I had in mind.
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