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NotAceAttorney

@Snaplocket What would make a good judge then? If the fans of the game aren't a good measure, then who is? Honest question.

With all being said, money is more important to Nintendo than representing their characters. And if the money is with third-party, that's where Nintendo will go. With mass market games like Smash, they HAVE to appeal to the wider audience.

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Snaplocket

@meleebrawler I didn't say Bayonetta was undeserving, just that a lot of the votes had to do with timing. Admittedly I've always had a beef with third parties in Smash ever since Brawl and Snake. I don't know, but they've always been my least favorite characters and would much rather have more Nintendo reps, not to mention I found the Wii U game to be pretty underwhelming overall. I'm aware I'm part of the minority here, so don't chew me out over it.

@NonAceAttorney There's no easy answer to that, polls will always be biased to whatever is recent and hot. If someone held a poll for "best horror movies ever" I can almost assure you IT would be one of the top picks just because it'd recently come and is getting unanimous praise.

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NotAceAttorney

@Snaplocket That isn't exactly true. The Fire Emblem Heroes poll had Ike win best Male character and Lyn win best Female character. Both of these are from much older games in the series. Cloud is still regarded as one of the best FF protagonists 20 years later. Sometimes, you just have to give credit where credit is due.

There is always going to some level of bias I agree 100%. But there's more to it. People just found Bayonetta more interesting than Nintendo characters.

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Snaplocket

@NotAceAttorney It's not just what's recent, what started it is a big deal too. Lyn and Ike were the first female protagonist and male protagonist in the series for Western audiences respectively (Lyn is the only female protagonist in the series period besides the Avatar). Ike also has Smash fame. Not to mention just about every character in the top ten in that poll was either nostalgia or recent.
Like I said, no easy answer, but generally nostalgia and what's recent generally makes up what the audience will be aware of. There's a reason why the SNES to Gamecube era Nintendo games were almost completely ignored in Smash 4 after all.

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Late

Snaplocket wrote:

Lyn and Ike were the first female protagonist and male protagonist in the series for Western audiences respectively (Lyn is the only female protagonist in the series period besides the Avatar).

Wait. Am I missing something here? Eirika and Celica are both female protagonists. And both Eliwood and Ephraim were male protagonists before Ike.

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Snaplocket

@Late Forgot about Celica. I should have been more clear, Ike was the first protagonist in a console game. Home console games have much more weight then handheld titles, also Smash, Smash is a big part of it. Admittedly, I didn't get my facts straight in the previous post.

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Grumblevolcano

Smash is the main factor for popularity regarding pre-Awakening characters. Marth and Roy were made playable in Melee, Ike was made playable in Brawl and one of those 2 games (I don’t remember which) introduced Lyn as an assist trophy. If you take those 4 away, you’re left with mostly a load of Awakening and Fates characters regarding popularity.

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Late

@Snaplocket No worries. I just got a bit confused by that statement.

They added much more personality to characters in Awakening. That's one of the reasons it sold so well and kept the franchise alive. While I have my favorites in the older games as well, I don't feel the same kind of connection to them because they don't really spend much time on the characters. I ended up liking characters like Neimi and Joshua in The Sacred Stones. The reason being their introduction, design and combat abilities. In Awakening you get to know the characters inside-out thanks to huge amount of dialogue dedicated to each one of them.

Oh, this is about Smash for Switch? Yes, please. I want to play Smash on my Switch. I want to play as Inkling.

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meleebrawler

@Grumblevolcano You have to consider Marth only got in Melee by being well-liked in Japan in the first place. And putting in a character from an as-yet unreleased game (Roy) certainly shows confidence in the franchise.

Fan demand is wildly different across regions, the poll even separated them for this reason. We may clamour for Metroid characters and K. Rool in the west, but not many care much for them in Japan and they remain lukewarm at best towards Ike to this day.

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Snaplocket

@meleebrawler Which is why we need the next Smash game to focus on popular characters in the West since Japan got everyone they wanted three times in a row.

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OdnetninAges

Late wrote:

They added much more personality to characters in Awakening. That's one of the reasons it sold so well and kept the franchise alive. While I have my favorites in the older games as well, I don't feel the same kind of connection to them because they don't really spend much time on the characters. I ended up liking characters like Neimi and Joshua in The Sacred Stones. The reason being their introduction, design and combat abilities. In Awakening you get to know the characters inside-out thanks to huge amount of dialogue dedicated to each one of them.

Yesss, I feel the exact same way. Glad to see someone who agrees with me on this.

Late wrote:

I want to play Smash on my Switch. I want to play as Inkling.

They'd be silly to not add Inkling at this point. Splatoon has become super popular.

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