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VoidofLight

@Slowdive Prime Trilogy has been circulating around for about 3 years at this point. The Zelda ones have been circulating around for about a year, but all we have is a few rumors which boasted about it being a anniversary announcement, then quickly backtracking when it didn't happen.

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GrailUK

Y'know, I don't see why games like Nintendo Land can't come to Switch. I mean, all you need is 2 Switches haha.

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VoidofLight

@Slowdive I'll believe it when Nintendo actually announces it. Until then, it's just yet another baseless rumor.

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Dezzy

Slowdive wrote:

The The Legend of Zelda: Windwaker HD and Twilight Princess pack is likely in the same position as Metroid Prime Trilogy HD; waiting for a release closer to the bigger game.

What bigger game? Those Zelda games don't have any necessary connection to the BotW sequel, such that you might need to play them first.

You only need to play BotW first, we can presume.

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VoidofLight

@Slowdive That was a different instance, and even then, it was a baseless rumor until it was confirmed to be real. All rumors are baseless unless Nintendo confirms otherwise.

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VoidofLight

@Slowdive Just because they managed to get something right doesn't mean they'll be right all the time. People are quick to take leaker's as the say all be all when it comes to news like this, but in reality that's further from the truth. That's why it's just better in general to wait and see, with Nintendo revealing and confirming it themselves, and without these people trying to "leak" it, only to cause fans to get riled up when it's not true and either attack the people leaking it or attack the company which promised nothing.

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VoidofLight

@Slowdive The thing with Metroid Dread is that it was at least confirmed back in a game, and then it all went radio silent, before it unexpectedly came back. Also you'd be surprised on what people would do for clout, even journalists. Not to mention, these Journalists have sources, who in which could be wrong most of the time, or be bad at tipping them off.

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VoidofLight

@Slowdive I mean, it's not hard to guess the game could've been a thing. Guess something so many times, and it's bound to come true eventually. Most people were guessing off of the series director wanting to do something with Dread, but never had the proper way of doing it until now. Like eventually, there may be a Metroid Prime Trilogy collection.. but maybe in the distant future, when Nintendo has a new console. Are we going to up and say those leaks were correct too, just because they guessed the obvious, when they guessed it many years before it happened, and kept guessing it until it eventually happened?

If a switch pro does release years from now, are people going to point to these rumors circulating now, and say that it was right, despite them guessing it every single year?

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VoidofLight

@Slowdive And those people who are "confirming" it's existence aren't confirming it. It's only confirmed when Nintendo confirms it themselves, not when a "leaker" or "Twitter insider" confirms it. Most of the time, their words mean very little. Intentionally vague, just so that when something doesn't happen, they can say "Well, I never gave a date, so I can't be called out for not being credible!".

That's the issue with modern Nintendo culture. People circulate rumors from these rumormongers, who in actuality don't know anything at all, but like to say that they do, being vague as possible in return. Then gaming news sites perpetuate these rumors, since they come from people who once gotten 3 things right in the past, not understanding that these "Insiders" can always end up being wrong due to their sources.

When things don't end up happening the way that these "insiders" say they will, they then get attacked, or people attack Nintendo, perpetuating the cycle of disappointment which ruins the fun for everyone involved. There's no longer surprises to announcements, since it's either met with extreme disappointment by people who get their hopes high for something different, or if the leakers do end up being correct, they spoiled the reveal and the big surprise factor from the reveal.

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Dezzy

@Slowdive

Except I don't think Prime 4 will be coming out until 2023, so Metroid Dread will probably not really be a precursor to it on any reasonable time scale.
They're clearly holding onto Prime Trilogy for that exact reason. They want that to come out about 9-12 months before Prime 4, I'm guessing.

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VoidofLight

Prime Trilogy could just be another Star Fox Grand Prix situation, where everyone agrees it's real, when it never was, and never was planned to be real. It was a fake leak made up by someone, which everyone bought into, including insiders.

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VoidofLight

@Slowdive People hold Bloomberg up to high regards, but even they could have the possibility of being wrong. People put way too much trust into insiders.

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GrailUK

@VoidofLight It's such a safe bet that Nintendo will bring their Wii / GC titles as HD remasters once all the Wii U titles dry up that Metroid Prime Trilogy is bound to happen. Fools game saying when, mind.

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VoidofLight

@GrailUK But that's just speculation based on something that could just possibly be untrue. We don't know what Nintendo will do after the Wii U ports dry up. They could just end up doing nothing, and continue making new games with the occasional remake/remaster.

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VoidofLight

@Slowdive Then what are they? They must get their information somehow. Can't just come out of thin air, since they'd just be guessing stuff right?

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GrailUK

@VoidofLight Indeed. I only look forward to what is announced, but some rumours are so nice I hope they happen lol. But, it's best just to play what they release and appreciate what they announce.

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Grumblevolcano

@VoidofLight We've already gotten a hint of what Nintendo will do when the Wii U ports dry up due to 2019-2021's lineup. Pre-3DS handheld games get remakes, 3DS and Wii games get HD remasters. N64 and GC are the big unknowns given there's only 1 example of each (Super Mario 64 and Super Mario Sunshine in 3D All Stars).

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DannyBoi

Look people, nintendo are the king of the endtimes. They are acting pretty weird.

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skywake

VoidofLight wrote:

@GrailUK But that's just speculation based on something that could just possibly be untrue. We don't know what Nintendo will do after the Wii U ports dry up. They could just end up doing nothing, and continue making new games with the occasional remake/remaster.

I mean there's a fair amount of precedent for Nintendo porting/remastering titles to pad out the library for low effort/high reward. Just about every console they've made since probably the Gameboy Color has leant on ports to prop up its library. And there's reason to believe the Switch cycle is going to be longer than usual.

They've exhausted the Wii U well, they're already dipping into the Wii and GC. And going further back than that isn't really a viable option for "reducing development effort" because, lets be honest for a second, remaking something like Link's Awakening or Advanced Wars on the Switch is not less effort than making a new title. It's a safer bet in terms of sales but it's not an easier release in terms of effort.

Also kinda sliding back to the leaks/rumours hardware bit for a second. Using the earliest console release dates the longest time Nintendo has gone without releasing a new "hardware platform" is just under 6 years, between the release of the Famicom and GB in Japan. The longest gap between two "main consoles" was just over 7 years between the Famicom and SNES.

Using that metric and calculating some dates? August 19th 2019 was when the Switch generation became "longer than average" in terms of the gap between new hardware*. The 20th of Nov last year was when it became older than the average Nintendo portable console lifecycle. Oct 24th next year is when it becomes older than the average lifecycle for a Nintendo home console.

Then we start breaking new ground. Dec 9th next year is when the Switch, discounting potential hardware refreshes, marks the longest gap between Nintendo releasing new hardware. March 3rd 2023 is when it has been on the market with no direct successor for longer than the Wii was. Then the 20th June 2024 marks when it overtakes the Famicom -> SNES transition for the longest gap between any Nintendo console and it's direct successor..... ignoring the GB -> GBC gap which is interrupted by the VB.

Basically, the Switch is almost surely going to be stretching the length of time we're used to for Nintendo consoles. I am personally expecting a Switch revision somewhere in here but, in terms of software, that's only going to make it an even longer console generation. Nintendo is going to have to dig into some other wells, the Wii/GC is probably the best source for that. And of all the games in that library? Metroid Prime is the easiest pick. Super safe bet to say there's a Switch release for Metroid Prime Trilogy.

*worth noting that the quiet 2019 Switch revision came out in July 2019

edit: that was a longer post than I expected......

Edited on by skywake

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StuTwo

I think Mario Galaxy 2 is perhaps an even easier pick for a Wii -> Switch conversion. I'd be shocked if we don't see it late in the Switch lifespan. I reckon next year - provided that there's no new Mario game planned.

Kirby's Epic Yarn is a game that I think we'd have seen on Switch by now if they hadn't ported it as a very late 3DS release. Ditto DKC:R.

The Wii Punch Out would also seem to be a game that would make a natural port. It always looked nice with an ageless cartoon style and it was well received.

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