Topic: Next Nintendo Direct?

@Magician Still the same concept though, because you don't even get to keep the games. Once they're removed from the service, they're gone for good, and same if the service gets axed.

There is no way Gamepass on someone else's closed system is 'win-win'. Stop it. I'm going to expect Master Chief in Smash and go bonkers if it's anything more than that. In the meantime, they get all the publicity of the internet going crazy. And you can't buy that.

@GrailUK how is it not a win-win?

@Jump Because software is where the money is. Microsoft worked out the average attach rate and calculated a way of making everyone spend more under the illusion of loads of games. So, how exactly is someone getting a shortcut to getting folk to spend $15 a month for all the games a win for Nintendo? It cuts them off. You really think someone buying a Switch and not buying games is a win? I can't help you if you do.

@GrailUK Ninty gamers buy Ninty games so no loss there, they aren’t gonna stop buying Animal Crossing and Mario Kart because of GanePass. Switch offering the AAA games not currently on it provides gamers moving from PS4 and Xbone a different option to their successors to increase the Switch user base for more NSO subs and potential Mario Kart buyers plus they get paid to allow GP on it. Microsoft gets more subscribers which is what their goal is. Win-win.

Saying that it looks unlikely GamePaas is coming to Switch.

@jump True, it's a moot point. And I get your point with AAA. But then what about all the indies? And selling Switches for folk to buy into a Microsoft eco-system is just bonkers to me. Every Switch sold would be negligable profit and 100's of dollars of no sales. I'm not saying I don't want it to happen, but I bet the talks about it were strained at best. If they can make it work out, then it would be bloody interesting what deal they made. Because Microsoft wins much more than Nintendo does after a few months!

Besides, if the new Switch is as magic tech as the reports claim, having Microsoft funnel AAA when they create a machine capapble of porting them is also insane to me.

I'm going back to my Smash focused E3 2021 Direct prediction as I think Nintendo will be very cautious about announcing stuff given the current situation in Japan.

So I think E3 2021 will look something like:

• Start off with a big upcoming yet to be announced 3rd party release
• Animal Crossing New Horizons big 2.0 update or DLC (either way includes highly wanted content like Brewster)
• Trailers for some known 3rd party titles like Monster Hunter Stories 2, Monster Hunter Rise, No More Heroes 3 and NEO TWEWY in addition to some unknown 3rd party titles
• Surprise 1st party port(s) announcement (stuff like XCX or Metroid Prime Trilogy)
• SMTV trailer (first trailer since last July)
• Zelda (Age of Calamity DLC and Skyward Sword HD)
• Coming soon highlight reel (Mario Golf Super Rush appears here much like how ARMS, Mario Tennis Aces and Mario Maker 2 appeared in the E3 2017-2019 highlight reels respectively)
• Around 30 minutes of Smash Ultimate (revealing the final 2 fighters and any extra content)

Then the new Switch revision and game lineup supporting it like BotW 2 gets announced in September. The rumours about the Microsoft stuff did say the Microsoft stuff would be announced in the fall so a gigantic September Direct sounds about right.

You know, I just thought Nintendo are charging £50-£60 for Labo. It's just a piece of cardboard😂😂😂!

@DannyBoi
LABO sold very drastic cheap in Indonesia currently. Maybe around US$15 - 20.
And LABO are not just a piece of cardboard.

@DannyBoi what’s with the obsession with Labo. It came out 3 years ago and you’re posting about it almost daily now.

@jump
I think dannyboi was really anxious with Direct and upcoming games.
Even there were some Direct revealed, he still keep being anxious.

Exactly. Indie games sell extremely well on Switch because they give us lots to play between big Nintendo releases... And Nintendo gets 30% of sales on each title sold. I highly doubt Nintendo would want to wreck that with GamePass...

I think the only way Nintendo would allow it would be for 1st party Microsoft titles only, anything 3rd party which could also be released on the eshop Nintendo won't want, unless Nintendo give them a good cut of the $$$.

@Clyde_Radcliffe you make it sound like there aren’t indies on Xbox or PC. The cloud model won’t even be picked that many people.

I do find it funny that people are thinking that if Switch has GamePass it will just turn all of the existing Nintendo gamers into Halo and Doom players and will not play anything else ;p

Yes and they sell a lot better on Switch than Xbox. Stardew Valley sold as much on Switch as the other two consoles combined. Every time I've seen indie sales percentages Switch is on top and often accounts for 50%+ of their sales.

@Clyde_Radcliffe so what you’re saying is the demand for indies is so strong on the Switch that some cloud GamePass games wouldn’t affect it. ;p

@DannyBoi That's like saying games are just pieces of plastic. Or worse still, digital games are just air!

@jump It's not funny. You have to think of the mainstream audience's attach rate (like MS did). I'm not the regular customer and anyone else chatting about this isn't either. But lets say there are 100,000 people on this thread discussing this as enthusisasts all drooling at the prospect of more games. As ridiculous as 100K people discussing this is, they would still only equate to about 0.1% of Switch owners. So lord alone knows what %age us lot are actually hahah! We are not the majority audience. And you run the risk of losing 99.9% of users to someone else's eco system. Especially if they only buy a couple of games. Cannot really disect it much clearer.

@GrailUK yeah it’s funny, Nintendo have enough trouble getting their gamers to try their own games that aren’t Mario and Zelda but the worry is that they will be converted into Halo fans overnight.

There’s no way there’s 100k people in this thread and I’m not really following how you made up those percentages or what they actually relate to regarding the narrative you’re tying to paint. I would post a Simpsons meme of people making up stats but you’ve probably seen it before and I can’t be arsed to find it. *

If the cloud based GamePass comes to pass (it probably won’t) Ninty aren’t going to lose 99.9% of their gamers as 99.9% don’t have the internet for it and the Switch’s hybrid nature means not everyone would take it up, and all that comes to pass before the individual’s taste who may not want it anyway.

*actually here it is

@jump Well, hey I'm still hoping Halo comes to Switch though hehe! Thanks for the chat I do hope you weren't reading my posts as angry or anything (I always get a bit worried about stuff like that!)