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link3710

@IceClimbers I was counting those two games as part of the holiday schedule, even if we don't know exact dates. That leaves (typically) two slots for release max: one November game (potentially, but double November releases are rare) and either an October title (could be anything) or a December title (usually something more blue ocean)

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Grumblevolcano

@link3710 Not quite, counting both of those would leave 1 slot as the slots not yet covered are early October, late October and early December. I think Bayonetta 3 will take the late October slot, Advance Wars takes the early December slot and Sparks of Hope gets delayed to early 2023 with the early October slot going to a remaster (leaning towards Zelda though Prime would fit if Prime 4 releases in 2023).

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link3710

@Grumblevolcano As I said, there's also the potential for a double November slot. 2019 had both Mario and Sonic and Pokemon SwSh in November, and 2021 had SMT V (a major exclusive) and Pokemon BDSP. I don't think it's likely, but we can't discount a 2019 style schedule with double September, October, and November releases.

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skywake

CANOEberry wrote:

Yes, there is something off-kilter right now about Nintendo's medium-term outlook. I still don't think that means we're getting a "Switch Pro" in the next two years, but you are absolutely correct that we have a lot of latitude to speculate meaningfully now, as we so rarely have.

I on the other hand very much DO think that the current slowdown of releases suggests new hardware might not be too far off. I've long been someone who's thought "Switch Pro" was going to be part of a smooth transition. I'm starting to now think we'll get a harder transition with multiple releases out of the gate not compatible with Switch. The lack of a clear medium term software lineup is a large part of me changing my view slightly on that, the continued extension of the life of the current Switch is the other half

Because Nintendo's goal IS to push Switch hardware/software sales as much as they can for the end of this year. If a hardware revision is on the cards soon but not this year? There's going to be not a lot to talk about right now. Because if they start talking "Switch 2" people are going to hold their cash and wait for that rather than buying into late-Switch this year. And if they don't work on content that pushes that new hardware they won't have as much to push its release

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kkslider5552000

Bolt_Strike wrote:

kkslider5552000 wrote:

This is almost certainly not true of the majority of video game sequels tbh.

Sooooooooooo tell me again why we're spending $60 on them if it's just the same experience all over again?

The only reasonable response to this is you should probably either avoid the majority of sequels or re-examine whether most of the entertainment you like are especially innovative by your own logic. The former is a completely reasonable decision, but if that's not it I'm begging you to do the latter.

I don't even think Splatoon 2 is an especially innovative or top tier sequel, I just found the expansion far more compelling a game than previous single player campaigns. I just think in general its a very normal sequels and people often like...reasonably safe sequels.

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Bolt_Strike

@skywake At the same time though, if they were trying to save games for new hardware, why are they so eager to push out Splatoon 3 and BotW2 right now? If new hardware was imminent, why would they be so gung ho on pushing them out on the Switch's twilight years instead of saving them for the launch of the new hardware? Doubly so when they're doing the opposite with Mario Kart and some people think they're doing the same with 3D Mario? There's definitely something weird with their strategy where it feels like the Switch is wrapping up in the next year or 2 and yet they're releasing big games that could keep it going for another 3 or 4.

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kkslider5552000 wrote:

Bolt_Strike wrote:

kkslider5552000 wrote:

This is almost certainly not true of the majority of video game sequels tbh.

Sooooooooooo tell me again why we're spending $60 on them if it's just the same experience all over again?

The only reasonable response to this is you should probably either avoid the majority of sequels or re-examine whether most of the entertainment you like are especially innovative by your own logic. The former is a completely reasonable decision, but if that's not it I'm begging you to do the latter.

I don't even think Splatoon 2 is an especially innovative or top tier sequel, I just found the expansion far more compelling a game than previous single player campaigns. I just think in general its a very normal sequels and people often like...reasonably safe sequels.

I already do avoid the majority of games and sequels that do little to change things up, so don't worry about me. But like... we're at a point where the kinds of "improvements" they make in sequels can just be done as DLC and the sequels themselves just feel like DLC of the last game, so I don't understand why people are okay with safe sequels like that. Feels like gamers should be pushing for more innovation and evolution in completely new games.

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skywake

@Bolt_Strike
At the same time the games left on the Switch's schedule are either games that have been in development for a long while OR are built on an existing engine. Often both. So if anything new hardware being just around the corner would be a good reason to push these titles out the door quickly

Also I know I just said I expect the Switch -> next thing transition to be much harder than I did a couple of years ago. But I still think it'll be a smoother transition than most new hardware releases. That is to say even if we get a Switch 2 I don't think they'll be selling two versions of BotW 2. It'll be one version that plays on both. It's just that now I expect we're at the point where there would be some games creeping in that won't be able to run on the OG Switch. And it's those games that are part of the bigger lineup we don't know about

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Mioaionios

Has there been any word if Nintendo Life will hold a live chat party during today's Direct here on the site like they usually do?

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Solaine

@Tremblucay Well, if they don't want to cover it, i doubt there will be a live chat party

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@Solaine
The one doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the other though.
Alex, Zion and Felix make YT videos. There's plenty of other NL staff that might host the chat.

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Solaine

@Tremblucay maybe, but there hasn't been any post on the livechat so far and it is only a little more than 2 hours away... but if you interpret the video like that, i guess there has been no definite answer
Edit. Nvm, its online and here after all

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Mioaionios

Absolutely loved the Xenoblade 3 Direct. OMG!

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Anti-Matter

I didn't watch xenoblade 3 direct as I have zero interest with that game, but I got very good news from Horse Tales trailer by Microids. 😄
One trailer by Microids that made me happy.

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Bolt_Strike

@skywake Yeah, but if they blow their load at the end of the Switch's lifespan, they'll stunt the growth of the new console at the expense of higher immediate sales for the Switch. Which isn't a very smart plan. Part of the reason the Switch was so wildly successful is because they saved big games for its launch year, if they want the new console to be similarly successful they'll want to repeat that strategy. Games like BotW2 and Splatoon 3 would've been better saved for that launch year to get people to buy the new console.

So you expect the Switch's transition to the new console to be kind of like the 3DS -> Switch transition or Microsoft and Sony's last two hardware transitions? Yeah, I fully expect that as well. That's the best way to handle it when the Switch is so wildly successful, you don't want to drop that momentum all at once, you want the Switch to be gradually phased out while the new console picks up steam.

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Grumblevolcano

@skywake @Bolt_Strike I think it comes down to Metroid Prime 4. Given they didn't cancel the Wii U version of BotW, I don't see them cancelling the Switch version of Metroid Prime 4 so I think the release timing of it will give an idea about when the crossgen period will end (I still think the hardware will launch with BotW 2 so there would be some sort of crossgen period).

Both the MK8 Deluxe and XC3 DLC is complete by the end of 2023 so a Metroid Prime 4 2023 release would suggest to me that 2024 would be when the new hardware only releases begin for example.

As for the online focused titles recently (Switch Sports, Mario Strikers, Splatoon 3), I think it's do with the subscription side of things. It's important to remember that March 3rd 2017 - September 17th 2018 was free online (the vast majority of Splatoon 2's content was released before NSO went live), when the next Nintendo hardware releases paid online will be a thing from the start so releasing online focused games just for the new system early on in the system's lifespan will hurt the playerbase unless they go the FTP route.

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@korosanbo To be fair though it isn't impossible. They did have a Monster Hunter Direct when Rise came out iirc

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