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NintendoWife

@link3710 Yeah I agree that any big Direct is going to be mostly about titles for the following year. Plus 1-2 nice new things for this year, I would expect. But I’m less concerned about these holidays - it’s a weak year as far as I am concerned, but not unprecedentedly so (and it’s kinda my problem if what Nintendo releases is not to my taste). What’s more urgent is the missing outlook, the big ones to look forward to, the surprises. That’s what you’d typically get once a year at E3, and why imo they can’t go without a Direct for much longer.

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CANOEberry

NintendoWife wrote:

the current drought or silence + Zelda delay made me uncertain. Normally if they really meant it they’d have to give an outlook, including some big mainline games for the next 2 years or so.

Yes, there is something off-kilter right now about Nintendo's medium-term outlook. I still don't think that means we're getting a "Switch Pro" in the next two years, but you are absolutely correct that we have a lot of latitude to speculate meaningfully now, as we so rarely have. Unless they really do release a Direct in a week's time, we will be going through a period unlike any other in the Switch's lifetime. It may simply mean that their promotion strategy has changed, but I think there is more to this. They've been staffing up in Kyoto and in Austin, and they've been keeping up a fairly good pace since late 2017. I feel certain that there's more than one factor at play here...

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Grumblevolcano

@NintendoWife Though the past 2 E3 Directs (2019 and 2021) that was only BotW 2 and we already got an update on that game in March (delayed to Spring 2023) so I wouldn't expect more info until September.

There were other Nintendo releases that were outside that year but the nature of the these releases doesn't seem to be what you're talking about:

  • Animal Crossing New Horizons (was scheduled for 2019 but the E3 2019 Direct confirmed a delay to March 2020)
  • Advance Wars 1+2 Re-Boot Camp (was scheduled for December 2021 in the E3 2021 Direct but got delayed twice, the 2nd one being delayed indefinitely)
  • Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope (was announced at Ubisoft's E3 2021 showcase, the Direct presence was just repeating what was announced then)

So while what you describe was accurate of E3 before 2019, it's much less so for 2019 and 2021. BotW 2 feels like the whole carrot on a stick thing as Nintendo prepares for new hardware.

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Anti-Matter

Recently, I didn't really look for upcoming 1st party Nintendo games as I only like certain Nintendo franchises and I don't even care for the Nintendo franchises I have no interest at all.
So I like to wait any kiddie cartoonish games from the trailer and mostly from 3rd party games since I prefer 3rd party games with more diversity in genre, gameplay ideas and character design.

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Mioaionios
Apparently Nintendo Life won't be covering this Xenoblade Direct, which makes me sad.
Are they also not going to cover a Zelda BotW2 Direct when one airs a month before release because of possible spoilers?
I somehow doubt that. 🤔

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Grumblevolcano

@Tremblucay The video states spoilers is just 1 of the reasons, they're also overwhelmed with content to cover. Makes sense given Sunbreak alone is probably like 50 hours for the main content and that's just 1 expansion which releases at the end of an extremely packed month of games.

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Mioaionios

@Grumblevolcano
Do you think they wouldn't cover a general Direct either because of "lack of time"?
Yeah... no, I don't buy that.

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StarPoint

@Tremblucay Well, a general Direct is MUCH more major than a Direct for a single game. Besides, there will likely be several other sites covering the Direct.

I personally don't care about the decision at all since I'm not interested in Xenoblade. I understand not wanting to be spoiled on anything and having a ton of stuff to cover as well. Something like a general Direct is much more important to cover since it reaches a much wider audience.

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Grumblevolcano

@Tremblucay You're assuming that's an outcome that would happen though. Nintendo times general Directs such that games get their time in the spotlight, if the XC3 Direct was instead a general Direct the huge amount of stuff releasing over the next week would get buried by stuff like the next MK8 Deluxe DLC.

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Mioaionios

I might have been a bit too harsh with my reaction on their decision to not cover the Xenoblade Direct.
I'm sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings, especially those of the crew.

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IceClimbers

@link3710 I'm not sure I agree with their holiday schedule being full. Splatoon 3 launches at the beginning of September and then Pokemon launches in mid-November. There's a pretty big gap between the two with nothing dated, and they could easily slot in anywhere from 1 to 3 releases. Gut feeling says it's just Bayonetta 3 and maybe Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope though.

@NintendoWife Splatoon 3 and Pokemon S/V are pretty major releases with widespread appeal that are coming in the near future. They have BotW2 and Metroid Prime 4 as their "outlook" titles, which for them is enough. Nintendo doesn't really like to reveal things far in advance for the most part, and instead will reveal games only a few months before launch.

We didn't know about Switch Sports, Mario Strikers, FE Warriors Three Hopes, Live a Live, or Xenoblade 3 before the February Direct for example.

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Bolt_Strike

Yeah, I think part of the problem this year is that they're relying on a lot of niche IPs to drive sales throughout the second half of the year (first half had some good ones like Legends Arceus and Kirby, but the second half feels barren of some of the bigger titles). Games like Xenoblade, Fire Emblem (and even regular old Fire Emblem is fairly niche, this is a spinoff), Bayonetta, and Mario + Rabbids aren't exactly crowd pleasers, none of those IPs have really sold more than 1-2 million (main series Fire Emblem cracked 3 million with Three Houses, but Three Hopes is probably not going to crack 2 million, maybe not even sell 1 million, based on how the first FEW game sold). So there's a large portion of the fanbase that just doesn't really care about the lineup. There is Splatoon 3 and Pokemon Scarlet/Violet for the more mainstream which is something, but Splatoon 3 has also been divisive because it seems like it's going to feel more like a 2.5 than a 3 (although it'll still probably sell at least 7 or 8 million). It feels like we could use at least one more game that's a little more mainstream, like a smaller Zelda title to tide us over until BotW2, that DK game that's been rumored for ages, hell even the Metroid Prime Trilogy/remake would probably outsell most of these games (Dread's sold close to 3 million and will probably have passed it by the next sales report, Prime could sell similar numbers). It just feels like the year could use one more big game, and maybe something else to get excited for for 2023.

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sisodinr

Whenever (let's be real, IF) we get a Nintendo Direct, I'm hoping it includes a Tunic-coming-to-Switch announcement.

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RR529

Tremblucay wrote:

Apparently Nintendo Life won't be covering this Xenoblade Direct, which makes me sad.
Are they also not going to cover a Zelda BotW2 Direct when one airs a month before release because of possible spoilers?
I somehow doubt that. 🤔

Yeah, that's... incredibly dumb.

I understand I'm ignorant of what goes on behind the scenes, but this is the biggest release on the system within the next 2 or so months. I know Sunbreak is coming soon (and Live A Live), but what else is going on around now that they think should take priority over coverage of a large scope first party release, the deluge of indie games announced for the system in the last couple weeks?

I don't think you'd ever see Push Square or Pure Xbox push aside coverage of a big first party game for anything else.

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@Bolt_Strike
If you go with that argument for Splatoon 3, you should say it's Splatoon "2" instead. Splatoon 2 was considered a "1.5" by people already.
Just saying. ;P

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Bolt_Strike

@Budda Not really, if Splatoon 2 is Splatoon 1.5, then Splatoon 3 is more like 1.75. A 1.5 to 2 would still feel like a proper evolution and we haven't had one.

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kkslider5552000

Bolt_Strike wrote:

2 would still feel like a proper evolution

This is almost certainly not true of the majority of video game sequels tbh.

And even if it was true, there is a Splatoon 2, its called the Octo Expansion. A genuine improved, creative sequel, leagues better and more interesting than Splatoon 2's actual campaign.

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Bolt_Strike

kkslider5552000 wrote:

This is almost certainly not true of the majority of video game sequels tbh.

Sooooooooooo tell me again why we're spending $60 on them if it's just the same experience all over again?

kkslider5552000 wrote:

And even if it was true, there is a Splatoon 2, its called the Octo Expansion. A genuine improved, creative sequel, leagues better and more interesting than Splatoon 2's actual campaign.

In terms of game structure maybe, in terms of gameplay and level design, not really. It's pretty much just been same old Splatoon the entire time with different levels and weapons.

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