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DenDen

PCkid wrote:

To all of those who declared me "crazy" last week.

We know it by now, yes technical the game has a lot of problems (switch the worst)
But behind al of that the game is good, fantastic even give them some time and they wil patch it.

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Zuljaras

I can confirm that the Switch is the worst of all. They should be ashamed by printing such crashfest on the cartridge.

And what is the excuse? "We will patch it later, everything will be ok." Go sit in the corner with EA and Bethesda pls.

Zuljaras

PCkid

@Zuljaras

I ask myself the same question.
How you can objectively put on the market a game IN THIS STATE and ON PURPOSE, move the launch date an entire week later ?

The answer is simple : They wanted to get good reviews first and then put the Switch version on the market BECAUSE Switch games sell like crazy and then, who cares if the Switch version of the game is crappy ?
The important thing for them was to sell and nothing else. :/

It's clearly an unscrupulous and disgusting way to treat the Switch owners.

I just hope that the "Switch community" will send a strong signal to the Iga Team and 505 games by not buying the game on Switch.

PS : BTW, how come there is no review of the game on Switch ?

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BruceCM

Beaten final boss.... Going to do the last couple of locked rooms & any other bits of map

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BruceCM

Switch one, @NintendoByNature. ... No crashes, no major bugs or glitches

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EvilLucario

Digital Foundry's review.

TL;DR:
PS4: 1080p, mostly 60fps but dips here and there but can dip to 50fps in demanding areas
Xbox One: 900p, same overall framerate as PS4
PS4 Pro: 1080p (?????) with some weird upscaling that doesn't work, almost consistent 60fps with only minor dips
Xbox One X: 4K, middle ground between PS4 and PS4 Pro for framerate
Switch: 720p docked, 576p handheld, consistent 30fps, 140ms input delay, sometimes very long loading times upwards to 10 seconds
All console versions: Crashes aplenty, especially when reading books, and an endgame boss can dip performance to 20fps on PS4 and PS4 Pro (other consoles not tested due to lack of time)

Damn, console performance is even worse than I thought. It runs mostly flawless for me on PC, although that same endgame boss mentioned in the video actually tanked my framerate from 120fps to 30-40fps. It's a HUGE frame killer.

That said, the video basically echoed my thoughts on the Switch version in its lower graphical fidelity and framerate, and the bad input lag. That input lag is roughly the same as like 4 frames, which is HUGE for a 2D action-platformer. But overall, they're actually more lenient on the graphics overall, but still give criticism to the input lag. All made in the right places imo.

I do wish John can go crazy and see if certain shards like Thrashing Tentacle could kill more frames though. Maybe I'll give that a shot in the more demanding areas.

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NintendoByNature

@BruceCM good to hear. Surprised it's been such a mixed bag of reviews from people for the switch version

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BruceCM

Dunno, I hope they can sort those out, though.... Done last few bits until the dlc

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OmegaDestroyer

What a mess. I'm glad I held off on backing or preordering the game on Switch.

I'm very curious if NL is going to review it anytime soon or wait until a patch is released. I think it's dishonest to hold off on releasing games due to fears of negative reviews. On the same token, I think it's unhelpful to wait to review games until they are patched.

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DenDen

Shame of the performance issues game itself is great!

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1 secret of mana
2 majoras mask
3 breath of the Wild
4 final fantasy 9
5 Octopath traveler
6 Lufia II
7 super mario world
8 bravely default
9 pikmin 2
10 Diddy kong racing

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NintendoByNature

We still don't have an idea of when updates are coming do we? Payday tomorrow and I'm considering stopping at the store on the way home to grab it

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OmegaDestroyer

They don't really have a great incentive to rush to fix anything at this point. Thanks to the week delay, most review sites focuses on the Xbox/PS4/PC versions and gave the game glowing reviews. When the Switch version was released, the sites commented on its sorry state but didn't update any reviews to reflect it, so it wasn't very damaging. So really, what's the incentive to rush any patching on the Switch version? They have the Kickstarter backers' money. They are in the process of fulfillment for physical backers and the digital backers have an (inferior) copy of the game.

The sad reality of it all is that the Switch version always was and remains a very low priority to the developers. No amount of lame apologies will convince me otherwise. I was seriously considering getting this game but after PAX, decided to wait for reviews. I'm thankful I did. It's unlikely I will ever get it at this point. Why should I support a developer who throws out a half-assed port to fans eager for scrapes of Castlevania?

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OmegaDestroyer

Tsurii

@OmegaDestroyer the switch version is outselling both the Xbox and ps4 version at least 2:1 in the UK. If that wasn't their priority, they damn well should be making it one at this point because I doubt the sales look like that only in the UK, aka one of Nintendo's weaker markets afaik

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@Tsurii Something tells me that PC outsold the Switch version regardless, since PC runs the game like a dream compared to consoles. Regardless it's cool that we're getting better sales for a game on a Nintendo platform compared to others, but for such a compromised version... it doesn't sit well.

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glaemay

@OmegaDestroyer The other versions have random crash too and don't run too well. Yet it didn't hurt their reviews because they understand a small budget made with a new team can need some fixing patches after release since game testing is a very long and hard task. The Switch audience isn't corporate enough and can bash small budget games for small flaws even if they're good. The Switch audience really needs to lower their standards and fit with the other audience if they want good third party support.

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Zuljaras

After watching Digital Foundry video of RotN and played PS4 and Switch versions I could easily say:
Console versions of the game:

  • Xbox One X version is the best looking.
  • PS4 Pro version is the best all around both in visuals and performance.
  • The Switch version is the absolute garbage of this particular game unfortunately.

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GauBan

@Zuljaras I've played Bloodstained on all console platforms. Yeah the Switch is a massive downgrade (without taking into account the other bugs)

But I feel that when playing the game the PS4 Pro beats the Xbox One X version. There is just something about the water on the Xbox X makes it off. Something that the PS4 Pro doesn't have.

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Zuljaras

@GauBan Probably but I think that the PS4 version is 1080p and the Xbox One X is native 4K ?

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GauBan

@Zuljaras Yeah PS4 Pro runs at 1080p with up-scaling to 4K. Yeah the Xbox One X is trying to output 4K. A few parts seemed to drop below. But it still still working on the higher resolution.

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