Topic: For the last time, Nintendo will not release a 4k console this year, and not anytime soon.

@teo_o
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Uh, we're just talking man. Exactly like your post says. Spitballing. Shootin' the bull. Conjecturing. I haven't seen anyone imposing their views on me yet, but I'll keep an eye out for it lol

There'd be no point having 4k for handheld display.... Someone around these forums covered the sort of size display where you can actually see the difference between full HD & 4k
1st, get the performance up to where games already on Switch can manage the current resolutions with consistent framerates

@sixrings exactly, they know what they're talking about.
@BruceCM yes it would cost way too much and it would drain the battery like crazy. Nintendo it's not famous for updating their handhelds with the latest and craziest specs. not comparable to smartphones at least. PSP tended to be the sleekest compared. But it was recently confirmed that the famous photoshopped oval NX with holes in the screen was actually an existing idea inside nintendo, so dipending on the supplier it could have been a crazy good screen, who knows.

There have been phones with 4K screens on the market for a number of years, so the technology is already here. They're just overkill for most purposes and you're not likely to get the sort of rendering power required for a modern AAA game at those resolutions for some years yet.

I'd think that the next iteration of the Switch just needs to take a baby step in the right direction and give better performance at 720/1080p.

I get the feeling that the Switch and Switch Lite is where Nintendo is at for another 2 to 3 years at least. I don't see the current switch/switch lite market dying off anytime soon so no need for a new console yet.

Nintendo will release Red Blue Mario edition for Switch bundle on this year so i don't think there will be Switch Pro or whatever its name on this year.

Yeah, I'm not saying they won't do any upgrade, @teo_o .... Potentially, they could (for instance) have a more powerful dock to do 4k for TV mode? Just that since currently there's games that can't manage the top resolution & that do have problems with frame rates, there's room for improvement there before anything else is done

They should release a Switch with proper sticks, and not ones that break every time.

@BruceCM I believe there's been articles about this years ago but for some tech reason the usb c on the bottom of the switch would not be able to be compatible with a more powerful dock... I should search it up but people keep bringing up a more powerful dock but the tech people have gone through this and believe its impossible for whatever reason.

@BruceCM i completely agree. @sixrings i'm ignorant on the specifics of the mariko soc, it would be interesting to know if it has some sort of bus predisposition similar to pcie not yet exploited by nintendo. i'm sure nvidia can make something ad hoc.
@Octane funny how proper analog sticks are expected in the "pro" discussion. 😩 nintendo...

I have around an 80" 4K set, and the Switch looks great on it. For that matter, so do Blu Rays. Standard DVDs don't look quite as good but are still acceptable considering that it's presenting the image at 10x the resolution of the disc. I suppose it all depends on how good your TV is at upscaling a lower resolution image.

Oh, OK, I'm not really a tech expert & hadn't seen that, @sixrings .... I seem to remember it isn't a standard usb-c, which was why unofficial docks had problems with it, though? I certainly don't think any upgraded Switch would be a lot more powerful or anything, anyway

A "Switch Pro" at this point in the Switch's life cycle would most likely resemble the New 3DS which offered only a modest increase in performance. I think the most notable feature of the New 3DS was the eye tracking which automatically adjusted the parallax of the display to keep you in the 3D sweet spot.

@BruceCM 25% more power might not seem like a lot but would help significantly to get Nintendo’s 900p resolution to 1080p.

@Mountain_Man This is the interesting part of the discussion to me, because of course many 4k TVs do their own upscaling (once they receive the image, adding lag, so i keep it off), and most importantly anyone who buys or appreciates nintendo does not so because of the crispy pristine graphics.
I think we all agree on this.
My take, and i could be wrong, is that nintendo could be interested in DLSS mostly for the general benefits, rather than specifically for outputting a 4k signal, which would be a nice plus when docked. Digital Foundry did an experiment with Wolfenstein, comparing the lowest PC specs upscaled with DLSS and the switch version of the game, with the added blurriness to smooth out 360/480p video signal, and although the comparison isn't necessarily realistic (they admit the lowest setting on PC wouldn't run on switch), it serves in highlighting how DLSS does well in visual clarity, and as a subsitute for anti aliasing (and we know AA has its history with nintendo).
EDIT: added video reference since i keep mentioning it

Holy Crud this blew up far more than I expected it too

Ignoring the "4K" bit which I suspect it will be but more as a marketing bullet point. Remember they marketed the PS4/XBOne as 4K and the PS3/360 as 1080p. Your main point here is actually an argument for the idea of a Switch Pro not against it. As you said, it's a task for Devs to get even super well optimised modern titles like Doom Eternal running on the Switch. But wouldn't a higher spec revision of the Switch would make that task easier. We're a good 4 years out from the Switch launch, and almost two years since their silent revision. I'd argue you'd be a fool for thinking another revision isn't a possibility.

Also I haven't read through all the posts in this thread but there are things outside of more processing power that the Switch is now behind on. Yes 4K output, not a huge deal given the processing power of the Switch but also HDR from HDMI 2.0+ and VRR from HDMI 2.1+. There's also a potential significant reductions in power draw when running lower intensity titles. Not unlike what we saw with the Switch v2 and Switch Lite. Others have mentioned DLSS which again is something that they could leverage which wasn't an option in 2017.

In a similar vein the Switch was also a bit stingy on storage even when it launched, given the reduction in cost of flash they could release one now with 256GB easily. Remember the Wii U also launched with a 32GB SKU in 2012 so there's a LOT of room there. There is also a newer revision of WiFi, 802.11ax or WiFi 6, which brings with it significant reductions in latency.

There are also some very easy wins they could have from a new SKU. The dock doesn't have an Ethernet jack, yes you can get a dongle for almost nothing but having a wired connection built into the dock would cost them almost nothing. They don't support bluetooth headphones which I couldn't care less about personally but is increasingly a sore point for most people I think. That one could almost be a firmware update but. Also the lack of a DD surround output option locks out surround for a lot of people with soundbars.

Man this is going to be a good year and I can’t wait.

I am still amazed how NintenDoomed seems to always stick to 4k portable when the rumors never mentioned that but that it was rumored to 1080p portable. How does one go from rumor 4K DOCKED to becoming 4K Portable. This tells me the koolaid party must've been spiked with russian vodka to make it taste so refreshing. Alot of release for what they are worth with more graphics is looking at March 26 and you have to wonder why such a odd date being mention for certain games for? It's 4 years but a new Switch xX isn't going to split or stop development rather it would fuel more Developers to come aboard and make more Switch games and could include build in to work with v1, v2 or vX when it arrives. And I for one think that will be sooner then later. If everyone was like that why would there be a PS5 when PS4 was good enough. No one seems to complain when that happens but when Switch goes 4K then all the TROLLs are out in full force against it saying it's not about graphics but they should stayed with dated Tech. Hate to burst your troll farms but Tech moves on and if you don't want the latest Switch that your choice to make. But trying to think you think for Nintendo whom doesn't follow convenient rules to your ideology that is the saddest part postings here. V1, V2, and Vx can co-exist without problem but people seems to want to discredited because it doesn't fit their tidy ideals of what Nintendo should and shouldn't do-but fail to mentioned they don't think or work for R&D Nintendo in the end.

@SwitchForce clearly the switch pro is 4K native portable and native 8k docked. Now you’re playing with power.