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Topic: For the last time, Nintendo will not release a 4k console this year, and not anytime soon.

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GrailUK

There certainly seems to be demand for some sort of DLSS dock type thing for folk with better TVs than mine hehe.

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VoidofLight

I feel like a 4K switch wouldn't do so well in portable mode. If they ended up making one, it'd probably be only a home console, due to one factor. Battery life. The Battery on the switch wouldn't probably last long if it was a 4K handheld device. It barely lasts long enough on it's own to begin with, at least until they did the revision for it.

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kkslider5552000

4K Switch should literally never happen until it comes with a battery life at least better than the original release of the Switch tbh.

If this lead the Switch to having a stupidly long life cycle or Switch 2 doesn't have 4K at launch, I still 100% reject anyone that says otherwise.

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@VoidofLight @kkslider5552000 most people think the switch pro would only be 4K upscaled while docked only. The Xbox one s couldn’t run native 4K games but it could upscale games. That is what most people think of the pro. Not true native 4K. All of this people generally think is only in docked mode.

While portable the pro would aim for 1080p. Therefore all your battery concerns are looked after. The battery will be just fine with a more efficient cpu gpu.

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Mr-Fuggles777

@sixrings the issue with that is Cost and the fact Nintendo refuses to sell a console at a loss.
The Series S targets 1440 and can upscale to 4k for £250. A switch Pro that upscale to 4k while docked will likely be in the £400+ price range putting it in direct competition with the true 4k consoles
Secondly, if you need to keep it tethered to a TV to get the most out it, the console loses the whole point in being a hybrid and "switchable" between a docked and undocked experience.

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I think it would be cool if nintendo trid to catch up to curent tech. the issue however is that nintendo dosn't care bc they know people will buy there games, so its probably not going to happen.

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jump

@Snatcher I wouldn't say it quite like that, Nintendo emphasizes being a family company so they don't want expensive consoles in fear of pricing out people hence the less techy machines to keep them cheap. It's something Ninty have always done even back in the Game & Watch days when the idea was to re-purpose a calculator.

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@jump Ya. ''the money is allways right'' (Mr. Krabs)

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sixrings

@jump @Mr-Fuggles777

the one s could upscale. This has been around since before the Xbox series consoles. Also the nvidia shield tv pro does include upscaling and is cheaper than the current switch. There’s ways to do this without the switch pro costing a fortune.

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jump

@sixrings I'm not really sure why I was tagged in your response, I'm not really touching the 4K argument besides some side comments as I find the spec stuff boring to be honest.

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Mr-Fuggles777

@sixrings we shall see but unless it's a substantial update I cant see many people buying a slightly updated Switch.
I for one won't be buying a new switch unless it's at least comparable with the XsS, as in it can handle ports of the current gen games. I don't see the point in buying a new console to play PS4/Xb1 era ports.

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rallydefault

Yea, 4k isn't happening for the first Switch. PS4 Pro didn't even do actual 4k, as far as I know. Switch Pro will do checkerboarding, and that's fine.

Also, who says the Pro will be a new Switch you have to buy for 300 or 400 bucks? It could just be an upgraded dock for 100 bucks or something. We know the processor still has room to be amped up, and a creative dock with a better cooling solution could maybe do the trick. As a PC builder, it's amazing what you can crank out of your rig if you just provide better cooling. And this Tegra processor is now... gosh, how old? At least five years, maybe six? Just like a CPU or GPU in a PC, software and parameter tweaks just get better and better the longer something is being worked with.

@Mr-Fuggles777
I'm sorry, but the argument about Nintendo wanting to avoid "not switching" lost all value when they released the Switch Lite, a Switch that literally can't switch.

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sixrings

@jump “ Nintendo emphasizes being a family company so they don't want expensive consoles in fear of pricing out people hence the less techy machines to keep them cheap.”

I tagged you because my comment shows that Nintendo can make a new switch without it necessarily costing much more. Tech is always getting cheaper

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@Mr-Fuggles777 well then you’ll be waiting for the switch 2. But Xbox one x and ps4 pro proved their are people who are willing to pay extra money for their current software to run better.

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Mr-Fuggles777

@sixrings the PS4 Pro was only £350 at launch (as sales of the base and slim models had started to dwindle) and was one of the first 4k capable consoles. It was also a significant improvement over what was already available.
Hopefully Nintendo sorts something out, but I personally don't think we will see a Switch 1.5 while the base unit is still flying off the shelves.

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jump

@sixrings I never said otherwise. I was just replying to a comment about Nintendo not caring about tech but rather caring about affordability than commenting on the talk of a upscaled Shield New Series Pro Imax 4kfps HD expansion pack.

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Magician

Power consumption is at the forefront of Nintendo's design concerning whatever form the Switch revision and/or Switch successor will take. If you want a better portable gaming experience you could opt for one of the Tiger Lake laptops out of China. But for triple the cost of a Switch and a battery life of around two hours.

Even though the power consumption for DLSS is low (6w), I feel it would tax a Switch's battery life too much for Nintendo to consider it an option in portable mode. So unless Nintendo offers 4k upscaling via a dock upgrade, I don't believe 4k gaming will be available to Nintendo fans for several more years.

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rallydefault

@Mr-Fuggles777
PS4 Pro was not 4k capable unless you're just talking about video playback. It upscaled and checkerboarded.

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teo_o

It amazes me how this posts can go on and on without people actually reading them through.
I would like to remind everyone that the editorial staff of digital foundry at eurogamer was responsible for actually telling everyone on the internet in advance what the NX was all about in the summer of 2016, because they actually have insiders like professional journalists once had.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-07-26-nx-is-a-portabl...
That being said, it's fun to debate and speculate on this site, but i don't pretend to impose my opinion on others, i tend to trust those that know more than me, like, you know, the people at digital foundry. So if digital foundry says that a switch revision with DLSS is possible i say "awesome". does it mean IT HAS TO come out this year? no, but it's a realistic hypothesis nontheless.

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sixrings

@teo_o they also knew about Xbox releasing the series s this generation before anyone else knew and made theoretical 4teraflops videos showing what such a system could look like months before.

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