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Topic: Why is it that it's okay when Nintendo forcefully removes a emulater

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ignrulzover9000

For example Nintendo forced GBA4IOS off Github. Yes, Apple does similar stuff but it doesn't make Nintendo look better. Also, some of you may say that emulation is copyright infringement and therefore illegal. However keep in mind that the ruling of Lewis Galoob Toys, Inc. v. Nintendo of America, Inc states it's not copyright infringement as long as it's from a legally purchased copy and so far, that ruling has not been overturned.

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CaviarMeths

Have you read the lawsuit? Nintendo sued Galoob over manufacturing of the Game Genie. It was ruled that altering code of a game you own a legal copy of was not copyright infringement. The Game Genie was a device used to do exactly that. Users could alter code of a game that they legally owned. Emulators like GBA4IOS are not used for this purpose. They are used for software piracy. Nobody uses an emulator to play the ROM file they made of their legal Pokemon game cartridge.

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LzWinky

Yeah, while emulators may not be illegal by themselves, their main purpose is for illegal activity.

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CaviarMeths

TingLz wrote:

Yeah, while emulators may not be illegal by themselves, their main purpose is for illegal activity.

Even that may be debatable. The hardware is copyrighted and digital distribution of it should require some form of license.

ignrulzover9000 wrote:

What "illegal activity"?

It is not legal to create and distribute digital copies of copyrighted material.

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LzWinky

@CaviarMeths: Copyright infringement, patent infringement and trademark infringement. Yes, it's illegal to distribute

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Nintendo_Ninja

Buy games, don't play emulations that give the creators nothing for their hard work. It's Nintendo's stuff, so they can take it away from people who are using it without buying it.

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ignrulzover9000

"Their main purpose is for illegal purpose"

So playing older games that you can't buy or even find on your PC is illegal? Also again, it's legal if it's from a copy that you bought legitimately.

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Nintendo_Ninja

That one copy someone bought paves the way for millions of free ones and lost sales.

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LzWinky

ignrulzover9000 wrote:

"Their main purpose is for illegal purpose"

So playing older games that you can't buy or even find on your PC is illegal? Also again, it's legal if it's from a copy that you bought legitimately.

Technically yes, it is. Also, pirating is a thing as well.

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CaviarMeths

ignrulzover9000 wrote:

"Their main purpose is for illegal purpose"

So playing older games that you can't buy or even find on your PC is illegal? Also again, it's legal if it's from a copy that you bought legitimately.

Nintendo's games aren't passing into public domain any time this century.

And not that the point you made about the lawsuit is any more applicable now than it was 15 minutes ago, but obviously if you "can't buy or even find" a copy of the game, you don't own a legal copy.

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10-zx

ignrulzover9000 wrote:

"Their main purpose is for illegal purpose"

So playing older games that you can't buy or even find on your PC is illegal? Also again, it's legal if it's from a copy that you bought legitimately.

Yes...yes by all means it is. There's the Wii Shop Channel, the 3DS/Wii U eShop, and if they don't have it, you can actually buy a system and that game and play it how it was supposed to be and is better played like. Not to mention the hundreds of other games in that system's library you just opened yourself up to. I would buy a system and game and play it like that, and give the money to some guy who already gave the money to Nintendo in the past, now granted it doesn't give money to Nintendo, but nor does illegal emulation. Decide what's better, illegal piracy (which is going against the state), or a console that will last years, upon years, upon years, of enjoyment and reliability. If you still choose piracy, you are honestly stupid, and the government will likely agree.

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Nintendo_Ninja wrote:

That one copy someone bought paves the way for millions of free ones and lost sales.

Do you have any proof emulation had any impact on game sales?

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Gridatttack

Its common sense.

Even if the game sold well, the loss was the more profit it could have gained.

Case and point with the DS pokemon games.
Everyone was waiting like a dog for the anti piracy patch to come, and that thread was usually the one most visited and commented.
Those thousands of people would have bought the game too if they couldn't get it for free.

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10-zx

ignrulzover9000 wrote:

Nintendo_Ninja wrote:

That one copy someone bought paves the way for millions of free ones and lost sales.

Do you have any proof emulation had any impact on game sales?

Emulation only has impact on game sales when they are current, such as Mario Kart Wii, also the same given game if it is on the eShop, but if it is, say, Mother 2, It doesn't matter if Nintendo doesn't lose any money from it or not, it is still illegal. Usually when it comes to these subjects, going by your own opinions, rather than the force of the law, is, dare I say it, stupid. Don't be stupid, we already have too many stupid people laying around. I'd advise you not to join the stupid people, as, that would be, stupid.

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Kaze_Memaryu

Gridatttack wrote:

Its common sense.

Even if the game sold well, the loss was the more profit it could have gained.

Case and point with the DS pokemon games.
Everyone was waiting like a dog for the anti piracy patch to come, and that thread was usually the one most visited and commented.
Those thousands of people would have bought the game too if they couldn't get it for free.

Problem is, that's sometimes hard to determine. Some people might only be interested in some games to begin with simply because they CAN pirate them, while others decide to risk the purchase. Nobody can tell, so the "loss" is hypothetical, just like with the music industry.

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LzWinky

ignrulzover9000 wrote:

Nintendo_Ninja wrote:

That one copy someone bought paves the way for millions of free ones and lost sales.

Do you have any proof emulation had any impact on game sales?

PSP

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Kaze_Memaryu wrote:

Gridatttack wrote:

Its common sense.

Even if the game sold well, the loss was the more profit it could have gained.

Case and point with the DS pokemon games.
Everyone was waiting like a dog for the anti piracy patch to come, and that thread was usually the one most visited and commented.
Those thousands of people would have bought the game too if they couldn't get it for free.

Problem is, that's sometimes hard to determine. Some people might only be interested in some games to begin with simply because they CAN pirate them, while others decide to risk the purchase. Nobody can tell, so the "loss" is hypothetical, just like with the music industry.

The entertainment industry is tricky isn't it?

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ignrulzover9000

Dolphin64 wrote:

ignrulzover9000 wrote:

"Their main purpose is for illegal purpose"

So playing older games that you can't buy or even find on your PC is illegal? Also again, it's legal if it's from a copy that you bought legitimately.

Yes...yes by all means it is. There's the Wii Shop Channel, the 3DS/Wii U eShop, and if they don't have it, you can actually buy a system and that game and play it how it was supposed to be and is better played like. Not to mention the hundreds of other games in that systems library you just opened yourself up to. I would buy a system and game and play it like that, and give the money to some guy who already gave the money to Nintendo in the past, now granted it doesn't give money to Nintendo, but nor does illegal emulation. Decide what's better, illegal piracy (which is going against the state), or a console that will last years, upon years, upon years, of enjoyment and reliability. If you still choose piracy, you are honestly stupid, and the government will likely agree.

The early CD rom consoles (especially the ps one) are often very unreliable. Also some consoles like the 3do are very expensive and rare and so are certain games (especially rpgs).

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