Personally I find that the controls get better with each 3D entry, with Odyssey > Galaxy > Sunshine >>> 64. 64 is the only one I really have any issue with, but it's still totally playable.
@jump@Snatcher Luigi's Mansion wasn't entirely new like Pikmin and Chibi-Robo were, and at the time I mainly thought of it as a spin-off of the Super Mario franchise rather than something new. Beyond that, it took over a decade before Luigi's Mansion had a follow up. In that time, Pikmin had a sequel and a third game set for the Wii U and Chibi-Robo had two sequels on the Nintendo DS. Chibi-Robo sits at 5 games, Pikmin at 4 and Luigi's Mansion is at 3. The shortest time between LM games is a little over 6 years. It's an IP that has not had a stride yet.
"The secret to ultimate power lies in the Alimbic Cluster."
Fair, but Smash Bros understands the basic logic of why multiple buttons are on controllers, so it evens out. (I love Kirby Air Ride, but that's very much despite the Balan Wonderland control scheme)
Beyond that, it took over a decade before Luigi's Mansion had a follow up. In that time, Pikmin had a sequel and a third game set for the Wii U and Chibi-Robo had two sequels on the Nintendo DS. Chibi-Robo sits at 5 games, Pikmin at 4 and Luigi's Mansion is at 3. The shortest time between LM games is a little over 6 years. It's an IP that has not had a stride yet.
The saying quality over quantity exists for a reason ;p
I find it mental that Ninty turned those two into 2D platformers, it was at a time when they were releasing so many other legit great ones (and other meh ones) that it was almost like Ninty wanted them to flop so they could point to that to kill those games off for good.
I don't really enjoy Nintendo games anymore. I did when I was younger because they were actually challenging back then. Now they are all easy peasy and lead you by the hand. I bought my Switch to play everything but Nintendo games for the most part.
@PoliticallyIncorrect I recommend you try donkey Kong tropical freeze if you have not yet. It probably the best 2d platformer ever made (well Celeste is a masterpiece too) and really challenging.
Beyond that, it took over a decade before Luigi's Mansion had a follow up. In that time, Pikmin had a sequel and a third game set for the Wii U and Chibi-Robo had two sequels on the Nintendo DS. Chibi-Robo sits at 5 games, Pikmin at 4 and Luigi's Mansion is at 3. The shortest time between LM games is a little over 6 years. It's an IP that has not had a stride yet.
The saying quality over quantity exists for a reason ;p
I find it mental that Ninty turned those two into 2D platformers, it was at a time when they were releasing so many other legit great ones (and other meh ones) that it was almost like Ninty wanted them to flop so they could point to that to kill those games off for good.
I ordered Zip Lash after making my post, so I'll see what that game is like soon. It's likely not going to be the greatest 2D game or Chibi-Robo game I've played, but I'm not expecting the game to be a dumpster fire either. Hey! Pikmin is a game I have played, and I enjoyed the game more than I did Pikmin 3. I may prefer it to Pikmin 1 as well, if not Hey! Pikmin is just slightly below for me. Nothing is touching Pikmin 2. I don't think taking a series in a different direction necessarily means poor quality.
"The secret to ultimate power lies in the Alimbic Cluster."
Oh I got plenty:
Fortnite is a piece of crap, always was, always will be
Mario Golf games aren't very good
Bloblobber mains are a disease
Clash Blaster mains are brain-dead
Mario 3D All Stars is a decent game
Mario 64 is buggy and disorienting and not a lot of fun
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon is actually good
I guess these aren't that controversial or whatever, but still.
Galaxy and the good bits of Sunshine are what make 3D All Stars worth the asking price.
I wouldn't say that, it's ultimately an emulation collection and if Sunshine was on the Wii U priced the same as Wii games like Galaxy then those 3 games still wouldn't equal the rrp nor does it feel like it's collection that is bigger than the sums of it's part.
It's only really being limited that has made it feel special. If they had put it in a steel case with a fancy manual or included the obvious missing game it would be a different story imo.
@Genesistalgia@Balta666 I'm not the biggest fan of Sonic 1 but it's okay. It's been quite popular to hate on it recently.
Personally I find Sonic CD to be the worst of the original games - the level design is just awful and completely drags all of the cooler features (new characters in Metal Sonic and Amy, the music, the FMV sequences) down for me.
The more I like a game the less I want to talk to other people about it. I'm not sure what the opinion is that I could draw from that...perhaps that gaming has become so social that it damages the intimate and personal experiences I use to have. It's so much harder to suspend disbelief and be absorbed by a video game I guess. Fan theories, achievements, youtubers, and gaming websites dispel the mystique for me. It makes gaming feel really impersonal and mechanical. And when I do talk about games I love, I end up feeling like a bit of a spiky thing. Nobody cares how much I like Earthbound or Donkey Kong Country 2.
The flipside of that is that multiplayer games are improved by that kind of thing, I think. I love the idea of having a group of friends all absorbed in a shared experience.
@Losermagnet what you are describing is being a hipster, if other people like it too then it must be rubbish ;p
I get what you’re saying though, the sense of excitement from an immersive experience is stripped away when there’s a need to watch a dozen YouTube vids about it, spoiler achievement to reduce it to a checklist, years worth of teaser trailer to artificially inflate excitement etc. In a sense I gravitate to arcade/multiplayer games more because its where the joy is solely in playing and when I do like a solo player game I rarely bother to watch it on YouTube about it. I have a thing about if I need someone else to articulate my opinion then it not my own and it’s why when people dump YouTube vids on the forum it annoys me.
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