Topic: Unpopular Gaming Opinions

@BruceCM therapy is the talking cure, they are more about supporting, listening and giving feedback to you rather than being a crystal ball to your life problems. I’ve had a few friends who gone to it and the biggest key is finding the right therapist rather than any therapist.

I don’t think Anti going to therapy is a bad idea, he has fairly extreme reactions to things and has said himself he’s traumatised by adult video games which counselling may help.

Feedback? Except I'm not supposed to be doing anything with all the 'forget the past' & 'ignore them' feedback already! As I said, I have people who insist therapy can help with those sorts of problems but the people that say that don't have any idea how. If they agree you're not supposed to forget or ignore all the stuff that's been said about, they then have to be able to understand what was said better than either the people saying it or you, who knows those people & was there for those conversations.
There's basically nowhere for me to go with it all, since it is actually still part of general socializing & I don't get a practical option to say I don't understand all that stuff

@BruceCM I’m not sure where this forgot the past thing you’re talking about is coming from, are you in therapy already?

I think you’re generalising it a bit too much as it’s about you processing your emotions/thoughts and recognising your behaviour. There shouldn’t be a universal one fix it solution to it as its all about yourself. If your therapist is telling you to ignore something rather than talking it through with you then it sounds like they are a bad therapist or you’re assuming that is what a therapist does.

In any case in your vague thing about the meaning of what someone said is actually about why you’re fixated on what was said or how that thing that was said makes you feel then build from there rather than telling you what the situation actually was.

Well, the one therapist I actually got to see couldn't understand what was wanted, @jump .... Which is odd, since I told her exactly what I'd been told it was supposed to be about! But, of course, it's my fault I couldn't explain something that hadn't been explained to me, not the fault of the person who'd actually said it in the 1st place.
For anything I'd be supposed to be talking to them about, that's things that were said a lot over 30-40 years. 1st by parents but then also by plenty of other people. Like, for instance, the wonderful theory many used to have that claimed any of it should have been explicable in the 1st place. Just that never applied to any of those people anytime they said anything.
Seems like you'd be going for the same approach I already can't understand & therapists fundamentally can't explain, though. Throw out everything said about socialising? OK, then, we have NOTHING for that, so it's meaningless. Strangely, after doing that, I'm actually still supposed to do all the same things as part of socializing as before.
But it's hardly possible to properly get into it all here! I just don't get why one person here is supposed to need therapy for 'hypocrisy'. When most of society is equally hypocritical & it's not even excused in my life, it's defended & justified by the nearest thing to official representatives I come across. Try suggesting they need therapy to any of them!

@BruceCM well in Anti’s case he regularly talks about how he’s traumatised by games which seems like a good reason to talk to a therapist.

Ah, well, that would probably be more worthwhile but I don't think you'll convince him .....

@jump @BruceCM Most of his problems come from that he is on the Autistic spectrum (Aspergers to be more precise).

I do not think that therapy will do him any good as he is unable to change his views. He prefers everything else to change depending on his views.

Last year he shared some scary stories about how he lost his job due to "confronting" a student that was avoiding him. And later how he woke up a student in her bed because she was late for her personal lesson.

At least now he seems in a good NON destructive way to other kids.

Most people don’t seem like they carefully curate their taste to particular things, or even try to go through the process of rationalizing why they like certain things.
You need to sorta have lots of expendable time and either have a lot of similarly expendable income or devote large amounts to a dedicated leisure activity.

You can’t really hold it against someone if they didn’t dedicate the time you did into something or for not nerding out on the “right” media. This is a very narcissistic ulterior motive for developing interest that I see many indulging into. Elitist nerd shaming the plebs.

@BruceCM
I've been in therapy myself for a while and have been in contact with a fair share of psychiatrists and psychotherapists and I must say that they all have their own style and little quirks in how they operate. Finding the right one can take a while, and the process of recovering from trauma, depression and/or anxieties even longer. You have to give yourself the time to get over whatever is bothering you. It might take years, but I can tell you it's worth it.

Well, since everything that I'd want to talk to them about comes under the umbrella of things said by other people, @Shulkalot .... If they can't understand those, since the problem was that they couldn't be explained in the first place, they can't get onto any sort of how to deal with them better or anything! That's the conundrum. While it's hardly so easy getting to see them! Or you think I'm rich?
Well, I'm supposedly Autistic, too, @Zuljaras .... I'd have to say there's very little support available for that over here, so I don't suppose it's better where he is. Strangely, though, the supposed experts in that field, who'd be supposed to know basic traits of Autism, like taking things literally, still say about 'forget the past' & 'ignore them', then can't explain what they mean but nobody thinks they mean what they say, so it's a bit stuck

@Anti-Matter I don't really think they're disrespecting your choice. It's just something they're not as into. People have different tastes in games. I myself love a lot of mature rated games but they're not everyone's cup of tea. Coming to the conclusion that they're just giving you a slap to the face is pretty childish.

Just cluing into that now?

This attitude is rampant among 'hardcore gamers', and it drives me nuts.

I did find it rather strange that, for a while this gen, people were calling Nintendo irrelevant despite the 3DS being the system with the largest market share for a few years. I suppose handhelds aren't cutting-edge in the same way as home consoles in terms of gaming experience, so they've been historically overlooked.

My unpopular opinion: I can't stand first-person games. I imagine they're meant to foster immersion - but I couldn't find them less immersive. Control of vision generally feels jittery and uncomfortable, and I really hate the lack of peripheral vision and the need to focus your perspective on whatever you're doing. Jumping and interacting with objects are especially bad, as it's difficult to fully assess your position in 3D space.

My one exception to this is first person shooters, as I finding aiming at distant targets lends itself better to a first-person perspective. That said, I don't have a preference between third- and first- person shooters.

@Ralizah @HunterLeon Yeah it's so weird. By units, nintendos really been the leader most gens... But everyone takes their console sales and ignores the handled entirely. Even on the wiiu era, where "dintendoomed" nintendo consoles were ahead of ps4, though the generations were skewed, it wasn't nearly as bleak as wiiu looked of it were nintendos only console. It's a bizarre myopia to not look at handhelds. Especially when handhelds have been nintendos lead console by sales (and therefore the industry lead console by sales excepting only PS2) since 1989...... Hardly a new phenomenon. It's almost as old as gaming itself.

Weirder still is that "hardcore gamers" dismiss handheld while some of the most hardcore games/series around have been handled specific. Disgaia and SMT4 isn't teh hardcore, but "hold rt to ride horse; kill the commander with a big yellow box on him from 8 miles away" rdr2 is?

@Buizel most first person games are fps.... Which first person games are you thinking of that aren't fps? There's Minecraft, be but it has switchable view. Elder scrolls, but that also has switchable view (and tes really is designed around 1st person... Seems weird to use 3rd person but it's always included the option.)

@NEStalgia portal, superliminal, Stanley parable, talos principle. I’m guessing he means those First Person puzzle/ “walking sims”

@NEStalgia @Blooper987 Mirror's Edge, Dishonoured, Outer Wilds come to mind.

@Blooper987 Superliminal is fantastic, I highly recommend it!

Also on this topic, I’d personally consider something like Bioshock or Metroid Prime a first person game rather than a first person shooter despite them being labelled FPS.

@Blooper987 Hmm, not familiar with those, but I get the idea.

@Buizel Hmm, I can see your point. I absolutely love Mirror's Edge...but it did take a lot of getting used to the camera, and I do agree, it's not really a great fit for a platformer. In that game's case, it's kind of one of a kind, so that's its unique charm, but yeah, I can't say that it's the best camera for platforming at all, and I agree with @jump that applies to Metroid Prime as well.

Dishonored is kind of a shooter, though. It is and isn't. But it builds on the legacy of Theif, IMO that is classic first person (though PC mouse only which makes a difference...)

I will say Skyrim in VR is something truly cool. I keep telling myself I'll commit to playing it on PSVR, but I never feel like strapping into the kit.

@Buizel Have you adjusted your FOV? The distortion which comes from it can be uncomfortable when set too high, but I don't find it too bad in the 90-110 range. I'm also curious if you're using a controller or M&KB for such titles and if you've tried adjusting sensitivity.

@NEStalgia Dishonored is only related the Thief in thematic elements and aesthetic. I know that people like to regurgitate the idea that the games are similar due to the obvious, admitted influence Looking Glass had on Arkane, but the differences are massive, making them completely different experiences, even trying to treat Dishonored as a pure stealth game. In fact, many design decisions completely negate the strong points of Thief or run counter to what it was trying to do. They're both stealth-featuring first person titles with some kind of looting element and technologically advanced Victorian-ish settings, and the similarities end there.

Unpopular Opinion: Dishonored is mediocre as a stealth game (especially non-lethally) at best. Prey is much closer to Thief's design in spirit. Thief 3>Thief 1>Thief 2