I've always liked Sonic really - never quite as much as Mario, but I've always enjoyed the Sonic games I've played. The frustrating thing about the 2D games, to me, was that they always felt like they were trying to unfairly trick you - whenever you'd get up to full speed, you could almost always guarantee that there'd be some nasty trap just around the corner that would stop you in your tracks (and make you lose all of your precious, precious rings!) ..not the worst thing in the world (I suppose the idea is that, if you replay the levels enough times, you'll learn the position of these 'traps' and figure out how to avoid them) but the 'speedy' sections were always the most fun bits really - and to just cut them abruptly short often felt like they were just trying to keep the amount of fun you were having in check for no good reason! (..not saying they were bad games - just why I preferred Mario!)
I can't comment too much on the 3D games - I never owned a Dreamcast, so my time with the much-derided ones on that system was too limited to really get a feel for how bad they apparently were! ..but I did have Sonic Colours on the Wii (which combined 2D and 3D sections quite smartly) and really quite enjoyed it! ..I felt it put a neat, modern twist on the classic 'retro' format - and having those little hidden sprite-thingys dotted around each level was a nice way to subtly encourage replayability Again, I'd say that New Super Mario Bros Wii was the better platformer on the system - but that didn't stop me from getting a lot of enjoyment out of Colours as well!
Overall, I'd say that I've been pretty lucky in that I've only played the more highly-regarded Sonic games - which probably gives me a bit of a skewed impression of them - but I've (on the whole) thoroughly enjoyed the ones I've played...if we're comparing the series to the grand-daddy of platformers - Mario - though, Sonic just comes up a bit short (..and there's no shame in that - Mario games just set the bar unreachably high!)
@subpopz@Snaplocket Oh cool! I've still got my GameCube in storage (100 miles away!) at the moment after moving house - but that version (even if it is buggy) might be my best option If I can grab a copy, it could be the perfect motivation I need to finally make that long trip and dig out my ol' GC! Thanks!
I never understood the appeal of Rare's collect-a-thon games (Banjo and DK64 in particular)
3D fighting games like Tekken and Soul Calibur are more like glorified memory games to me than fighting games. They don't feel intuitive at all. Same with the entire Mortal Kombat franchise.
Random enemy encounters in RPGs can die screaming in a fiery hell.
The frustrating thing the 2D games, to me, was that they always felt like they were trying to unfairly trick you - whenever you'd get up to full speed, you could almost always guarantee that there'd be some nasty trap just around the corner that would stop you in your tracks
I feel this way about Sonic 2. This game is frustrating, and also don't even look as good as the first one. Bad gameplay, bad music, bad graphics, and Super Sonic that is one of the worst thing happened to the hedgehog ever in my opinion.
Sonic 1, Sonic 3 & Knuckles and even Sonic CD were much more fair and intuitive. More recent Sonic games like Sonic Advance were completely unbalanced, they were totally unfair but at the same time they were so easy that it did not matter at all that they were unfair. Still less bad than Sonic 2 however.
I love Sonic 1 and a few other episodes too, I would like to love Sonic games as a whole but too many of them are outrageously bad.
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2D Mario better than 3D Mario? Yeah, I'd go along with that
2D Zelda better than 3D Zelda? Here's where our opinions begin to differ! Ocarina of Time, Breath of the Wild, Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess might possibly be my four favourite Zelda games (the first couple are certainly my top two) ..I've nothing against the 2D Zelda games - I just always find that I prefer it when an adventure game is in 3D for some reason? ..and to me, Ocarina has the perfect blend of exploration, story telling, dungeon crawling and a wonderfully curated difficulty arc (gaming perfection!) - so until I play a 2D Zelda that I can unequivically say that I enjoyed more than OoT - I'll continue to hold the 3D games in (slightly) higher regard
Rares platformers? Well, I love 'em! As someone who never owned a PS1, I often wonder whether that was mainly down to the absence of anything else (even as an N64 superfan, I have to admit that good games were relatively few and far between!) ..but Rare games felt like they filled the first-party software gaps beautifully back in the day - I thought that both Banjo and DK were charming games, which I poured many hours in to and thoroughly enjoyed from start to finish - and collect-a-thon's also encouraged replayability, which was especially great when you knew that it'd be a good few months before the next good game would come along! Haha!
I agree with you with regards fighters! Nothing more to add!
Ahhh - agreeing on 2 of the 5 points ain't too bad I guess!
@LuckyLand Yeah, I'm with you there - without the 'traps', perhaps the games would feel a bit too easy - particularly if the slower sections don't feel all that tough (I haven't played it, but I hear that Forces is a bit like that and - as a consequence - doesn't feel challenging at all) ..the original seemed to strike a nice balance between slower platforming sections and fun speedy runs - and it was those slower sections that'd give you that much-needed challenge - but whenever, in a Sonic game, they'd put a little spike at the end of a speed section just to catch you out, it just felt...cheap.
Random encounters in an RPG CAN work. If you were given a proper warning on when a battle could happen while still being random it could give a sense of dread and immersion (see 7th Dragon or Etrian Odyssey).
Maybe, haven't tried any of those games you mentioned. The mechanic sounds interesting though.
Random encounters is the prime reason why I don't like most JRPGs. I usually love the stories and characters in those games, but I always get turned off by random encounters. I just wish it would go away.
Random encounters just depend with the game, some made it work, some... don't. I think they should just make a slider such as Bravely Default or something should be good :V
What's next? Do you not like airline food as well?
I mean, airline food is indeed garbage most of the time. They tend to be pretty bland compared to anything else.
Also, I think I'm more likely to argue that there seem to be some people (even in this thread) who always had some sort of unpopular opinion(s). It feels almost unnatural, even. :laugh:
But hey, this is the Unpopular Gaming Opinions thread, after all. A safe haven of sorts.
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@CreamyDream Ah, I see what you were going for now. Thanks for the clarification! By the way, let it not be said that I too am sort of Sonic hater as well; quite the opposite, actually. Just putting it out there....
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@CreamyDream I honestly wasn't aware that it has become a trend to dislike the Sonic games. I've always thought I was in the vast minority on this. Honestly.
As far as your question goes if I've ever played some of these games personally. Yes, of course I have. It would be very dishonest of me to make the claim otherwise, wouldn't it?
The first time I came into contact with Sonic was at a very young age at a friend's house who had a MegaDrive (I owned a NES). I remember to think it was very cool at first, but once I played it - and I played it a lot - the gameplay never "clicked" with me. I also tried Sonic Adventures on Dreamcast - which I owned myself - and Sonic Colors on Wii.
I also tried Freedom Planet on Steam which is considered a very good Sonic clone, and once again the gameplay didn't do anything for me.
As to why I don't like the gameplay: through the level design and the speed of it all, I always have the feeling I'm not entirely in control of my avatar. Large parts of it feel like the game is playing itself.
But hey, I don't want to dismiss Sonic, not at all. If you like it, that's great. It just isn't for me.
The DS and Wii Rhythm Heaven games are two of the best Nintendo games in the past decade. Top 10, easily. And are better than maybe every new Nintendo game released on Wii U (3 or so of the games are around the same level maybe?)
And once again, Rayman Legends is also better than every first party Wii U game. Tell me 3d World's use of the gamepad isn't disappointing compared to Legends, I dare you. COME ON NINTENDO YOU WANTED SO BADLY TO MAKE YOUR WEIRD GIMMICKY CONTROLLER CONSOLE, ****ING USE IT. WHY IS THE PUBLISHER BEHIND ASSASSIN'S CREED OUT INNOVATING YOU WITH YOUR OWN GIMMICK?!
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