Topic: Unpopular Gaming Opinions

@MegaButterfree Aside from a few particular points, you and I are as different as chalk and cheese!

Outside of Sunset Overdrive, Ori and the Blind Forest and Forza Horizon 3, I don't think the Xbox One has offered a particularly compelling software line-up. Their line-up for the past seven or eight months, since last September (when Forza Horizon 3 was released), has been virtually non-existence too.

I personally feel that the Xbox brand has diluted quite a bit since their mid-to-late Xbox 360 days.

Red Dead Redemption was a chore for me to play as I am not one for watching a Western film or anything within the genre itself so, that probably doesn't help with my admittedly unpopular perception of the game.

I have only played the likes of Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King, Final Fantasy VII and IX, Grandia, Suikoden II and Vagrant Story however, I had a really good time with them all to the point that Final Fantasy VII ended up being my favourite game of all time.

Unfortunately, due to a combination of growing up (I only played them when I was a carefree kid) and not having the time to justify sinking hundreds of hours into them, I simply don't play them anymore...

The Wind Waker had great dungeons! There may not have been as many as Ocarina of Time, but they all had their own characteristics and were a joy to finish. I enjoyed revisiting them just as much in the HD remaster as I did when I first stumbled through them on the GameCube.

In the end, I played 90% of Wii U games with the Pro Controller.

It offers 60+ hours of continuous battery life (against a measly 3 or 4 on the GamePad), is one of the most comfortablest controllers I have ever used and it is just nice to have the option of playing games with a traditional pad. These factors meant that my GamePad was left in the dock all the while. I won't miss it.

Fire Emblem, Monster Hunter and Xenoblade Chronicles are all overwhelming time sinks that I have no desire of trying let alone playing. I am sure they are perfectly good games within their respective genres, but not for somebody who takes nearly a month - or longer - to complete a twenty hour game nowadays.

Last but not least, I didn't like Fallout 3 that much however, I thoroughly enjoyed playing New Vegas. Felt like a proper Fallout RPG compared to a Fallout (3) themed game that lacked any fundamental conversation choices or skill-based options. Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim are not my kind of games.

I don't even like the term 'causal gamer'. Everybody's different. I like a bit of everything, whether the games I play are on a mobile phone, an iPad or a home console. I always try to keep an open mind too.

Oops, that went on much longer than I expected!

I think that a good movie out of classic video game IP (Mario, Sonic, Zelda, DOOM, Streets of Rage, etc.) is not only possible, I'll bet that one will happen within the next ten-to-fifteen years.

Also, Indiana Jones and The Fate of Atlantis deserves more love. It was a really solid adventure game and a great example of how to make a game feel like it's source material.

Final Fantasy is awful. Dragon Quest blows it out of the water.

The Game Boy Pocket is the best way to play Game Boy games. (Not the Super Game Boy or SP AGS-101.)

Also, Enter the Matrix is a good game.

I've never heard anyone say anything bad about the game, it is a fantastic game.

It would have been a good game for me if they did the PC port properly. A BSoD at the start of a certain level regardless of hardware used rendered it unfinishable.

@shaneoh It's not that it's hated, but that no one talks about it.

This is a correct opinion.

@MegaButterfree I didn't expect you to acknowledge one, let alone a handful of my points! I have a terrible tendency to get carried away with words when I get stuck in; I apologise for that.

I have been a lifelong Nintendo fan, and the Wii was the first Nintendo home console that I felt was dishearteningly underwhelming, despite providing me, my friends and my family abundance of joy whilst playing Wii Sports together as well as having an immense amount of fun with Super Mario Galaxy 2.

It was there and then that I decided to glance over the fence to see what was on the other side for the very first time. The PlayStation 3 was far too expensive for me at the time so, I got an Xbox 360 and those three years or so that followed were absolutely brilliant. I even - gasped - liked the Kinect!

As you said so yourself, the mandatory inclusion of Kinect, the 24 hour online checks (DRM), the whole American focussed 'TV TV TV!' and all that 'your all-in-one entertainment system' bobbins for the Xbox One unveiling made me realised that I was no longer their target audience.

As you probably know yourself, it was a drastic enough change to get people looking the other way. And so I did, by going back to Nintendo (3DS and Wii U) and buying my very first PlayStation home console.

I think that the Xbox brand does its own thing nowadays, and doesn't seem to (want to) directly compete with Nintendo and Sony with their mostly single-player focussed games that are often more memorable than not.

Everybody's different.

I agree with both of your other two points too.

My avatar is beaming after seeing Zelda (your avatar) giving Link a cheeky wink, ha ha!

The Wheel (with Tilt Controls) is the superior way to play Mario Kart! ..yep, I'm 'that guy' - haha!

I like Street Fighter V

Here's some of my many unpopular gaming opinions:

-I hate Super Mario 64. A lot. I think it's an outdated mess of a game that barely holds up today. And SM64DS was my first DS game!

-I also thought that Breath of the Wild was not really worth the extreme hype. It's an incredible game, but I haven't touched it in a while.

-I dislike Mario RPGs.

-Animal Crossing, to me, is incredibly tedious and boring.

-The original DS line was a pretty bad line with few amazing games.

@TheLZdragon Isn't that a popular opinion? FF is only more popular than DQ in the west.

I wish that fighting games would stop putting in story modes...I just want good netcode and a balanced game. Tutorials and combo labs can stay though. I think SF V did a good job from the start; it had a good combo lab/training mode. Still doesn't beat VF4 or even VF 5 in that aspect though (or in gameplay but that is neither here nor there).

And where is this thread based? The west

I rest my case

I know others have said this quite a few times but I've been thinking about it so I'll say it again. I think the used market for games is pretty broken. I know people argue that you own a game in the same way you own an album or movie you buy physically. But people don't consume games in the same way.

For example Zelda:BotW, a fantastic game. Probably one of my favourite games in a long while. But I've beaten it now. Ignoring the DLC for a second I could sell this game and get some of that money back. Being purely rational about it, why I wouldn't do that? On the other hand the new King Gizzard album I got at the same time I've listened to three times now. I'm not done with it. You don't consume albums like that. If you like a bit of music or a movie you'll keep it so you can watch or listen to it again later.

The only reason people ever sell their CD, DVD, Vinyl, BluRay collection is when they're selling the lot. Clearing room or maybe it's an estate selling off their stuff. If you go to a second hand shop and look at their DVDs firstly it'll be DVDs and not BluRay but you're also unlikely to find much that's less than about ten years old. You're also unlikely to find any used stuff at a place that sells physical copies of music and movies. Compare that to games, walk into your local GameStop equivalent and the first thing you'll see is a bin full of games from last season.

People consume games differently so the issues with the grey market are different. And it's kinda understandable that the publishers get a bit worked up about it. Also why they're only getting worked up about it now and not decades ago. Games don't go out or print now, if you can buy a game used for $30 it'd be better for everyone if instead you downloaded it for $40.

I partially agree, partially don't. But at the end of the day, the counterpoint of used games is an inherently worse alternative based on what AAA game companies can be like.

It also doesn't feel like it matters as much anymore, when any non-massively hyped/popular game is relegated to a limited retail release (usually after starting as digital only).

@Nintendoer
I agree with you about Super Mario 64 and I'd take it even further. With very few exceptions I think that the N64's library is pretty average if you want to play them today. Just about everything on the N64 is borderline unplayable by today's standards. At least with the 2D platforms before that games usually looked decent and ran well. The N64 is full of fake looking 2D backdrops, muddy textures, nauseating camera angles and horrible framerates.

Though I'm more than happy to give Zelda a pass....

@kkslider5552000
Well I agree that the alternative is a bit crappy in some aspects. But in terms of how much gamers spend and how much on average game-makers get from gamers? I think the PC market is probably better for both parties. PC gamers get more content for their money and game-makers get a greater average return per user.

I think my enjoyment of the often hated N64 port of Megaman Legends sums up my feelings on that whole generation in retrospect.

No matter what problems it has, it's still more interesting and fun to me than vastly better, more polished 3d games today. And no one is making a modern equivalent of it to be "better" anyway. So unless a miracle happens and Red Ash is actually great (that's still happening I think), I will enjoy MM64 because everyone is too stupid to give me an alternative (though admittedly, I finally can get old PS1 games on the PS3 I got, so that will help for obvious reasons )

I think the main difference is that videogaming is a highly expensive hobby - music and film aren't, unless you're a true collector. For some people, buying and re-selling videogames ASAP is the only realistic and sustainable way to play new stuff. I buy approximately 150 albums a year, mostly on CD because they are so cheap (especially nowadays that all the music snobs want vinyl - which is more expensive, harder to get, harder to handle and harder to store). If I had to sell my albums individually, I would probably get one or two bucks each - hardly worth the hassle unless I sell them in bulk. Basically, re-selling a record would get me less than a fifth of the price I paid for the thing. Same with DVDs or books.
But I could buy Breath of the Wild for €60, play it for one month and re-sell it privately for a good price, say €35 or even €40. This is a considerable amount of money if I plan on buying the next big game coming out. There are other factors at play, of course - most notably the fact that people consume games differently (I do agree on that) but if records costed €60 and you could re-sell them for half of that price, it would be the same merry-go-round that is happening in the videogame world now.

it's not impossible considering Banjo Kazooie surpassed 64 in 1998.

@BiasedSonyFan
No my complaint is about the economics of the grey market. If someone buys a game for $80AU and sell it to a store for $20AU who then sells it on to someone else for $50AU. On average the two users have paid ~$55AU for that game of which only ~$40AU paid for the actual game. If however the market was more like the PC market where there is no reselling? The first guy would have likely paid $70AU and the second guy would have waited for a sale when the price dropped to $30AU. $50AU paid on average, $50AU going directly to the cost of the game.

My complaint with the grey market isn't so much about private sales. If someone wants to share a game with their friends or recover the costs of their purchase by selling it for less than they paid? That's a positive for the end user. But when there's a middle-man making a profit from the used market? Of course it's legal. But they are making a profit at the expense of both the end user and the game makers.

@spizzamarozzi
I think the main difference between movies, music and games is that there are no cheap alternatives to buying games. If I want to listen to a popular album for cheap I'm not going to bother hunting down a used copy. I'll stream it. Streaming is effectively free, buying used isn't.

But for games? If I want to play Zelda BotW I need a copy of Zelda BotW. The cheaper alternative to buying new is via the used market. And if you walk into your local EBGames or whatever your regional equivalent is that's what you'll be shown first. Used games.