Topic: The Chit-Chat Thread

Just compare between the Gamecube version and Switch version.

In Switch version, you can customize a lot of things (your looking, your house, villagers looking, your island, etc), you can set your Hemisphere (North or South continent), you can use your Animal Crossing Amiibo to invite them to your island, you can use custom design with QR codes, etc.

The Gamecube version is really Plain Vanilla, lack of almost every important features on New Horizons. You cannot even take off your Viking helmet. You cannot save the game freely. You cannot even terraforming your island. You cannot even skip across the river. Etc.

Just do not listen to that rumour.
Animal Crossing New Horizons will definetely much better than the Gamecube version.

@Ninfan Whatever you heard would only be based on very loose and limited information, since the game isn't out yet, and, unlike Pokemon, hasn't been leaked way in advance! But I still expect the game to lead sometime early next month. Someone always seems to get an early copy and then dump everything online...

Personally from everything we have seen so far, the game looks amazing. Though I never played the Gamecube title. I was only vaguely aware the series existed at all, until my friend showed me the 3DS game and got me completely hooked almost immediately! The degree of customization we are going to have in this game looks really amazing! It's like the entire island is your home this time! I could imagine myself dumping hundreds of hours into the game and playing it daily for at least a full year, and probably beyond too.

@NEStalgia Good point. I'm assuming the Hillbillies starring in that particular program have also been exposed to something, although that might not be petrol but moonshine...

@Tyranexx No problem. I figured it wouldn't hurt to make myself a bit more clear, in order to prevent a misunderstanding, just in case.

I can relate to what you described, minus the stress. Although, that does sometimes come along when I start to get annoyed about how much useless time and energy I've spent looking something up, when I could have done something more constructive or entertaining with my evening. I mean, we all know about and probably have those lost hours/evenings on YouTube sometimes, where the plan was to just look up that trailer for that new movie or upcoming game, and before you know it, you're lost in weird crap and cat videos, or whatever else strikes your fancy.

@bimmy-lee Oh, Mr. beer bear....
There's a not so subtle difference between graphic violence and gratuitous violence. But you knew that already, didn't you? Don't make me explain it...

Have to confess the same sins, though. Some of my video tapes have either been forever lost or damaged, due to rewinding and pausing scenes like you mentioned. Too bad I didn't have any kind of capture card or device back then. Although on modern day PC's, the pictures would probably look grainy as hell, and not to mention stamp-sized. Nah, we can get all that full frontal goodness from back then straight from the internet nowadays, and for free as well...

@ThanosReXXX "that might not be petrol but moonshine..."

Wait, there's a difference?!

Also "hillbillies"...tsk..... Inbreed shaming is offensive in our enlightened society!

@NEStalgia No worries about being offensive. We're all gonna be dead this time next year from Coronavirus anyway!

@Heavyarms55 New look, same great pestilence!

@bimmy-lee They typically swarm in the fall. Some years growing up were better than others when those pests were involved. The worst ones were when the weather became significantly cool, and then would warm up again. They'd get the "We're gonna freeze!" fever and attempt to barge in like a video game character in an unlocked house. That smell we both dislike so much is what attracts more of them to a location. Besides the fact that they can pinch and cause reactions in a few sensitive people, they also have a habit of leaving those brown spots on random things. :nauseated_face:

I have a few sneak indoors at my current place, but I've only seen about a dozen inside my house this whole winter. My house faces westward, and the only south-facing window is in my attached garage. There are a few dozen dead/hibernating ones sitting there that I'll be getting rid of when I clean out my garage on a nicer weekend.

@ThanosReXXX That's where some of the stress comes from in my case: the time lost that could've been spent doing something more constructive and enjoyable. YouTube is one that swallows my time, and Reddit as well if I don't severely limit myself. And heaven forbid if I ever get involved in a site like Pinterest....

@ThanosReXXX I realized that I was responding to another separate issue in the first post. I reread your comment and realized you were more talking about video game violence than other possible political interpretations someone can have with a game.

But to respond to your comment, I totally get what you were saying about it being an innocent hobby. I mean most kids growing up playing NES and Commodore had no concept of relating the games to the political landscape.

But the 80s and 90s were also a time when video games were seen as nothing more than kiddy playthings. I remember my mom coming in the room and turning off my Nintendo saying that I should watch TV instead. As if A TV show is better for child than some of the active thinking and problem solving that goes on when playing a game. I definitely don’t think that stigmatization of video games is good for medium. But the only way to get rid of that stigma is by treating the content of a video game in the same light as that in a novel or movie. Then people will stop singling it out as a destructive hobby, and one can be constructive and yes “art” in its own unique way.

But I can see both sides to the argument. I don’t personally need to read a dissertation on the political implications of Space Invaders (fear of the “other”, Reaganite space age fascism, amirite? 😂) but if someone feels inclined to do so then go ahead, I suppose. I feel like the very act of “play” is justification enough for video games and the place they have in society. But that’s just my take.

@NEStalgia You are in violation of law 22178 of “Video Game Website Code of Conduct”. Men in black suits will be at your door shortly. We would appreciate your compliance. Have a nice day.

@Tyranexx That sounds intense. I’ll keep your story in mind when the inevitable Warioware game comes to the Switch. Don’t play during flu season 😅

@Tyranexx I can't even figure out how to use Pinterest. Any time something links to it the link just links to something else i don't care about, and i never find the thing i clicked for at all. I'm about ready to declare it a content mill.

I've never heard of warioware fever dreams. Could be worse. You could have played links Awakening. Or animal crossing shudder

@NotTelevision The men in Black suits will get a surprise. I've played Pokemon. That must mean I'm a crazed madman

Content of Sony video games maybe can be treated like novels and movies, but competitive games are more like sports, and then there's Nintendo games that are kind of play things.... Or gets confusing, but I'd have thought by now the "play things" motif would have faded when the stereotypical 80s parents weren't the parental group anymore.

But i do still see the negative stigma that, if not dangerous, games are at least time wasters that ambitious, future success kids shouldn't be allowed to touch. In some ways I see there's truth in that thinking. On the other hand the "my kid's going to be a doctor/lawyer no matter what" born to print money parenting trope seems more likely to breed a kid that's going to blow up their school more than playing Halo.

@NotTelevision ...Or should you? It might make for an interesting dream experience at any rate! A few of mine are cool, but most are just weird, mundane, or embarrassingly impossible.

@NEStalgia Yep, to me Pinterest just seems like an interesting idea soup that's easy to get lost in. I've intentionally never made an account as it's a rabbit hole I don't wanna even play around. I find plenty of other ways to waste my time.

I can't speak for Animal Crossing, but a Link's Awakening dream would be dark in the extreme. Beneath that whimsy, colorful toon exterior lies one of the darkest Zelda decisions ever....

@NEStalgia In the 80s and 90s the problem was other than the designers, the only people speaking about video games in a favorable way were children, which can’t or don’t feel the need to justify their interests to the adult world. Marketing even played into that by making advertising more edgy or “rad”, because it was something that only your cool friends understood and not your totally lame parents who didn’t know the Konami code or how to do fatalities in Mortal Kombat. So the generational divide was exasperated by the publishers to sell the games and generate buzz with kids. So in some ways the industry was asking for the hammer to come down.

Parents fed into the other side
demonizing them and seeing them as brain rot, like in the 50s and 60s with Rock and Roll.

So now the people who played those games are in their 30s and some feel the need to overthink them, because that’s how to justify “art” in the adult world. My point is that even as “playthings”, so to speak, they always had value without any other considerations. After all, not every playground (games as pure “play” absent of significant story beats) is created equal and some are more appealing than others for various reasons. But if someone feels they need to read more into them for some reason, then go for it, if that removes any stigma they have in culture.

@Tyranexx Haha. Good point. I have boring dreams as well. I think last week I had one in a supermarket buying cereal. Pretty forgettable.

How do Nintendo choose the classic games each month? Some months they are bad some they are good. Not always consistent. They possibly do it like Get some games from a list and select which ones to add.

@NEStalgia "Also "hillbillies"...tsk..... Inbreed shaming is offensive in our enlightened society!"

Have you ever SEEN the program?

P.S.

Completely agreed on your assessment of games vs specific types of upbringing/raising your kids (aka pushing them and stressing the crap out of them) into becoming something they might not even want to be, causing certain outcomes sometimes.

@Tyranexx Haha, yeah, I've been lost inside the Reddit web at times as well. Pinterest not so much. I come across it sometimes during Googling something, but it always annoys me with pop ups and subscribe banners if I scroll down the page, so I never stay around for more than a minute or two. It's usually when I'm looking for a picture from something or other.

But even my Reddit adventures pale in comparison to being caught inside the YouTube maelstrom, vortex, dimension, or whatever you want to call that time vacuum...

@NotTelevision Yeah, all true. And you know what the truly sad thing about it possibly (probably?) is?
I highly suspect that these so-called "crusaders for a better world", as politicians often like to see and advertise themselves, already know full well that it takes more than a video game to push someone, or anyone over the edge, so they've probably also seen all the medical and psychological reports of these idiots that took things too far, and even an averagely smart person would then have been able to connect the dots to see that there were far more factors involved and that these individuals were already not the most mentally stable to begin with...

But no, what works, and what has always worked ever since the dawn of time, is choosing the path of the least resistance, the easy explanation, that won't freak out the public so much. So, blaming something that's around us and available every day and everywhere, is "safer" in that regard, than scaring the general public into realizing that there might be a lone wolf (edit: aka ticking time bomb) living somewhere near them as well.

So, in short: governments and politicians still like to keep people uninformed about things that aren't really "safe" or good for them to know, in their opinion. Luckily, we now have the internet and tin foil hats, so we'll beat them in the end...

@ThanosReXXX Fearmongering is always easier than thought. Mobs don’t have to answer to individual responsibility.

@NotTelevision Your "cool friends" played EAs Madden on Sega. We Nintendo wieners weren't part of that group unless we bought a Power Glove.

The more things change.....

But yeah, it's not so different now. Most mainstream gaming/western gaming absolutely uses the generational divide still. Those "adult" games ("Click here NOW, my lord!"....wait...not that kind of adult game....) are marketed squarely at tweens. Like High School Musical.

@ThanosReXXX Politics is the lowest common denominator. Take everything you know about sales and marketing, bundle it all into one of those 'bad actor" American trial lawyers you dislike so much, and stuff that into someone with a ton of personal ambition, greed, and press that all under a nice big stack of entities willing to hand those people millions to sell whatever thinking they want (some for commerce, some for social engineering), and you get shrewd, cynical salesman that can sell anything, dramatize anything for maximum emotional effect, and wrap it all in a shroud of knowing how to maneuver the laws. Facts no longer apply. Facts are whatever you make to be facts and sell successfully. And if you're really good, and many of them are, you can now make anyone that doesn't support your freshly minted facts into a liar.

This applies to nearly 100% of all politicians. Eventually you get a few legitimately direct ones. Unfortunately the majority of those are legitimately direct with their own personal agendas and use the same techniques to sell those.

As the old adage goes, anyone that wants power is the kind of person who shouldn't be given it. You know that a politician is corrupt and the very wrongest kind of person possible for the position by the fact that they ran for the office to begin with.

@NotTelevision Yep, the boring ones normally have me involved in everyday stuff, although there's usually an element thrown in there where I'm late to work for some ridiculous reason or have to go to some crazy event that I'm not involved with.

The most fun dreams involve superhuman abilities and multiple physics violations.

@ThanosReXXX YouTube is the worst offender in my case. I'll start with a random gaming-related video, then an hour later I'm wondering how I got into watching beekeeping videos and comedy clips. Most of the videos I seek out are short, but they all tend to add up. XD

@HobbitGamer That reminds me of how accurate some Disney songs during the 80s-90s could be. You brought to mind the Mob Song from Beauty and the Beast.

@NEStalgia I feel like you'd relate to Nickelback's Feed The Machine. Not the album (most of the album is meh), but the song itself.

@HobbitGamer True, and yet, in the case of "politicians against video games" it seems to be a bit of both, seeing as fearmongering to the exact letter WOULD be telling people that there is a ticking time bomb living amongst them, but instead, they point at (and generalize) video games, which is more like seeking a common denominator, putting all games into the same guilty box, and that's obviously besides the fact that games aren't to blame for these rampant idiots in the first place.

@NEStalgia Why... so... serious?
I think I already pretty much nailed it before, at least from a gut feeling perspective. But agreed on most of what you said, save for a tiny niggle concerning the bit about power-hungry politicians: not all politicians start out bad by default. Some genuinely get into it in hopes of bringing change to something that they think is wrong, but power ultimately always corrupts, and absolute power... well, we all know about that one.

However, the flip side of that particular coin is that even if you're not power hungry, you'd still NEED power to be able to instigate any changes you'd like to make to society or the economy, so it's kind of a catch 22 for all budding and seated politicians. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. That's why I almost kind of feel sorry for them, but it's mostly also why I don't like politics: it promises a lot, and 9 out of 10 times, it delivers nothing. Or at least nothing that the Average Joe can reap any tangible benefits from...

@Tyranexx Yup, nail on the head right there, concerning YouTube. From the actual game trailer I was looking for to cat videos or any other kind of comedy video to "hey, whatever that is displayed in the column on the right side also looks kind of interesting, so let's check it out" to "how the hell did I get to a point where I'm watching a creationists vs evolutionists video?"...

Oh, by the way: totally agreed on those types of dreams. If I'd actually accumulate frequent flyer miles for the distances I've traveled, soaring through the air inside my dreams...

@ThanosReXXX We'll have a new cafeteria, and a new gym, and a pool on the roof if I'm elected president of the student council!

Ahh, they start 'em young!

I think maybe if politicians were kept like priests or nuns or monks. If you want to be a politician you'll live in a commune with other politicians, live a vow of poverty, a life of celibacy, you exist to serve your higher cause. Ok, granted, pedopolis hasn't worked out so well for one of the above organizations. As-is they live on the high side of society, separated from the commoners of society, and insulated from all ill effects of their policy, while guaranteed to reap the good effects of their policy. If they were held beneath society as simple servants maybe they'd be more egalitarian.

....Pffffssshh....nah...who am I kidding...

@Tyranexx I've....I've.......I've been compared to Nickelback....... I feel insulted. Betrayed. Used. Offended. THIS IS HATE SPEECH!!!!

@NEStalgia Who you're kidding? I won't say nobody, but definitely not me...

Was that you, in the student council? I think not, but if so, I'll think I'll pass. I'd want my representative to at least be proficient in one type of winter sports, and I don't mean sleigh riding or snowman building...

@ThanosReXXX Yeah you got it. Classic misdirection tactics. “Hey what’s that thing I can blame and requires me to make no legislative changes... oh yeah video games, that’s it.”

I’m thinking Son of Sam must of been a time traveler. He was a totally normal well adjusted young man until he time traveled to 1992, played 5 minutes of Doom, then time traveled back to the 70s and started his crime spree. That’s the only feasible explanation for why that happened. Life was so peaceful before video games came along 😛.

@NEStalgia Nah I wasn’t “in the game” until the N64. I was a Nintendork like you. Didn’t know what an Altered Beast was and wasn’t beating up punks on the Streets of Rage until later in life. I never played that adult game you mentioned. Does it have any “surprise mechanics” that I might be interested in? 🤠

@Tyranexx Those are the best. Flying, gliding, being somewhere that is not work or the supermarket...

Sounds like you have the classic late or missing a deadline dreams. Those are tricky because you’ll wake up and think it really happened for a bit. You come to realization that none of that really occurred and then feel relieved, but it is startling.