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ThanosReXXX

@BruceCM I've watched all series and all movies, including all the reboots and the CBS/Netflix series Star Trek Discovery.

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BruceCM

I like the recent reboot films, too, @ThanosReXXX .... Not got Netflix for their series I quite liked DS9 & Voyager, too but not as much! Did see most of the original series in the end, though
Have a Neelix cookie or something

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ThanosReXXX

@BruceCM Well, if you don't have Netflix, then there's always streaming or downloads...
It's actually a pretty good series. Currently, they've made two seasons and the third one is coming up. Contracts for it were signed in February.

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NEStalgia

Voyager is much derided, but I'll always have a soft spot for it. TNG seemed a lot better 30 years ago than it does today for some reason.... Back in the day Voyager could never stand up to TNG. In hindsight, it aged much better than TNG. In a way it's my favorite, though I fully acknowledge DS9 is a superior television show overall.

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HobbitGamer

@NEStalgia I would've gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you and that meddling Zelda!

My take:
DS9
TNG
Voyager
TOS
Enterprise

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BruceCM

Yeah, I remember hearing about it when it was coming & started, @ThanosReXXX .... I'll probably get around to that, sometime
I haven't seen any of those for 20+ years, @NEStalgia, so I dunno about that! Both Voyager & DS9 did have some great episodes & I wouldn't like to say which was better overall.

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NEStalgia

@BruceCM DS9 had a lot of great episodes. Voyager....the more time goes by the more it stands out in some ways as the more "intellectual" Trek. DS9 was a bombastic nail biting story arc with great characters that developed really well. TOS was pretty much a spaghetti western in space...which was Gene's design. He knew what 1960's audiences loved. He was a TV man through and through. TNG is weird in ways I never realized at the time, but it has a dramatic shift in direction when Gene left. It was kind of unsteady in the beginning. It felt like it tried to be more "serious" than TOS while reliving the glory of the fist and it was never really finding its niche. Plus, Gene's obsession with "child geniuses" made the focus on Wesley Crusher start to consume the whole show, and forcing the character in started breaking plot believably.

Nobody likes Wesley Crusher. Not even Wesley Crusher (Will Wheaton) likes Wesley Crusher.... Plus, Will was already a known (child) actor prior and hadn't signed on as full time cast, it was supposed to be juggling with other work and Gene kept casting him which is why he (thankfully) left eventually

But CAAAAAAAAAAAptaaaaaaaainnnnnn........

It was also plagued by the season 3 SWG writer's strike.

Once Rick Berman took over it gained focus and became the show everyone remembers, and was consistent. It was the best in many regards...but in hindsight, some of the production tropes of 80's television haunt it still. Voyager at the time was the campiest and cheesiest compared to the larger than life cast of TNG. No individual cast member stands out in the same way as Piccard, Riker, Data. Perhaps Neelix stands out in the same way as Wesley... But in hindsight, where TNG focused on topics and questions more relevant in its own time, surviving hostile environments, and ill defined "space life forms", and a focus on Cold War concepts of truce and getting along vis a vis Klingons, Voyager was a bit more cerebral and timeless in it's topics. TOS was more physical exploration - planets, plants, alien weather hostile conditions, space phenomenon. Things that seemed relevant during the early days of the Space Shuttle and the plans for the ISS. Voyager tackled things like diseases, mental limits, (non)linearity of time, sociology of dealing with native populations, civilizations built on different situations. Where TOS got to focus on "uninhabited space" and "known political entities, as a power of force" with so called "non-interference" when things were really interfered with. Voyager delved more into having to deal with other civilizations and having to adapt to THEM, even clandestinely. And yes, the occasional "random space monster."

It lacked grandeur and bombast, but in hindsight the stories were a lot more subtle, but timeless. And the characters, while not larger than life H-E-R-O-E-S like TNG, were in a lot of ways less cardboard and more fleshed out. The last season or two that become a Borg-fest and 7of9 obsessed got boring though. Final seasons usually disappoint though....

DS9 is technically the best actual show. The writing and story telling were above the norm, with production values to match.

And then there's poor Enterprise. It actually grew on me a whole lot the second time around. Such a shame they completely broke and redid the story and then cancelled it. It lacked coherence at first, then stopped kind of abruptly just when it got good.

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia I tend to agree on your verdict of the series. Personally, I also really like Enterprise and Discovery as well, though.

On a side note: apparently, there's a series about Picard in the making, so TNG is also going to make a return, well... kinda...

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NEStalgia

@ThanosReXXX Oh and I forgot the best part of TNG that got even better in DS9: Worf. Mike Dorn is forever awesome! (He shows up occasionally as a VA in games as well.)

Yeah I heard about the Picard series. Not sure I can imagine how they'll piece it together in a way that doesn't seem like a name recognition cash grab, but if it does go together that's really cool.

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia And there he goes again, editing in an entire text wall after the fact...

Funnily enough, I agree with most of that too, so I don't have to edit my previous comment to reflect a perhaps different sentiment because of your text wall edit.

As for Voyager, I certainly feel like at least two out of nine points in that show stood out. The back wasn't too bad either... (oh, man, I've been WAY too involved and delved far too deep into that weird anime game discussion, and the opposing reviews that people posted)

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BruceCM

Meanwhile, I'm looking forward to Star Ocean 1st Departure R....

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Tyranexx

For some reason, my phone has gotten into the habit of correcting "in" to "I" a lot of the time lately. It's made posting fun.

@ThanosReXXX I'm not too picky about my glasses unless they're unnecessarily large and unwieldy, like huge beer steins. I'm usually more preoccupied with what's in them. XD

On meat shields: I mean, what else are human beings but piles of meat? I kinda like Organic Companion Shield, but Save Me Sacrifice sounds better IMO. (I can be a bit morbid)

@bimmy-lee A lot of the walls and barricades are typically made of wood. What made it worse in that particular section for that year was that a lot of the darkness was provided by black plastic. The dude came through with (presumably) his wife and some kids, so he wasn't exactly setting an example. We have to tell people (in-character) to put their phones away on occasion since a lot of people like using them as light sources or for recording purposes. We don't allow that; it's another thing that's clearly spelled out in the rules.

We try to keep groups from barging into each other, but this is sometimes easier said than done. Groups tend to move through the attraction at different speeds. There are different ways we can delay groups, but you can only do so much when you can't physically touch the patrons.

Accidental touching does happen on occasion. Most people are pretty good about it, but a few are quite obnoxious. "OMG You touched me!" Gotta love the smart@$$es. We can also bend the rules a bit if we know someone well though....

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Heavyarms55

@bimmy-lee A Titan fossil dig, evidence that humanity didn't originate on Earth, the remains of another civilization that once existed on Earth, there are any number of potential terrestrial things that could be there that the government might want hidden from the public.

@ThanosReXXX There's sort of like four or five vaguely overlapping conversations going on with this general theme at this point. lol

As for those records we launched, I do think that even a species that evolved in such a radically different way would, with enough time and effort, be able to decipher the meaning. Any species that was sufficiently advanced to develop space travel would be able to detect patterns and probably eventually the meaning behind them. And in the event that finding our records was their first evidence of another civilization, I fully imagine they would put that effort in.

@NEStalgia That's entirely true and a real risk. The sort of cataclysm that would destroy a planet is incredibly rare, but is something like a meteor impact or environmental catastrophe happened you could travel all that way to find a planet more hostile to life than a barren rock.

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HobbitGamer

What if there is another life out there and They just don’t want anything to do with us. They keep getting our records like it’s junk mail.

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ThanosReXXX

@Tyranexx Well, I certainly think they're good glasses, but I can also imagine that some people would rather drink cocktails or mixed drinks from other, more thin glasses, but good to know your point of view on the matter. I'll keep it in mind for future references...

Concerning your definition of meat shields: sounds more like collateral damage...

@Heavyarms55 An interesting and valid point, so I agree. Which I already kinda did by adding the disclaimer in one of my previous comments, that we ourselves have also been able to decipher all kinds of ancient scripts, so the aliens will probably also be able to decipher ours, or at least to some extent. They would have to understand and learn how to make a record player, though...

Instructions for that are on the disc itself, luckily.

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Heavyarms55

@HobbitGamer That isn't too far off from another of the potential explanations of the Fermi Paradox. One concept is that an advanced civilization surrounds us and has already written us off as primitive and/or violent and lacking in useful, exploitable resources. Early sci-fi works often depicted aliens coming to Earth to take our water, but that concept is laughable now, as water, in the form of ice, is known to be actually very common in the universe.

It's also similar to the zoo explanation where such an advance civilization might have banned contact with us until we develop on our own.

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Tyranexx

@ThanosReXXX I highly recommend looking up meat shield examples. Some recorded uses of it are quite hilarious. Not only for self-preservation, but sometimes people will physically offer their freaked out friend or partner to us, increasing the terrified person's freakout factor. It's still hilarious, but I don't tend to hold such people very highly lol.

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Heavyarms55

@Tyranexx In Gundam the Earth Federation actually does send hundreds of pilots to their death with the actual intention of them being cannon fodder. That's basically the same as a meat shield, right?

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Tyranexx

@Heavyarms55 Pretty much, though usually there's some type of relationship between the shield and the bearer. XD

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