While we’re at it, let’s maybe examine why everyone seems to have some level of internet related PTSD, and maybe it seems to be stronger in younger people who have never existed without it. I’m almost certain it’s unhealthy to know every single horrible thing that happens in the world every day, and I’m positive that idiots should not be given forum to connect and become emboldened with other idiots.
@ThanosReXXX It's not guns, it's not "certain individuals" or any of those lame excuses. I've said before and I'll continue to say, the violence problem here is a violence problem, not a gun problem. And the violence problem is a symptom, not a cause. And solving it can not be done by treating the symptom. The problem is the cause is one fundamental to the structure of the society, economy, and way of life here. The only way to "fix" it is to fundamentally rewrite the culture, economy, and way of life. Speaking of natural emotional response....what does any animal do when cornered and trapped, with their existence in jeopardy? They attack. Relentlessly. Adrenaline fueled viscous attacks. Why is it when it happens here we instead blame guns, illness, or anything except the actual problem?
Associating this with my above comment, based on the reality of life in this location and time, I would say "mass violence" isn't "metal illness"...it's in fact "natural human response to a given set of conditions." Sure you can drug people to be incapable of responding naturally to their conditions...but you'll always miss a few...and then the drugs themselves have that percentage risk of fueling that response more intensely... Fixing that means fixing the problematic conditions - a pressure cooker, high risk, winner takes all, loser becomes an 'un-person' way of life is in the majority of cases the direct cause (with a smaller percentage being truly visibly unstable people that no doubt have malfunctioning brains not related to external stimuli, but that's not the majority of the cases, no matter how much society likes to craft that image for each attack.) The continuous stress threatening one's entire future existence can be endured up to a point, provided one has the resources and emotional condition to do so. But when people are worn down to a certain point...they're going to react (of course a lot of the statistics specifically regarding guns leave out the fact that a lot of the gun violence is tied to drug cartels/gangs...that's a whole other thing of faction wars and black market international business....the violence rate among the populace is actually much higher (!!) than the gun specific violence numbers...) The problem is the US is probably the most extreme case of that way of life, and entire populations by zip code of "un-persons." And as a result, we have the most extreme number of people reacting in a (naturally) violent manner to it. And then we act surprised, act like we don't understand why, and try to blame access to specific objects as the cause....solve that one simple trick(TM) and the problem will go away...that's the ticket!
The reality is EVERYONE could be the one that does it. Absolutely EVERYONE (disclaimer: everyone not drugged to be immune to the effects of external stimuli, minus the ones that are drugged to be immune but react with the drugs and have the opposite effect of being more likely to.) If put in the right/wrong conditions, it could be the soccer mom, it could be the 13 year old, it could be the friendly former factory worker, it could be you, you may say it couldn't be you, but it could be...you haven't been pushed to that point, but you could be in the right/wrong conditions....it could be anyone that does it. But that's not a fun narrative with a simple solution to point fingers and blame something that "must be those other people, not me and anyone I know! We should label, categorize, and isolate those people! We should ban any object they might be able to use from everyone so they can't get it! We should ban violent video games, that must make them violent....because I don't play them and I'm not violent!" Instead it's an uncomfortable narrative that says that the fundamental system you are comfortable with is disastrously broken, and you might be the one benefiting from the instability (for now.) )
And that narrative will never be told here. Ever. The people that would tell it, the people that would change it, are the people benefiting the most from it continuing. This winner takes all works great for them...they're all the winners! Even if they push their narratives...even if they ban all guns, label and isolate all the "ill" (a.k.a. the losers.) It solves nothing. The system will inherently produce more "losers." It will keep on exactly as it has been, and the "violence" problem will not change. Ever.
@HobbitGamer - Is that the old mmo set in the DCU? I didn’t realize it’s coming to Switch, but I’d consider it just to mess around a bit. I’ve never played it or any other mmo, but I’d consider it. Did you play it?
@Anti-Matter I think that's probably the real key difference that got lost somewhere along the way of politically indoctrinated scientists. Failure to separate "normal for society" versus "normal based on instinct." A reaction of fear/apprehension to the sights of horror content is hard-wired into the brain as a risk/threat condition...(images of injury/death/decay/attack/threat that can't be defended against) it's an instinct driven response. So in your case, reacting in a different way is definitely not a natural response - though in your case you're aware of the conditions that lead to that response. I think that's probably the key difference that the industry (at least here) forgot. Not acting according to the norms of instinct and innate behavior versus not acting according to cultural societal expectation. In the age of drugs, we've veered hard toward the latter now that we have god-like powers to control human response via drugs, where the former represents an actual problematic response.
IMO It's totally normal @Anti-Matter. It's the fight or flight response all humans have. It just sounds like you have the fight response which is higher levels of adrenaline, anger, and aggression among other things. Which is normal as it is one of the natural responses. However if you lose control and uncontrollable punch and kick at electronics or people and things that is not normal for an adult. But like i said it's just my opinion .
Looks like Former Nintendo Head man Reggie was discussing the same topic of do video games cause gun violence today too. Just hours after the decisions here started.
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@BacklogBlues I think the more interesting thing about Reggie's post is how the heck is Korea the #1 video game market by revenue?!?! And by a wide margin?!? Are all the MMO/MOBA PC whales THAT massive in spending to eclipse all console and mobile spending in the US and China?!? It's not even a populous country! I thought Moon was just doing the political posturing thing with all the video game curfew stuff, but, man, they really do have a serious addiction problem there on a national level.....
Edit: I also like how the responses to his post are a collection of FE3H memes followed by endless Reggie memes....
@bimmy-lee Yep, that’s the one. I’ve not given it a go yet, and the only MMO I really played was Star Trek Online on XB1(Uber awesome btw). I’ll probably play it just to be Batman for awhile, then get bored.
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I will NEVER EVER want to play MMO games anymore. Period.
It sucks 100%.
I have experienced that 10 years ago before i completely changed my mind.
I found Offline games from Handhelds / consoles were more interesting than any MMO games.
Keep moving forward consoles / handheld games, keep destroying all the MMO domination !
@HobbitGamer - I read the article on the main page during lunch. I don’t know why, but I can remember when and where I read a review of that game when it launched. I’ll download it. I’ll try anything free that has a create a character (then usually play for a few minutes and delete). Hoping Swamp Thing is involved.
I still maintain my username Anti-Matter for 2 reasons:
1. Anti-Matter is the name of DDR X2 song. I'm a Huge fan of DDR and i have been playing DDR for 16 years.
2. Anti-Matter sounds like Anti-Mature as i'm against all rated 18+ games and movies.
@Anti-Matter what about resident evil. Is it 18+ or PG
@NEStalgia Ha, by making a couple of typos, you may have actually completely accidentally come up with a couple of new buzz words. I'm certainly going to remember and use "metal health" and "metal illness".
As for the topic at hand: I'm afraid that I couldn't disagree more, my friend. What I mentioned in my previous comment, is EXACTLY what both the problem and the solution is. No if's, and's or but's about it.
First off, if you're not in law enforcement, the military, security and/or wildlife preservation or similar, then there really is no inherent need to have any kind of fire arm in your home, and most certainly not fully automatic ones. Over here in Europe, any gun owned by civilians that are a member of a shooting range, stays at the shooting range, in a personal locker, and can never be taken home, so no gun-related "accidents" could occur.
That's why, nine out of ten times, when killings do occur here, it's by stabbing or bludgeoning. Obviously also not good, but I'm sure that you can imagine that the number of victims is greatly reduced that way. As I said in my previous comment, the people that REALLY want to do bad things, and have access to criminal and/or black market sources, will ultimately still be able to get their hands on a gun, but all the hoops you'd have to jump through, make it far too cumbersome for the average evil and/or deranged person, so they resort to more easily attainable means, and as a result, even though any victim is one too many, the number of casualties is drastically reduced.
So, there literally exists no scenario where not having access/having more limited access to guns isn't better than a world where you can just buy a gun at your local supermarket. To believe that, you'd have to be standing smack dab in the middle of that famous river in Egypt, and it's not too far removed from the beginning of the end. Believing that the surplus of weapons isn't the problem is exactly where the problem lies.
And to elaborate on my previous comment: although it's not fully tied to mental health, more often than not, the individuals doing this definitely ARE highly disturbed or deranged. Whether that comes from them being pushed or whatever, is completely irrelevant, seeing as even someone pushed should still have some modicum of awareness of certain things, angry as all hell or not. Unless of course, they're intellectually challenged, in which case it all becomes one, big red haze. Just look at this idiot in Texas: he truly believed that Mexican and/or colored people were an actual threat to his own livelihood and that of other white people. That's not a person ACTUALLY being cornered or threatened, that's a highly subjective/skewed view, or rather: a perceived threat in the mind of a probably already not too bright and/or pretty volatile person.
And no sane person makes a manifest about such decidedly racist sentiments either. And the other guy kept an actual hit list of people that he wanted to kill. Both examples clearly show that neither of them were thinking straight. If you want to rise up or protest against something, do it in a constructive way, not in a way that pits even more people against each other, which is what violence always does. As the old saying goes: violence only begets violence...
So, taking away or at the very least limiting their access to the means that would allow these individuals to maximize the effects of the damage that they want to do, most certainly IS the solution.
Most of what you just said, is actually the very thing that the NRA thrives on, so that's only playing into their hands, and that is something that no sane person should want to do. The size of the country, the environment, the way of living etcetera may factor into the equation, but more often than not, they aren't of a decisive influence. Besides the fact that there isn't just one society or environment in the States, there's also plenty of similar situations in Europe and Asia, and yet, things like these still don't happen there as much, "oddly enough", which should already give you more than enough pause...
If someone's teeth are rotting away because he eats too much candy and doesn't brush enough to at least mitigate some of the damage, you're not going to solve that by giving him an electric tooth brush and ordering him to brush more often: THAT is fighting the symptom, whereas the solution would be taking away or diminishing his access to candy, which is the actual solution.
And yes, the candy was a metaphor for weapons...
But regardless of all that, it's all theoretical and pointless anyway, and that's where we arrive at the one thing that we do agree upon, which is that nothing will ever change, sadly enough. Guess we'll just have to wait for that cosmic intervention and that massive, unstoppable comet, to finally take care of the human problem for good. Earth is probably in need of a hard reset...
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