@ThanosReXXX I still say (official aside) that's a silly measure of a civilization. Are the French no longer "Pure French" because they've intermingled with other Europeans? That would make little sense. The nature of their era, geography, time, technology, economy, etc created a natural path of adapting to conditions. Expecting them to remain in a medieval culture forever as they were without influence of the cultures around them over centuries and millennia changing their genes and culture with it would be unrealistic even for the most "pure" society. Yet we tend to do that when it comes to "tribes" as though no matter what their culture would never intersect with other cultures and adapt to the world trends in neighboring areas.....MORESO the more powerful and wealthy their own tribe is, as it involves more contact and mixed life with others. I can see judging it by ETHNIC purity largely...but it tends to be gauged on effectively "never modernizing or having contact of any kind outside their own civilization." Which is absurd, at the height of their Empire, the Mayans had trade ships from the Roman empire and China coming and going non-stop, much like today. They were "contaminated" by normal functioning of their own empire long before the Conquistadors decided to bother....long before the Conquistadors even existed... The Mayan empire resembled modern South America more than the medieval Spanish era in terms of global trade and such.
You will NEVER knew when is the end of day.
Regardless you are religious or not, from Science point of view, every solar system have their life span. Nothing is eternal, so don't be scared. Our Earth maybe will be blown away by SuperNova someday, and all the nearby will scaterred away into dust. Every solar system lifespan will be ended.
Speaking about prophecy about doomsday, in my logical thinking it was created by someone or something to scare us and we must believe in Religion X or Y or Z to get salvation. I thought it was like a Competition who can get the best salvation from each religions and each religions has their own pros and cons. I don't think the date of Doomsday can be set exactly like calculator. It just someone made and lied, just for the sake or gain attention or competitive tactics between religions.
Nobody Ever can predict the date of Doomsday and for me Nor even the God or any Supreme being made that ultimatum. I think it's insane to create an universe, colored with some drama by sins and griefs, add with sugar by salvations and then scrap out all made being when the creator is bored.
Whoa, I was totally sucked into a birthday vortex and barely made it out. After 48 hours of partying, everyone left town for the rest of the weekend, and left me behind to finish up some projects. Just me and the dog. Sweet silence.
Looks like I missed out on some good doomsday talk, that’s right up my alley, but it seems like we’ve covered it all. In lieu of that topic, I’ll say that I finally caved on a couple game vouchers just before the deal ended in NA. I guess I have Link’s Awakening and Luigi’s Mansion 3 in the bank then.
@HobbitGamer I really like your EA analogy. Two thumbs up.
@NEStalgia No, it's not stupid, you're just not getting it, or looking at it the wrong way. Your comparison of the Mayans and the French is severely flawed. French people are not a tribe, the Mayans were. If you want to make a correct comparison, then compare the Mayans to the Gauls in France, another tribe that has vanished. Mind you: like the Mayans, vanished as in pure, untainted Gauls. Obviously, there will be some DNA markers in French people pointing to a lineage descending from/being mixed with Gaul origins.
Some other examples of pure lines that have either completely vanished or have been absorbed into other, still existing cultures/civilizations are the Picts, the Celts, the Germanics, Visigoths, Batavians, Nubians, Mesopotamians, Spartans, Minoans, Ligurians, Aquitani, Phoenicians, Etruscans, Thracians, Illyrians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Dacians, Huns, Lemnians, Bulgars (not to be confused with Bulgarians) and Mycenaeans.
As for their trade routes and such, with other ancient civilizations: true, but they never contaminated their DNA by either interbreeding and/or exchanging people to procreate with those other civilizations. Well, at least not according to their own recorded history. All Mayan people were of godly descent, and as such, they could only ever be "given away" or promised to other Mayans. And the more poor part of their civilization were kept as workers, slaves or sacrificial lambs, much like members of competing tribes...
In my previous comment, I was thinking of adding this paint analogy: consider a bucket of white paint. Now put in some glitter, a dash of yellow and red, and a cup of green. My point would have been that this would not be white paint anymore, and as such, not pure, but I found it to be flawed and/or not relevant to this discussion, because with that paint analogy, you're actually able to add components, making the whole bigger than the original, whereas with DNA, there's only a finite number of markers on a strand of a specific species, so if you mix that with another one, then stuff doesn't get added, but replaced, forever changing that DNA to something that will at the most only partially resemble the original strain, and that was my point.
So, yes, the consideration is if a tribe/civilization is still purely what they are, from a genetic standpoint. But in this specific case of the Mayans, it's definitely also cultural and linguistic contamination, much like with the other ancient tribes/civilizations I mentioned above. Some were either forced to adapt the cultures of their oppressors/conquerors, or as we all know, were converted to Christianity, necessitating a complete denial/leaving behind of their own, unique ways and thinking.
As for me, or anyone else, expecting them to stay in their Medieval state: that's not nearly as ridiculous as you make it sound, and I already pre-empted that, by mentioning that indigenous Brazilian tribe, who up to that unfortunate encounter with the Western documenter/camera man, had never seen or heard anything of modern society, and as such was still pure.
It isn't so much about stopping them from modernizing, it's about how all these factors/components are/have been affecting the core of their being and culture.
@Morpheel I heard it on the radio while I was driving into town. Hate it for the community. Violence gonna violence, unfortunately.
@Ninfan I mean, considering that 2012 is over, and 8:73 isn’t a valid measurement of time...how could those be wrong?
@ThanosReXXX I got the analogy from a real experience, sadly. And just like EA, no one invited the kid in the first place. We knew he would complain while we had fun. In other words;
EA: Cmon guys, lets play basketball!
Bethesda: We already are
EA: No, that’s not the right ball, use this one!
Activision: EA, we have a perfectly good ball that works. Why don’t you try it this time
EA: nobody uses that ball, it’s stupid
Bandai: Actually, it turns out it’s a pretty good ball
EA: Nu-uh!! You guys don’t get it, you’re laaaame
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