@Heavyarms55 Actually I generally agree with the majority of what you said, especially the last paragraph. Though I still feel 18 is far (far) too young for voting. Politicians love pushing the ages down because the young generally lack the experience to understand the long term implications of any political arc and are easy to sell any promise. Frankly I think the voting age should be the same age as the requirements for the Presidency (35). It's that age for a reason. You can't make fully informed decisions without being a part of the long term effects of policy for a long time. I think we'd have much, much more stable policies at large. Yes, senators can be 30, reps 25..... but seeing as how Congress never has an approval rating over the teens, it's safe to say they're not an example worth following. Technically thats' what the founding fathers were getting at with "only land owners" voting, both a more mature voting base, and those with "skin in the game" (rather than voting what to do with other people's money which is what we have now.) For various reasons that was a bit too targeted and didn't work well with later changes in the socio-economic system, but the real thinking behind that system was to achieve a similar result.
@ThanosReXXX As for the WWII generation, from most of the guys I've had the pleasure to talk to (including, not discussion, but letters and such left behind from my grandfather from when he signed up, etc), they knew full well what they were getting into. They were a lot more mature at a much younger age than today, because they had to be. Most of them had jobs in their childhood. Not "take your kiddy to work day"...actual jobs. It wasn't fluffy-butt career planning like today. You're born, you do stuff to make money, that's your life, forever. It was the Depression. Survival was their job starting as children. But back then there was a sense of national unity. The public was ambivalent about the war in Europe. But Pearl Harbor, even moreso than 9/11, struck a chord for many. Life was bleak but a sense of national self carried the mood. And then someone dared to take that war from "over there" and bring it "here" (geography notwithstanding.) To so many of them it was a very personal attack, and the knew fully what they were getting into and they were beyond eager to do something about it. Granted, some of them changed their minds once they saw the things they saw in the worst places, Iwo Jima, Normandy, the concentration camps. But I don't think that result would be different if you're 18 or 81 and knowing what you're getting into. But those guys had more life experience by 18 than we'll probably have when we're 81.
I'm bored right now. 😪
At the same time it's time for bedtime, but i still want to play something for a while before i sleep.
Which should i play?
3DS or Switch (Handheld mode) ?
I'm not interested in anything concerning modeling agencies or programs.
Not unless the models wear lingerie or nothing, that is...
@AlohaPizzaJack Hey, man. Preaching to the choir here. Bring on them tropical fruits!
@NEStalgia So, you think they're too young to vote, but not too young to join the army?
Semi-agreed on the whole different times thing, during the great war, but brain development still applies, and that's a biological thing, not a social or economical thing, so hard times do literally nothing to hasten the development of the brain. The very thing you described about younger people basically not being able to see long term effects and so on, applies here as well, albeit only to some extent, seeing as often times, there was no long term effect for the individuals in question. It was of course more of a "for the greater good" thing, and many of them probably went in thinking on the one hand that they were invincible (which is also a pretty good explanation/reason for the supposed eagerness you mentioned), seeing as that is the exact sentiment that often comes with that age (even to this day, in youths of this generation), and on the other hand, most of them will probably have known full-well that there was a considerable chance that they weren't going to come back unscathed, if at all.
Then again: you'd have to wonder if, even while realizing that, they were already fully and mentally aware of the implications and ramifications of that possibility. My sincere guess is that they didn't fully realize all of those factors involved. And I too have spoken to several people (besides listening to wartime stories from my grandfather, who was a prisoner, put to work in a bicycle factory, so he wasn't really a source for that kind of information, but he certainly was able to tell me a lot of stories regardless).
@ThanosReXXX Well, it's a fair bet those models are wearing lingerie...or nothing....so I guess it's game-on for you......
Though I think Anti's point was the age difference of 15-16 (lingerie included) versus 18 for teacher's apprentice, relating to the weird differences in age gaps between allowed things (I think that was the point, anyway.)
As for brain differences....true...but also a different context. Politics is a long, slow, subtle thing that if you haven't experienced it over the long haul, seen the manipulations, seen how well meaning sounding ideas warp and diffuse when applied to humans with power, and develop a lot of cynicism toward ideas that sound good, you can't really understand how voting on one person/idea today might affect things 40 years later if a protected childhood is most of your entire experience with the world. OTOH warfare is a lot more straightforward and less subtle. Sure the politics that determine the escalation of said conflict are intricate, but that's handled by the voting age. Addressing the conflict is generally straight forward of having the iron will and, generally, emotional conviction to see it through. You don't need as much life experience to decide you agree/support a given side of a conflict and want to contribute to it's victory/safety even enduring suffering to do so as it's an immediate risk/reward with obvious ends.
Plus, there's the little problem that by the time you're old enough to understand what's going on, you're in no way physically fit enough, or economically able to drop everything to fight a war. Even if you and I could go and wanted to go into the military.....who would want to carry us back to base every day? I can't even make it back in Quake CTF
Or put another way, military activity is an almost hardwired primitive part of our brains. Defense, aggression, fear, reaction, territorialism, group protection. You don't need elaborate thought from seasoned thinking to have a full understanding of it's directly related to our hardwired thinking. Politics is all in the intellectual spehere that takes a lot of seasoning of nuance to comprehend. OTOH generally the ones that join the military, ALSO understand the nuance of politics at said young age too as it directly affects their present reality in a way that us civvies don't experience, so we're kind of talking "on average" for the population as a whole. However, yes, that feeling of invincibility goes with that age, which is part of why that age us chosen for military use. It's a useful tool. Albeit in real conflict, once they saw action they generally learned otherwise. In that conflict though there was the advantage of the war having been going on in Europe for years already....they'd already heard the reports of how bad things were getting. But at the same time they'd also heard of places important to them getting ravaged considering how much of the population was first, second, or third generation German, French, Italian, Polish, English/Irish at the time, that was the homes of their parents/grandparents getting obliterated, and in some cases distant or not distant relatives being killed over there. It really was personal for so many of them. It's a little different from Nam, Korea, or the Middle-East today, where it was "some other place unrelated to anything personal" for most involved.
Yeah, I don't think it's possible to be FULLY aware of the implications until you see it yourself. But I also don't think that's age dependent. I think it's just seriously not possible to really internalize that without seeing it yourself. And that's what separates the hardened career guys, the guys that proudly get it done, go home, and don't talk much about it, and the guys that are messed up for life. An innate ability to deal with it or not. But you don't find out until you get there.
So, it’s totally acceptable for someone entering a legal name in a medical record to write “Addicted to crack” in the Alias field, right?
Bob “Addicted to crack” Johnson.
Just found 825 records with notes and crap like that populating the alias fields. And the ever so lovely “NA” trashing it up, too. Even putting 3 people on this pulls a caseload of 4 hours.
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@ThanosReXXX: It's sorta surprising that I DIDN'T watch the Jurassic Park movies way back when since I really liked dinosaurs as a kid. Then again, my parents were always sticklers for age ratings, plus they were never personally into sci-fi and fantasy; I got into that stuff on my own.
@AlohaPizzaJack: Some of the string fields in our software receive some crazy entries too. Back when we introduced a new piece that one of our large customers wanted, one of their people in charge of some data entry hated the new system since it was, y'know, a change. Going through old database records and running across stuff like "Bite my [donkey]" usually invites a chuckle or two.
Currently playing: Layton's Mystery Journey: Katrielle and the Millionaires' Conspiracy (Switch)
OK my Dumbo Review. The first half, which is basically the entire original movie, felt extremely rushed and uninspired. The second half was very enjoyable.
Loved the rescue scene with the mermaid and the other circus people. Also liked the new interpretation of the pink elephants, although that felt quite out of place.
The ending felt a little corny with the infomercial and the anachronistic robot arm that appeared out of nowhere, but it was overall a nice diversion.
I don't like whining about having free time, but... I am sitting here at work because I didn't want to use any time off, but there is nothing going on. Other coworkers are chatting but there is just nothing going on today... Ugh... Very abnormal.
I mean, it's way better than being too busy to be sure but... like... why can't we all just go home? Formalities and contracts... The paper says we are here, so we are.
I took a telework day, so I’m only on call for big problems. So far I’ve mowed and weeded, done dishes, sorted mail, done laundry, and I’m about to go to the dump. When is it gaming time?
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