Topic: The Chit-Chat Thread

Context is everything. You won't get the same emotional reaction from watching just a clip to watching an entire movie.

Kinda like seeing Aerith getting stabbed without having played the game.

It's just an ugly early 3D attempt at shock value for some, and a highly emotional moment for others.

Anyway, I won't touch the other side of your discussion. Just so you know it's not like I'm not reading your whole comment, I just chose not to get involved.

@JackEatsSparrows As an adult? I shed tears over Disney movies when I was a kid, but never as an adult. And I'm actually officially classified as being a highly empathic person, but expressions of me being that, occur more in real life events, or in movies with real actors, not in animations meant for kids.

@Delibheel Yeah, I've seen that being mentioned many, many times over the years, as a real tear-jerker in games. Now, I have to confess that I'm not really a fan of any of the 3D Final Fantasy games, so that's already a thing for me, and I can't connect, context or not, with unrealistic events. Being the empathic person that I am, I don't really need context, to adapt anyone or anything's emotions. I can literally start to feel sad, when I see you being sad, without knowing the reason or the cause. But that doesn't work on me with games and/or simple 2D animations.

Was looking underneath the sofa since it loves to devour my earbuds for some reason, and somehow I managed to find an ancient relic from 2017, it was a...FIDGET SPINNER!

@ThanosReXXX Well, as a teen.

Fidget while you spin it!! I lost mine. It was nifty at work while I reviewed paperwork and such. Now I use a stress ball.

I played patty-cake with Jack. I didn’t know you could really ‘lose’ at that. I do now.

Some people are just 99% edge.

Why does this fit so perfectly?

@Vinny Ha! That’s awesome. Inspiration for Mother 4, even. Just leave out that guy in the Mickey Suit. That was creepy 😂

@SheldonRandoms Fidget spinners are already considered ancient now? My, my, the young'uns of today sure move on faster each year...

@JackEatsSparrows Well, there you go, to that I can relate, as well as to what @ReaderRagfihs said. I was in all kinds of emotional states when watching animation when I was much younger. Back then, it was on the same level as with real life action movies, so whether I saw a He-Man cartoon or a Star Wars or Indiana Jones movie, they were all equally exhilarating (or meaningful) to me, and made me feel like acting out the hero parts, along with my friends, but later on in life, animation and real movies grew further and further apart for me, when
I began to discern the impact and (for me personally) also the importance of real emotions, which are just better conveyed in real life, in my opinion and experience.

That's not to say that I can't enjoy a good animation anymore: I still love to watch anime, and Princess Mononoke is probably one of my all time favorites. Great movie and all, but I don't feel anything nearly as strong as with a movie with actual people in them. Could be just me, though, but that's my view on things, and I can't really do anything about the way I feel about that.

@JackEatsSparrows P.S. You can always lose any game, if the opponent has actual claws...

@Link-Hero I don't have "a stigma against feeling emotional over visuals", but I just don't get the same impact from animation that I get from regular movies. It's really not that complicated. And in my opinion, the example given, of Disney's Frog Princess wasn't sad or tear-inducing at all. In fact, I found it rather childish and simplistic, and as such, I can't seriously relate to that, being a 48 year old man.

And while Disney movies do always contain stuff for adults as well, it is still very clear that the majority of the content is for kids, and rightfully so, but that also means that any emotional charge that they may contain, will never be as heavy or intense as any movie that's more geared towards older youths and adults. And as such,
I personally find it really odd, to put it mildly, that a grown man can cry over that.

@Delibheel Edge? Don't you mean to say "some people are 99% edgy"? Either way, that's not what I am either.
But I already tried to explain myself in the first part of this comment, so hopefully, that should make things clear enough.

You lot sure have been running the posting machine today. This topic has jumped a few pages. O_o And here I thought I had a crazy Monday....

I'd watch The Princess and the Frog again, but it's pretty telling when it's a Disney movie that I don't own. I'm pretty fond of the soundtrack overall but found the film itself rather predictable.

Friends On The Other Side is a decent villain song IMO. Probably the only other recent-ish Disney movie villain songs that I like more are Shiny and Mother Knows Best (Well, out of the Disney films I've seen anyway; still need to catch up on a few newer ones).

I like Tiana's friend and her insufferably hyper behavior.

Also beignets. My brother's face lighted up when we visited Disneyland and found beignets in one of the restaurants.

I do like Mother Knows Best, but my favorite disney villain theme might be Poor Unfortunate Souls.

@Link-Hero For me personally, the nuance in the equation is little/moderate emotions vs bigger emotions,
if I compare animations to real movies. It's not that I don't feel anything at ALL, but like I said earlier,
I just don't get that moved by animated movies, no matter how good or engaging they are. I still enjoy them nonetheless, but I won't shed a single tear over them, simply because I can't emotionally relate to puppets or animated characters in the same way or on the same level as real life movies.

And no offense, but to me, it IS weird that a grown man, well into his thirties, can cry about that.
Especially if the material in question is geared towards little children...

By the way, I probably don't have to mention to you, that you might wanna censor the d word, since that'll trigger the mods. And besides: I think that I already explained myself in detail, and I would hope that this would be more than enough to show my actual intent.

Mind you, no major offense taken, because regardless of my age, I'm not THAT old-fashioned, but a little decency does go a long way, so name calling isn't really on my list of things that are considered to be okay...

Amiibo is a physical item that has real world value; in-game microtransactions don't.

Imagine BotW with loot-boxes, instead of only finding your weapons and armor, the prompt to pay $10 to possibly roll for them pops up everywhere in the menu. It takes more $ to unlock many trials and Korok seeds randomly. It's extremely immersion breaking and annoying even if someone isn't susceptible to the exploitation.

It's also insidious. Yes, no one forces players to buy them but it prays on people's weaknesses under the disguise of innocent gaming. It is gambling but gambling has regulations but loot-box has none and is accessible to everyone. Most games that implement the system make sure you SEE and remind you to pay ALL THE TIME.

@ThanosReXXX
"And no offense, but to me, it IS weird that a grown man, well into his thirties, can cry about that.
Especially if the material in question is geared towards little children..."

It's okay for grown up man cry or shed a single tear. 😉

"Crying helps me slow down and obsess over the weight of life's problems."
Quote from Sadness (Inside Out, Disney Pixar)

"Everyone needs a shoulder to cry on
Everyone needs a friend to rely on
When the whole world is gone
You won't be alone cause I'll be there
I'll be your shoulder to cry on
I'll be there
I'll be the one you rely on
When the whole world's gone
You won't be alone
'Cause I'll be there
And when the whole world is gone
You'll always have my shoulder to cry on"

Shoulder to cry on - Tommy Page

@JackEatsSparrows You're not forced to buy them, but they still impact the overall game. No game has ever been better with micro-transactions. And you can bet they'll put incentives in the game to get you to buy them. Assassin's Creed and their $10 EXP boost is a good example. If you ignore most of the side content you're going to hit an EXP wall. So your choice is either grinding for more EXP, or buying the EXP boost. The problem is that it's a paid solution to a problem they created themselves. Why not allow people to skip the side quests and only focus on the main quest? Many RPGs allow for that; and after all, it was Ubisoft who went full ''player's choice'' with their latest AC, then why not give the player the choice to play the game they way they want to play it? For someone like you and I it may not be that big of a deal when you're going after most of the content anyway, but that doesn't mean you can always ignore them. That's why I try to avoid games that have them; there are (still) plenty of games without any MTX available.

@puddinggirl Doesn't really matter. DLC that can be sold out is a terrible practice in theory. It belongs with loot boxes and exclusive pre-order content in the big NO pile.

@puddinggirl @Octane Ah, I hadn’t realized it’s gotten so blatant. The last game I played that had something like that was multiplayer in ME Andromeda, and it doesn’t pop up or feel hampered to make you buy boxes. Sorry to hear it’s gotten worse! Sounds like some freemium mobile games.
Now that I think about it, I have been in a store and overheard a parent asking staff about currency to buy things in CoD.

@Anti-Matter Oh, dear. You misunderstand, AGAIN. If you want to react to one of my comments, then please do me the pleasure of really understanding what it is that I'm trying to tell you.

I mean that I personally, as in MY opinion, find it weird for a full grown man to cry over an animation movie that has content which is primarily meant for little kids.

Of course it is okay for adults to cry, but not because of some childish animated creature...

@Link-Hero Fair enough. Let's move on to more interesting topics then. The whole crying game is water under the bridge for me now...

Gonna have to work on the pickup some this weekend. I already know I need to replace the tension pulley arm, but now I'm hearing a noise at low speeds that's driving me crazy because I don't know what it is. I don't like mystery noise.