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@kkslider5552000 Hmm, your comment made me curious so I just had a looksie to see what best Oscar winner films I saw at their initial cinema runs. I saw Everything Everywhere, Birdman, Parasite and The Shape Of Water. The Shape Of Water I specifically remember as it was a Valentine’s Day date movie and there’s nothing like a showing a lass a weird monster movie to pull her!

Oddly I saw all of last years best pictures nominations before the Oscars apart from Coda which won. It still find it weird it won as it was so boringly safe and sentimentally tidy like a TV movie but it’s down to other films failing to win rather than Coda winning with Dune forgetting that movies need an ending, West Side Story was too predictable to win, The Power Of The Dog had Netflix stigma attached to it and Drive My Car and Licorice Pizza were both solid but lacking must see buzz.

@RR529 All Quiet On The Western Front won best foreigner's flick though. I think Tar and The Banshees Of Inisherin not winning anything was a bigger shame, both of their leads gave better performances but Brendan Fraser and Michelle Yeoh had better context to win.

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@jump
Brendan Fraser pulled off the old Tom Hanks / Daniel Day Lewis / Dustin Hoffman trick of the disability - but in this case rather than sanctimonious Acting just pissed off everyone. It's not exactly Precious or Heavy.

Not seen Licorice Pizza, but isn't it about an adult seducing a teenager? That daily Hollywood activity.

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@Rambler Yeah The Whale is rubbish. I'd even argue that Brendan wasn't the standout performance in the film with whatshername from The Menu and Watchmen was better.

In addition to underage shenanigans there’s also Asian mockery shenanigans too in Licorice Pizza. It’s just another indie coming of age dramedy, it’s solid but if you take off Paul Thomas Anderson's name it wouldn’t stand out nearly as much.

I’m having to resort to Pizza as after a really good 4/5 films the selections the nominations get really weak that year as Don't Look Up’s comedy didn't work for me as the satire (whilst valid) has been done to death now and Nightmare Alley which I liked felt very stuck in second gear. I would have put Titane in (which I loved) but it was never gonna be an Oscar movie and The Green Knight is an oddity so I can’t see it being in the running, maybe Flee too but it already overperformed by breaking out of the cartoon award (in your face Shrek and Disney) by being nominated for best foreigner’s film.

I’m assuming anything with greater aspirations like (Everything Everywhere) was held back from being a 2021 film so it could release in 2022 with less worry about covid restrictions affecting turnouts resulting in the weak year.

Edit, also after a quick google search Passing, Annette and The Worst Person In the World came out in 2021 too, I liked all of those but they don’t scream best Oscar movie though.

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@jump, yeah, someone over on Push Square corrected me on it's awards wins (it also won cinematography and set design I believe, along with something else). It actually won the most awards behind EEAAO.

Forgot I only came into the show part way in.

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Being ill sucks but at least I can binge some movies!

13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers Of Benghazi, I met someone who use to be a mercenary and he said this is the most realistic portrayal of what it is actually like being a mercenary so I gave this a watch with that in mind. It's shocking to realise after seeing this that Deadpool and The Expendables aren't realistic! It's a Michael Bay film so yeah I didn't expect much however it's a surprisingly grounded effort from him, not brilliant yet far from the lows you'd expect given the director.

The Party's Just Beginning, Karen Gillan's directorial debut about a binge drinker, casual sex haver and depressed sardonic 20 something with unprocessed trauma in a rubbish job played by Karen herself. There's nothing ground breaking as there's plenty of those "get yourself together young person as it's time to be an adult" indie films already but it has the right mix of compelling hard truth, humour and bleak energy which made it worth the watch and these movies should always be made as it's not about connecting with everyone but instead connecting with someone.

Knock At The Cabin, I read the book it was based on so I was looking forward to seeing it until I saw M Night was the director. In fairness it's probably the most I've enjoyed a M Night film since Split and the plot twist of there's no plot twist is genius considering he's now infamous for that rubbish. My main takeaway though is Davey Boy Bautista is slowly continuing his ascent to becoming a proper character actor unlike The Rock and casting like this of looking an imposing mutha fudger but playing a soft teacher works nicely.

Top Gun 2: Electric Boogaloo, it's impressively built like an 80s flick even if it's a wart and all 80s movie. The action and nostalgia is all nice but jebus the characters are all paper thin, it's only Val Kilmer with the power of he has cancer in real life too that stands out from the cast which is a shame as there's some proper talent in it like Ed Harris, Jennifer Connelly, Jon Hamm etc. The best bits of the film was noticing things I shouldn't be noticing like the non-naming of the bad guy country so they can sell it internationally and how they were using perspective to hide how short Tom Cruise is in the obligatory topless playing on the beach scene.

Ghost Writer, I didn’t realise this was a Roman Polanski film until after I watched it…bugger. There was lots of great tense dialogue driven scenes but the big revelation at the end just kinda lacked any punch due to how stupidly it was exposed otherwise it’s a decent political thriller taking a jab at Tony Blair which no on should watch because we need to believe in cancel culture!

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@Colonel_Mustache They didnt use Madagascar in the DreamWorks opening logo because they wanted to troll a little bit.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAy there.

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So I just watched Del Toro’s Pinocchio, and overall I thought it was pretty good. Probably an 8/10 overall. I thought the animation and story were fantastic. I was not expecting it to be as dark as it was, and there’s actually a lot more themes about death and war than I thought there would be. The animation was also stellar, which is to be expected.

The only problems I had with the movie were the humor and the music. I thought many of the jokes were out of place, and the slapstick with Cricket was usually always poorly timed. This movie’s also sort of a musical, and unfortunately, none of the songs were very good or memorable to me. They just kind of take up space and don’t add much overall.

But overall, I really enjoyed it and I’m glad it got recognition at the Oscars. I still think The Last Wish should’ve won, as that was easily the best movie I watched last year. But I can see why the Oscars favored this one instead.

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I bloody loved Polanski as a teenager - Knife in the Water, Cul De Sac, Repulsion (esp), Rosemary's Baby, Chinatown, The Tenant are all superb films. How he has been allowed to keep making films, and has actually been defended is unbelievable.

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@Rambler Yeah, it's not just he's making films but he's making Hollywood backed films with A list actors and getting nominated for major-major awards. There's been a shift of narrative since he had to flee the country though as before he had good will from his movies, pity from the Charles Manson murders and she was only underage rather than it being forced child sex but with #metoo and more victims coming out it's kinda put a stop to it now. At least with Hollywood as he's banned from the Oscars now (although if he turns up to the Oscars they can arrest him there so they have ruined a perfect trap!) so he seems to be making just French films but their legal age of consent is 13 or at least until very recently though.

Same thing happened with whatshisname who made Jeepers Creepers who still works. He's a registered child sex offender and halfway through making Powder Disney realised they had hired a registered child sex offender to direct kids...

I know people like to put it down to well that’s Hollywood or Disney are grooming kids by including one of those homo-sexuals in the films but just to point out the obvious because some people are thick, the problem is of society at large as a lot of the folk on this very forum watch their underage jiggle cleavage anime which they will happily defend and I’ve been on enough night outs where I’ve seen random guys try to pull young girls without being sure of how exactly young they are.

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@jump Young girls or underage girls? I ask because there is a huge difference in the legal system ... well everywhere If they are underage there should NOT be a thing like a "night out" for them.

Other than that, I think all people should start going out with some tools of defense or something like that.

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@Zuljaras why shouldn’t teens have night outs? Fun should not be restricted to old farts and it’s an important part of growth so they can learn street smarts and social skills. I’m worried about those 15-18 year olds during the lockdown years will end up as sad shut in incels as they lack the experiences learnt you can only get from real life at that age.

Hmm…I can’t see any sort of issue with everyone in all the pubs, bars and clubs in the world being armed with automatic rifles, samurai swords and chainsaws for defence whilst they are heavily inebriated.

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@jump Because the predators are more active in the night hours Day outs also sounds better.

People (parents mostly) need to know the risks of having fun social life. Especially in places that are hunting grounds for perverts (old farts).

Also, in our "modern" society "street smarts" is a completely different thing. And incels are not made by no human interaction, they chose to be mentally disabled.

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@Zuljaras Predators tend to be groomers, that vast majority of cases have pre-existing relationships rather than it being like a movie when you walk down a dark alley and a stranger attacks.

I'm scared to ask what you think choosing to be mentally disabled is.

This reminds me of Brass Eye featuring a young pre-Shaun Of The Dead Simon Pegg!

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@jump From my point of view incels are violent and hateful because they did not get what they wanted. In their case a successful relationship

So, they act like the other side is in the wrong and that is why they build up hate. In my words they are screwed in the head by their own behavior and twisting reality. Maybe "disabled" was not the right word, I am replacing it with "mentally screwed"!

And I do not think that "not going out/having night outs" is producing incels.

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There's a Vox article that I stumbled upon recently that portrays him in a very negative light that has altered my opinion of him.
I won't link it here as it is, IMHO, triggering, but should be easy to find.

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@Zuljaras Yep but their inability to form a connecting relationship comes from their inability to form a connecting relationship. We have seen the memes of incel pick up lines like "I want to be your knight and build a moat around you to protect you in our castle where I will listen to you talk about your feelings because I am a good guy and you are a good girl and we will be happy forever and ever" type drivel (which are sadly real, a mate of mine showed me some messages she got which were pretty much that) which is a massive red flag for women so they will ignore those guys because they lack the basic social skills to know how stupid that is which should have been built up in their younger years where failing to flirt wasn’t such an issue. If only there was some kind of public house, party or club where you can interact with people you don't know to improve those types of social skills.

Besides it's not just being an incel, it's being sad and a shut in too. I've already starting see the lack of street smarts and social skills in the yoof that couldn't go out in their party teen years because of lockdowns and those that did like they can't navigate through the city by themselves unlike those that went out drinking in the park at night and finding their way home from the clubs in the early hours or can't hold court when talking to people at work as they were never exposed to new and different people like when you meet randoms on a night out. I'm not saying all teens should as some will be shut ins no matter what but I am finding it sad that a big chuck of kids are lacking those basic life building skills now.

@Rambler Jebus, I only knew the details the one girl which he left America for because the DA offered him a deal and then backed out of it and definitely not how old that girl is in the article!

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Woo, another day of watching films whilst not working!

The Martian, after rewatching it I have to say what is maybe an unpopular opinion but it’s better than Blade Runner, Gladiator, Alien and all of Ridley Scott’s other films! It’s just delightful watching people using their smarts to solve problems. I’ve forgotten how deep the cast is too with Donald Glover, Sebastian Stan, Mackenzie Davis, Benedict Wong, Kate Mara etc in nothing roles.

The Gentleman, Guy Ritchie geezer nonsense but all jolly good fun. It’s a interesting plot point that the crusty old money families in the UK can't afford their massive estates so they have to sublet their land to drug dealers. Hugh Grant is great as an unlikable punchable prat.

Wrath Of Man, another Guy Ritchie film but now with added Jason Statham! It’s less bloke in the pub doing crimes and tries to be tense dark driven thriller which it succeeds at but not nearly as fun or as good as the likes of Lock Stock or Snatch which made Guy Ritchie.

My Best Friends Exorcism, I heard it being called this gen’s Ginger Snap so maybe it’s because I’m not a tween but I just didn’t feel it. There’s a few clever moments here or there however the tone shifts too much, things feel rushed, jokes are rubbish which is a shame as there might be a good film somewhere in it. Maybe the kids just like it because it's kids in the 80s doing Stranger Things things, it's so weird this forced pop culture nostalgia for a time they didn't live in.

White Noise, I was a bit disappointed by this as on paper Noah Baumbach behind Marriage Story and Frances Ha directing Adam Driver and Greta Gerwig again based on a famous clever book (which I’ve never read) should be a win, however I just found it all very muddled or maybe I’m just off and could not follow along with the movie.

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For those of you who like Puss In Boots, The Bad Guys, and in my case, Trolls... DreamWorks revealed a new movie today. Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kracken.

Personally, liking how it looks so far. Ruby looks cute, and the animation looks great!

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