Topic: Movie thread.

Full Disney 100 years logo.
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watched Rawhead Rex on Tubi earlier today. Not a bad movie but not much backstory on the Rawhead monster

Now Im watching Street Fighter II the Movie

Really looking forward to this one as I had a great time with the first film. I'm someone who has long grown out of fairy tales and just Disney animation in general, but I felt that the first Enchanted struck a nice balance between paying tribute to Disney fairy tales while also deconstructing some of the more dated stereotypes in them, so it's one of the few Disney films I would still bother checking out. Plus, I really, really enjoyed the music, something that hasn't happened in Disney films for a long time (I even like the songs more than those in Frozen).

This sequel looks like it will be yet again playing around with the typical fairy tale formula as Giselle makes a fairy tale wish gone wrong, so that should be interesting to see.

In other news, I know that Disney's recent Little Mermaid live action trailer has been getting a lot of flak for casting a black Ariel, but as someone who's usually annoyed by Disney's recent live action remakes, the gender-swap isn't really an issue for me as I enjoyed the '90s Cinderella starring Brandy, a black woman playing a white character. I grew up with that film and I greatly enjoyed the music. Plus, it's definitely one of the most diverse cast I've seen in a Disney film way before it's cool to perform diversity hiring, including having an Asian man as the prince. So the gender-swapping isn't really the issue to be concerned about, but whether the writing would be good, fresh and original or not, instead of repackaging your childhood nostalgia in a live action format without bothering to tell a fresh new story.

To go back to the '90s Cinderella, which was essentially the second remake of Rodgers and Hammerstein's musical of the same name, it felt distinctly different enough with its script and even casting that I felt like it was a more intriguing Cinderella movie than the animated one I was too young to have seen as a kid, but have seen as an adult. I thought that the two different films were distinct from one another, not just in terms of the lazy method of swapping animation for live action, which is what the recent slews of live action remakes have done, but also incorporating new songs even the musical didn't have in a Cinderella film. And I also really love how the evil stepmother has a black daughter too, so you know it's not a race thing. Plus, Bernadette Peters killed it as a pretty sympathetic stepmother who's kinda vain, but you could also see she's jaded by her past romance that made her take it out on Cinderella (she literally said so in one of the songs).

@Rambler just use a vpn to mask your ip as American and you will be able to get on it. There are loads of free ones.

There is a down side where your laptop then goes crazy calling chips French fries, tells you free healthcare is crazy and ask you to pour syrup on your breakfast.

Mermaids can look like anything, they are fantasy creatures.

I can’t decide if I hate or like Malignant. It is completely mis-sold as a horror film and it’s too straight to be a silly b-movie despite being a silly b-movie. Still the movie stuffed with wtf energy, I think there was at least 3 scenes where I had to loudly shout wtf at the movie.

@Rambler Santa Sangre has been on my to watch list for a while, I never see it pop on my various streaming thingys.

The film is an interesting mess, once the pliot twist happens it has a sharp tonal shift from a serious horror movie you are meant to watch at home in the dark to become a movie you're meant to watch with a crowd for the energy and yucks.

Once you see that thing it's ridiculous, I would post a pic of it but spoilers and I imagine it would freak out a few thread regulars. Just remembered the forum has spolier tags.

@jump

@Rambler lemme guess the elephant doesn't make it.

@Kermit1 Yes, you're the one I'm referring to as getting freaked out. I once posted a pic of a the fat guy from Legion and you then had ahem an over reaction to it.

Also Legion is probably the most innovative, beautiful and intelligently made thing from Marvel ever. I'm amazed do many people wont watch it as they prefer the formula of quips, jaunty costumes and hitting the bad guy till the good guy wins MCU stuff.

@Rambler I've seen Santa Sangre pop up on a few 100 best films ever lists so I will get around to it sooner or later. I'm surprised I not seen it on All4 as it's the type of movie I'd expect them to have.

@jump I know... I regret that... I was hyped up on caffeine, I've quit the stuff so I can think better.

@Rambler #PhysicalMedia4ever... I technically have 4 DVD players, two of them can play Blu-Rays the other two are portable.

and if you count PC's and old Laptops, that makes 9.

Oh no. dis is nota good.

This three year old video aged well:

Black Panther can look like anything; he's a fictional character. Let's make him white.

Hey, let's make Luke Skywalker black too. Let's make Ash Ketchum a black man too. Why stop there? Let's make Mario a black man, because DIVERSITY sells.

Actually, if you're really going to be diverse, I would rather you make Mario Asian. I want representation. Where's my Chinese Mario? That's racist. lol Are you saying the Chinese and Japanese don't matter as much as black people? Is that why we have a lot of black versions of white princesses, but not Asian variations of Cinderella and Snow White? Which is it, Disney and Hollywood? You can't be leaning one way with your race card without leaning against other races too. It's hypocritical. If you're going to sell diversity to me, at least make it appealing to MY race, sheesh. Because isn't that what it's all about these days? My gender vs. your gender, my race vs. your race. Tribalism packaged in your little childhood media. Hooray!

Oh this again lol, why do people even care. Listen fairy tales can and will be altered, nothing you can do about it. Established IP's within original universes (not derived from fairy tales) are a little different. In the end why do you even give a crap. @Maxenmus You can't tell me you're gonna be like those Rings of Power fans who are like f*** this show it's medieval there shouldn't be black characters. I'm not even someone who pushes for diversity, I don't care either way, a character is a character and there have been other changes to these live action Disney movies that have been much worse than changing someone's skin color.
I actually was shown a video earlier today of little black girls reacting to the trailer, and the fact that she had brown skin, it was very cute.

Edit: With your newest edit, I can acknowledge your side of the argument, and really, a lot of times all this focus on diversity can just push more gaps between races and that's not okay. But with something minor like this little mermaid thing I just... don't think it matters enough. Take a look at things like Eternals... yeesh. You can sometimes really tell when they're just trying to dodge "cancel culture" and be "politically accurate."

@FroZtedFlake My Mom knows her fairy tales and she's completely fine with Ariel being black, and my Mom loves that original movie.

Oh, I don't really care, if you bothered at all to read one of my earlier posts on the previous page about a black Cinderella (I'm sure you skipped that and jumped down my throat without context). I didn't even bother watching Rings of Power either because 1) not a Lord of the Rings fan, and 2) I heard the writing sucks. It has nothing to do with race, which is why it's so hilarious that articles are writing that "RACIST TROLLS ARE HATING ON RINGS OF POWER."

It's this little excuse corporations use to defend bad writing. People didn't hate Rings of Power just because of the race-swapping - again, if you bother to read my Cinderella post at all, you'd know that's my point, that race isn't the factor here - people didn't like it because of the cringey Mary Sue Galadriel got turned into.

And as for The Little Mermaid, to be honest with you, I didn't want to talk about it at first, because again, if you bothered at all to read my post about the '90s black Cinderella, you know that race-swapping is rarely my issue with a film. They swapped out an Asian for a white woman in Dr. Strange for god's sake, and I'm Chinese. But even so, it's hilarious to call out the hypocrisy of Disney and these Hollywood studios patting themselves on their back for "celebrating diversity" when it's more like they're profiting off diversity. Again, if they really want to celebrate diversity, where's my Asian Mario? I'm starting to feel left out here that not enough white princesses are replaced with Asians. lol

@Kermit1 Exactly. Most regulars to Disney media, including me, have no problem with it at all. Seriously, when people call out the fact that they're trying for diversity, it's kind of hypocritical. By calling attention to the thing you don't want attention called to, and starting dram, you're just making it worse. Have you ever considered they're aiming to normalize a wider variety of races instead of "diversify." (Let's be honest with this example it's Disney, so the end goal is most definitely to diversify, but you get the gist).

Let's be even more honest, with Disney, the end goal has always been about making big loads of money off since Walt Disney died.