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Mioaionios

Kermit1 wrote:

"Treat others how you want to be treated"

I also try to live by that standard. I do a lot of volunteer work for instance.

I learned a lot about the Lumière brothers, Georges Méliès and early filmmaking in general from Martin Scorsese's Hugo. Love that film!

Mioaionios

jump

Maxy, it kinda feels like you're reaching as nothing I said was policing, I didn't threaten to report people, I didn't throw the rules around, I didn't demand people to stop etc.

I do get I am such a fabulous poster that even the users who put me on their ignore lists are still invested in what I have to say it however does make it very hard to have a conversation. You are gonna need to take me off the ignore list so we can talk or you need to actually ignore me as this is very silly.

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Alright, I gotta stop getting into arguments with jump. Someone remind me next time.

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Sunsy

jump wrote:

I never understood why people obsess over Disney so much. If you love Disney great but there so much misery and complaining all the time. It just seems exhausting to manufacture outrage at remakes of some 100 year old movie and being disgusted with Hulks who are females when you don't need to watch them. Just step out of your Disney shaped comfort zone as there are literally hundreds of other legit amazeballs shows/movies which so many people have sincere enthusiasm so why not join them instead of aduts trying to keep up this unhealthy bitterness towards a company that makes things for the kiddies.

As someone who loves Disney movies, as well as other kid/family friendly animated movies and shows, I can't help but agree with this. I often see complaining online, and I see it going nowhere as said company just doesn't change. It's fine having opinions on a company or movie, but complaining about it seems to go nowhere from what I've seen.

It's also important to remember, like it or not, Disney's target is today's kids. Much like they targeted me when I was a kid. Also, this does not mean the movies can only be enjoyed by kids. I'm an adult, and I still love family friendly animated movies, Disney ones and ones not by Disney. Guess I'm young at heart.

Not to mention my favorite animated movie series isn't even a Disney-made series.

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jedgamesguy

Sunsy wrote:

jump wrote:

I never understood why people obsess over Disney so much. If you love Disney great but there so much misery and complaining all the time. It just seems exhausting to manufacture outrage at remakes of some 100 year old movie and being disgusted with Hulks who are females when you don't need to watch them. Just step out of your Disney shaped comfort zone as there are literally hundreds of other legit amazeballs shows/movies which so many people have sincere enthusiasm so why not join them instead of aduts trying to keep up this unhealthy bitterness towards a company that makes things for the kiddies.

As someone who loves Disney movies, as well as other kid/family friendly animated movies and shows, I can't help but agree with this. I often see complaining online, and I see it going nowhere as said company just doesn't change. It's fine having opinions on a company or movie, but complaining about it seems to go nowhere from what I've seen.

It's also important to remember, like it or not, Disney's target is today's kids. Much like they targeted me when I was a kid. Also, this does not mean the movies can only be enjoyed by kids. I'm an adult, and I still love family friendly animated movies, Disney ones and ones not by Disney. Guess I'm young at heart.

Not to mention my favorite animated movie series isn't even a Disney-made series.

The Disney thing is interesting since so many companies are owned by Disney now. So saying that “oh, I hate Disney, I’ll stop watching Disney stuff!” isn’t as feasible as it was twenty years ago. And Disney for me’s lost that feeling it had when I was younger and watching their films for the first time. But as Sunsy says their audience is today’s kids. At the same time though the Renaissance films were timeless, watchable by everybody, not just 80s or 90s kids.

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Kermit1

I can't stop watching Disney because Disney is everything. They really should be called Rome.

disney is the walrus

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HotGoomba

TheJGG wrote:

Sunsy wrote:

jump wrote:

I never understood why people obsess over Disney so much. If you love Disney great but there so much misery and complaining all the time. It just seems exhausting to manufacture outrage at remakes of some 100 year old movie and being disgusted with Hulks who are females when you don't need to watch them. Just step out of your Disney shaped comfort zone as there are literally hundreds of other legit amazeballs shows/movies which so many people have sincere enthusiasm so why not join them instead of aduts trying to keep up this unhealthy bitterness towards a company that makes things for the kiddies.

As someone who loves Disney movies, as well as other kid/family friendly animated movies and shows, I can't help but agree with this. I often see complaining online, and I see it going nowhere as said company just doesn't change. It's fine having opinions on a company or movie, but complaining about it seems to go nowhere from what I've seen.

It's also important to remember, like it or not, Disney's target is today's kids. Much like they targeted me when I was a kid. Also, this does not mean the movies can only be enjoyed by kids. I'm an adult, and I still love family friendly animated movies, Disney ones and ones not by Disney. Guess I'm young at heart.

Not to mention my favorite animated movie series isn't even a Disney-made series.

The Disney thing is interesting since so many companies are owned by Disney now. So saying that “oh, I hate Disney, I’ll stop watching Disney stuff!” isn’t as feasible as it was twenty years ago. And Disney for me’s lost that feeling it had when I was younger and watching their films for the first time. But as Sunsy says their audience is today’s kids. At the same time though the Renaissance films were timeless, watchable by everybody, not just 80s or 90s kids.

I feel bad for the people who watch National Geographic.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAy there.

jump

@Kermit1 Which picture represents him being a plonker?

@TheJGG I wouldn't say it's not feasible. I know someone who has worked on a few major Star Wars, Marvel and a live action Disney princess movies and shows and this person was telling a film buff who has kids about it but the film buff hadn't seen any of them, which is a fairly common reaction not through any conscious bias or lack of awareness of what Disney is but because they'd rather watch other things. This I must absorb any and all Disney films/shows is really more abnormal for adults than not watching any Disney things at all.

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Kermit1

@jump the hammer. because hammers plonk things.

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Kermit1

HotGoomba wrote:

I feel bad for the people who watch National Geographic.

Thank you.

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Mioaionios

Finally saw Nope and loved it.
This is probably my favourite movie directed by Jordan Peele so far.
I've always loved movies in which extra-terrestrials visit earth, but we get so few good ones nowadays. The last one I loved as much as Nope was 2016's Arrival.

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Maxenmus

Sunsy wrote:

jump wrote:

I never understood why people obsess over Disney so much. If you love Disney great but there so much misery and complaining all the time. It just seems exhausting to manufacture outrage at remakes of some 100 year old movie and being disgusted with Hulks who are females when you don't need to watch them. Just step out of your Disney shaped comfort zone as there are literally hundreds of other legit amazeballs shows/movies which so many people have sincere enthusiasm so why not join them instead of aduts trying to keep up this unhealthy bitterness towards a company that makes things for the kiddies.

As someone who loves Disney movies, as well as other kid/family friendly animated movies and shows, I can't help but agree with this. I often see complaining online, and I see it going nowhere as said company just doesn't change. It's fine having opinions on a company or movie, but complaining about it seems to go nowhere from what I've seen.

I could say the same about complaining about anything at all, which I've seen a lot from this forum alone. I also don't see what the big deal is, since all I did was express why I didn't like the company in response to others. It's not as if I created an entire new thread just to hate on Disney, or called out Disney out on nowhere when no one's talking about Disney. People talked about Disney, I shared an opinion on why I didn't like them, that's it. Let's not make anything more out of that. No one's going on a crusade to boycott Disney. I merely responded to a Disney-related discussion.

And besides, while you criticize others for complaining about Disney, your complaining about their complaining won't really change those people's minds either if they're passionate enough to complain in the first place. Does that mean you should stop complaining as well?

Sunsy wrote:

It's also important to remember, like it or not, Disney's target is today's kids. Much like they targeted me when I was a kid. Also, this does not mean the movies can only be enjoyed by kids. I'm an adult, and I still love family friendly animated movies, Disney ones and ones not by Disney. Guess I'm young at heart.

Never really my point, as I've stated to Anti-Matter. The fact that Disney films can be enjoyed by adults doesn't invalidate the fact that the main target of their merch has often been kids with their "Disney magic." Maybe you don't see the way they peddle that childhood innocence I do (the way a hustler peddles his ware), and that's fair. But I merely commented that I did have such an observation, and it felt scummy.

TheJGG wrote:

But as Sunsy says their audience is today’s kids. At the same time though the Renaissance films were timeless, watchable by everybody, not just 80s or 90s kids.

So you do admit that their target audience is today's kids then? Cool. That was my point. Grooming kids into buying their merch. Whether the Renaissance films were watchable by anyone else is irrelevant.

TheJGG wrote:

The Disney thing is interesting since so many companies are owned by Disney now. So saying that “oh, I hate Disney, I’ll stop watching Disney stuff!” isn’t as feasible as it was twenty years ago.

Possibly, but not everything is owned by Disney yet. The monopoly is big, but not big enough yet.

Besides, no one said anything about all Disney stuff. I was merely talking about the animated Disney films that try to peddle their magic-cocaine to kids.

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Mioaionios

@Maxenmus
Guess studios shouldn't be making movies targeted towards kids anymore and try to sell merch.

All those Transformers and TMNT toys from the '80s and 90's? All predatory.
Lego making Batman vehicles? Shouldn't be allowed either because kids love them.
All that Harry Potter merch? Throw it in the fire.

See where I'm getting at here? Why single out Disney? Everybody does it.

By the way; this is the final post I make about this topic, hoping it dies soon. Thanks.

Mioaionios

Maxenmus

Mioaionios wrote:

@Maxenmus
Guess studios shouldn't be making movies targeted towards kids anymore and try to sell merch.

All those Transformers and TMNT toys from the '80s and 90's? All predatory.
Lego making Batman vehicles? Shouldn't be allowed either because kids love them.
All that Harry Potter merch? Throw it in the fire.

See where I'm getting at here? Why single out Disney? Everybody does it.

By the way; this is the final post I make about this topic, hoping it dies soon. Thanks.

It will die when you stop making passive-aggressive posts to put me down. Until then, I'll keep defending my stance because if you refuse to see where I'm coming from, why should I? I also find it funny whenever someone who loses an argument tries to shut down the conversation because the other person has a point and your ego couldn't handle the defeat, so you try to insert some meaningless "last word in" as a last-ditch effort to make yourself look better. Amidst all our talks of cancel culture and silencing people, your whole argument is ironically based on "Shut up, we don't like what you have to say about our favorite company."

Also, you're responding in hyperbole and exaggerated what I said. Other studios do it too, but Disney's marketing often includes messages about the innocence of childhood that Transformers and Harry Potter films don't include explicitly. Their whole brand is to "Revisit the magic of your childhood." If you don't see it, that's fine. That's your opinion.

See, that's why I prefer talking to @Kermit1 about unpopular opinions. Kermit at least tries to see why you're so passionate about what you're saying instead of aggressively shooting down every single point of yours.

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HotGoomba

@Maxenmus People are just overblowing what you're saying lmao. I don't 100% agree with you, but at least I see your point.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAy there.

Maxenmus

HotGoomba wrote:

@Maxenmus People are just overblowing what you're saying lmao. I don't 100% agree with you, but at least I see your point.

I know, right? We were having a nice conversation about Disney that later switched to Jurassic World, and people acted like I, and me alone, not you HotGoomba or Kermit1, went on pages talking about Disney alone, when I was only responding to your Disney-related posts. That's what people do in a conversation - they respond to each other and express their viewpoints.

And it's like, I didn't attack you at all, HotGoomba, for disagreeing with me, so it's not even about getting upset over people disagreeing with my opinion. I thought we were having a nice time talking to each other.

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Kermit1

Maxenmus wrote:

See, that's why I prefer talking to @Kermit1 about unpopular opinions. Kermit at least tries to see why you're so passionate about what you're saying instead of aggressively shooting down every single point of yours.

I didn't see this @. Did you edit the post with the @ in it? I'm trying to put together why weird stiff is happening with @-ing people.

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Snatcher

Who cares if something is targeted for kids, I do think disneys target is more towards kids, but that doesn’t mean they don’t put out a movie that can’t be enjoyed by all. It’s just lest often the. It used to me in my opinion.

Big surprise a company try’s to get kids to buy their merch, it’s as if there trying to make money lol. Cough Ben 10 Cough Cough

I only really have a problem with merch if it ends up effecting the content. Biggest example for me is Ben 10.

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