Topic: Movie thread.

@Maxenmus sometimes I like to forget when a film came out and just watch it.

@Rambler I'm in heaven thank you!!

@Rambler The site, gave me a Norton warning... 10/10 site design

@Maxenmus The Disney one IS the Netflix one, but to be fair it wasn't directly made by the hands of Disney, rather ABC Signature, which is a division of ABC, which is a subsidiary of Disney.

But if you're referring to the actual characters IN the MCU, yeah they've been Disneyified, but that's what happens when you put a character from a TV-MA series in a TV-14 show on Disney+. I say on Disney+ because I'm pretty sure there are some pretty violent TV-14 shows out there. Hopefully the upcoming Disney+ Daredevil series will have some actual violence.

At least Deadpool 3 will probably be rated R, whenever that happens.

Oh but yeah, Disney as a corporation sucks. The Spider-Man tombstone and school thing was awful, their takeover of the film industry is just sad too.

But hey, at least Disney isn't throwing away people's passions off a streaming platform (cough cough, Warner Bros Discovery). I mean that's kinda because Disney barely gives them a chance in the first place, but let me have this one.

Oh and since you mentioned Jurassic World, here's a unpopular opinion: all the Jurassic World movies are bad. I haven't seen the third one, but I bet that one's bad too.

@HotGoomba I liked the third Jurassic World movie more than all three Star Wars sequel movies....

I can't wait for Jurassic Land in 2028 (if they do more, I want them to go full dystopian with them)

@Kermit1 @HotGoomba That's fine, I had a feeling it was an unpopular opinion since most dislike Disney doing live action versions. I still love that they kept Pinocchio himself faithful to the original Disney movie, which is usually rare for animated-to-live action.

Will admit, that stop motion Pinocchio does look good too! Liking Disney's Pinocchio as a kid opened me up to other adaptations of the classic story. Also, I remember reading the Collodi family actually hated the Disney adaptation.

While I'm not a roller coaster guy, I can't argue this. I can meet Poppy and Branch from Trolls if I went to Universal's park.

Edit: fixed live action to stop motion when referring to @Kermit1's post.

I felt like the first one at least had a potentially clever script calling out on movie remakes and reboots, but it did the Scream thing of mocking movie cliches while also having those movie cliches in the script. It mocked movie remakes for being shallow corporate decisions of cashing in on people's nostalgia, and then proceeded to have a T-Rex win the fight at the end because of said nostalgia. WHAT?!

And everything I heard about Fallen Kingdom was just terrible. lol

I feel like the first Jurassic Park had a kind of Hitchcockian thriller vibe that has never really been replicated in the sequels, even in the Spielberg-directed The Lost World: Jurassic Park, of which some parts of the movie I did like despite its notoriety. The T-Rex breakout scene is still legendary because of how Spielberg framed the scene as a horror film:

Why does it not surprise me that P.L. Travers wasn't the first person to have her work vandalized by Disney? lol

I'm not sure people realize how boycotts works, if you are using one product from Disney but not paying for another product from them then it's not really a boycott. Also food for thought, boycotts are really just cancel culture.

I never understood why people obsess over Disney so much. If you love Disney great but there so much misery and complaining all the time. It just seems exhausting to manufacture outrage at remakes of some 100 year old movie and being disgusted with Hulks who are females when you don't need to watch them. Just step out of your Disney shaped comfort zone as there are literally hundreds of other legit amazeballs shows/movies which so many people have sincere enthusiasm so why not join them instead of aduts trying to keep up this unhealthy bitterness towards a company that makes things for the kiddies.

I never understood why people feel obligated to defend billion dollar companies who don't care about your white-knighting. It's the equivalent of putting celebrities on a pedestal, like what we talked about. I don't really have problems calling out on a shady company like Disney on their BS. A forum is a suitable place for me to express my feelings and annoyance, especially towards a faceless corporation full of billionaires that don't really care about the average working-class people. And if you don't like a show or what its content stands for, I don't personally believe that you should join herds of fandom no matter how enthusiastic they might be about the show. Otherwise, I would be among one of those countless people who made those Transformers films so profitable. I think people should make up their own mind what games or shows they like.

Also, food for thought: expressing your annoyance on an Internet forum, hoping people could empathize and see where you're coming from, isn't boycotting and not part of cancel culture, so I don't know where that came from.

Finally, I think people tend to obsess over Disney all the time because they're literally everywhere nowadays. Their marketing team ensured that. They made sure that they're known on a global scale, so you can't blame people for eventually speaking out about things they dislike about their shows. People are allowed to express an opinion, even if it's one you vehemently disagree with, unless of course, you're trying to boycott them and silence their opinions, contributing to the cancel culture you so enthusiastically called out on. Besides, I think the billionaires at Disney are grown up enough that the opinions of Internet users shouldn't really dictate whether a company or one of their products should be "cancelled." That's their decision and responsibility to make.

Maxenmus, you can't both block me and talk to me at the same time. That's not how conversations work and defeats the spirit of you blocking me in the first place.

Bruh, please. You've blocked me and indirectly called out on my recent posts of Disney-shaming and She-Hulk boycotting. People living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

I've reported your recent activity to @antdickens anyway. Let him handle it.

I love Disney and wouldn't be able to live without them.
That might sound hyperbolic but it's true.

Yes they make a lot of cash-grabs, exploiting nostalgia and such, but they're the best in the business when it comes to escapism. And with everything going on in the world, I have a strong need for escapism.

As someone who suffers from bipolar and anxiety disorders, Disney has often been a true blessing for me. From their animated movies by Disney Animation and Pixar to their superhero movies and live action originals like Timmy Failure or the remake of Pete's Dragon... they give me comfort and hope that humanity's not all that bad, you know?

No, not all of their movies are great, and I too have some serious issues with most of their live-action remakes but they also make some stellar original family entertainment that fills my heart with joy.
What's wrong with that?

Ten years ago, I would've agreed with you. It's not that I don't see why the escapism can be helpful. Heck, I've made an entire post on another thread defending escapism made by a company that's just as scummy (if not more, since Mark Zuckerberg has actually been accused in court of creating a monopoly with his company, unlike Disney), Mark Zuckerberg's Facebook and his Metaverse. I was someone like that too, someone who was seduced by the magical façade of their films, blissful about the reality of life. And this isn't the first time I've had a conversation with someone about the importance of escapism either. I've had the same conversation when I criticized Transformers films and other shallow Hollywood films, and I was reminded that people need their escapism. I get it.

But I think that when it comes to Disney's seduction of the youth, that triggers me a lot more because kids are involved. Facebook probably doesn't differentiate between children and adults when it comes to their aggressive marketing techniques, but Disney's direct target audience has always been children. I get that they're "family films" for the young and old, but their marketing has always been focused on the "innocent Disney magic" that they know children would buy into because they lack the cynicism of adults. And they know kids will ask their parents to buy their merch and pay tickets for their films, regardless of how hollow their out-of-place nostalgia-bait might be, regardless of how those live action remakes take the kids' attention away from the original animation. The fact that a bunch of old businessmen sit in a boardroom, thinking about how to make more money out of kids, that's a disgusting image no matter how you spin it.

And really, when it comes down to it, this isn't even about the quality of their films at all. This is about me criticizing a company that made films you like, and you called me out for it, asking "What's wrong with that," when I could ask you the same: "What's wrong with feeling annoyed about a company you find to be unjust?" I never said people were wrong to like Disney films, I said people shouldn't really put Disney, the company, not their movies, on a pedestal, because as we all should know by now, there have been plenty of shady misconducts behind the company, so it's not really a company worth celebrating or even defending.

Maxy, you still got me on block...

After a few pages of Disney is terrible this and that, me saying folk should try watching non-Disney shows/movies if they are that upset with Disney is not me defending them. It's me saying "it's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness" as there's so many great shows and films out there it's very easy to not watch Disney at all as plenty of people don't watch Disney.

White knighting, putting people on pedestals, the working class, people being forced to like something etc has nothing to do with what I said.

Kermit is talking about using Disney+ plus but avoiding the parks, nothing to do with you.

Me talking to others in a different thread a week who are not you about She Hulk is not me She Hulk/Disney shaming you.

Try to be known for the things you love, not the things you hate.

I think I would rather be known as being true to my feelings rather than sidestepping everything I say to please other people.

@Maxenmus
I think it's OK to voice criticism about something, I do it too, but I do it by way of saying something wasn't for me or why I didn't like something and leave it at that. I don't go on and on for pages about the same subject. Nobody reads those walls of text anyway, especially not when it has a negative undertone because it's exhausting to do so.

Again, it's fine to voice criticism, but try not to be so obsessive about it.

@Maxenmus
I personally still like some Disney stuffs and movies, not all. I have some Disney games as well on consoles and handhelds.
I still selective to choose the Disney movies I want to watch. If the movies are good enough, I will get the physical media, but if it wasn't I will forget them and moved on.
Also, nothing wrong for adult peoples to enjoy the "innocence Disney magic".

I was responding to other people. I didn't "go on and on for pages" ranting on my own. I was sharing my point of view in a conversation with other people, namely HotGoomba and Kermit1. It's fine that you find my criticisms of that shady corporation bothersome, but I feel like I didn't do anything wrong at all and was having a normal conversation with others until you and jump got upset.

Nothing wrong with that at all. I didn't say there's anything wrong with that. I said that I didn't like how impressionable young minds were groomed to worship the company and its brand.

"Treat others how you want to be treated", trust me it's true. Kindness goes along way.

I live life by those 2 things.