Topic: Movie thread.

It's Batgirl, not Batowman. Considering people can't even get the name right this is much like Advance Wars where at the very best it would have been a modest hit if it was released but because it's been cancelled people are getting upset about it now even though they had no intention of seeing it. It's a shame for those real fans who were looking forward to it.

You got a point.

Gotta say, DC has a really confusing naming scheme for it's characters. Batman, Batgirl, Batwoman, Catwoman, Superman, Superwoman, Supergirl, and Shazam, also known as Captain Marvel, not to be confused with Marvel's Captain Marvel.

@HotGoomba I know America is funny about these sorts of things but I hope for your love life's sake you can tell the difference between a girl and a woman. ;p

Marvel is as bad where there's at least three Captain Americas, also four Ms Marvels but not to be mixed up with Captain Marvel, She-Thing, Moonstone, War Bird or Binary then there are four Ant-Mans but who are also called Giant Man, Yellow Jacket, Goliath, Slaying Mantis and Wasp but not to be confused with the other Wasp etc.

I mean, I hadn't even heard of it until it was cancelled and probably wouldn't have gone out my way to watch it, but it's still pretty ridiculous that they've just completely cancelled a finished movie that the cast and crew must have put a lot of work into. Although they'll probably release it one day as 'the movie you never got to see!!!' and it will do better than it would have done otherwise.

Me? With a love life? That's funny.

@TheJGG, @Kermit1, @HotGoomba, @jump, apparently the guy in charge of Discovery (which now controls Warner Brothers) is simply no friend to big budget and/or scripted content.

While the tax write off thing is probably certainly part of it, this is the guy who was in charge of the Discovery Channel when it became known for lowest common denominator reality TV garbage like Here Comes Honey Boo Boo, My 700 Pound Life, & the like (all Discovery owned platforms are filled to the brim with cheap reality TV shows), and it's what his plans likely are for HBO (Max) as well.

There have even been 6 HBO Max exclusive movies/series that were already out that have been retroactively pulled from the service, likely as part of a plot to make a quick buck by selling them off to rival channels/streamers.

@RR529 it's the opposite though, Batgirl wasn't big budget enough which is why it was canned as they want DC films to be big event films. Batgirl was loosely based on her Year One storyline which was a smaller more personal story and using the minor villain Firefly rather than one of the numerous big names villains like The Joker or Catwoman.

For context, WarnerMedia (owned by AT&T from 2018 until 2022 and known as Time Warner from 1990–2018) and Discovery, Inc. merged to form Warner Bros. Discovery on April 8, 2022 as a separately traded company. A lot of the management from Discovery took over operations and there's even been controversy over discrimination, which I'm not going into. Apparently this merger is supposed to be better for both companies overall.

However if they actually get rid of HBO Max in favor of Discovery+, we're doomed.

At least they changed the shield back I guess.

https://logos.fandom.com/wiki/Warner_Bros._Discovery

Even then, I liked the 2019 logo, and look at this opening logo for the 2019 logo, it's incredible.

@HotGoomba from some insider info I know. Discovery is merging HBO Max and Discovery+ together as one giant package, plus a few other small services. In Canada it will be Crave not HBO Max (same thing with a different name).

@Kermit1 That's been discussed and confirmed since before the merger was even completed, but more reports came out saying that the HBO Max brand will be eliminated in favor of Discovery+. I get it, HBO Max is a crappy name, but it's a very successful service overall, so I'd be silly to replace it with Reality TV Central.

A lot of people, myself included, suggested a new name for the service overall. Warner Max (which was actually the name of a production company made for HBO Max that closed in less than a year), HBO Discover, or whatever else. But I don't think you can get much worse than HBO Max or as generic as Discovery+.

I wish it was as simple-ish in the US as it is in other countries, especially Canada.

@RR529 Don't get me started on garbage TV. Why people watch this stuff blows my mind, not to say theirs not good "reality shows" (I'd say them here but this is not a TV thread lol). Whoever is funding these must see the view as a cow that can be milked for every hour they are worth to watch THE LOWEST STUPIDEST MOST AWFUL SHOWS EVER MADE BY MAN THAT ARE NOT EVEN SHOWS.
I like to watch things people poured their hard earned time into not a camera crew filming a "TV show" about some exploited 8 year olds who are "forced" on camera to be princesses and win a fake contest.
Some of these shows are just some "people" "living life" and some "people" argue about... the air someone else breathes, if we go deep down the rabbit hole there are some awful & horrid "reality TV" shows like (not to go too dark) Kid Nation. If Discovery is cancelling high budget movies then they can cancel every trash "reality show" they have, but wait a second they can't because that's almost all the things they make. I'm glad, no enthusiastic that
Christopher Nolan left Warner Bros. to go to Universal Pictures. His new film could have got cancelled because the new studio head could see his new films as _artsy and see the failure of Tenet as "he's not sell-able anymore" (I could have done better there, I know) and pull his new film Oppenheimer.

I think I need to give my brain a break from thinking about "reality shows" or else this might happen.

People watching Grand Tour are complaining about those garbage reality telly...

@HotGoomba

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@jump, yeah, I may have been about a bit hyperbolic about the dreaded "reality TV" future (I don't even have HBO Max), but it seems to be that the idea is that the service should be able to survive on the popularity of their theatrical releases & regular HBO content, and then they can save money by not making HBO Max exclusive movies/shows.

If a movie doesn't have the production values required to "cut it" as a theatrical release (as was the reason given for Batgirl), they shouldn't be wasting money making it in the first place, at least in their eyes.

@Kermit1 I prefer the HBO Max logo, but prefer the Crave NAME.

@RR529 I'm assuming that any HBO Max originals might just become either Discovery+ originals (IF the rumors are true) or HBO Originals. If HBO originals, that wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. If Discovery+ originals, why.

@HotGoomba Here are some changes I made from your input, excuse the slogan.

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Watched Girls und Panzer das Finale Part 2 today. Long story short, I've been following this anime for years, and started the finale movie series awhile back. I loved the movie. The sneak attack by disguising tanks I didn't expect. I loved how Miho went to the Boko museum and played a simulator attraction where she sees everything from Boko the bear's point of view, lol. Also, some really nice tank battles to watch. The movie did end in a cliffhanger, so looking forward to getting around to the third movie, which the Blu-ray is due out this September.

If no one ever seen Girls und Panzer, I do recommend the anime and the movies, it's a fun one with some great moments IMO, both tank and slice of life moments.

@HotGoomba Fair enough, I think I would rate it around a 6 or 7, if I had to rate it. I do feel Luca and Turning Red are much better Pixar movies.

@RR529 @HotGoomba @Kermit1 @jump The only thing so far that’s anywhere near good about the merger is that we got the old Warner Bros logo back. This whole thing screams disaster incoming and this is only the tip of the iceberg in terms of what’s being cut. There’s definitely stuff out there we don’t know about yet that could make the whole thing even worse.

This is nothing but bad for the film industry since WB is one of the big six movie studios in Hollywood. Of these six so far (Columbia, WB, Disney, 20th Century Fox, Paramount and MGM) one literally ate another, one was picked up by Sony, another by Amazon, and now Discovery. Whatever Discovery’s reputation is doesn’t help but the fact they’re CANCELLING FINISHED MOVIES certainly compounds the problem. The reason (tax) is BS too, indicating a painfully stereotypical money-over-content mindset. It’s one thing to have Hollywood studios accused of making “woke” movies but at least the movies are seeing a cinema, as bad as they can be.

I’m not subscribed but it’s such a shame, HBO Max has a decent catalogue. The cancellation thing is a complete joke though. DC films don’t have to be these big theatrical festivals, and they don’t have to be a copy of the MCU. Honestly the MCU feels a little played out at the moment, like they’re just pumping out four movies a year to tick a box. The VFX controversy’s also boiling over, since workers are complaining of getting overworked and underpaid to do VFX for the MCU.