@Dezzy There's truth to that. When I was a critic I always tried to hold the standard of reviewing a game through the eyes of someone that would have interest in that premise to begin with. Reviewing a production when you already know you dislike that style of production makes no sense. Nobody gains anything from reading a review about how much a given critic hated a racing game, primarily because it was a racing game and he/she doesn't enjoy racing games. Anybody looking for a review isn't looking to find out if people that don't enjoy racing games are going to confirm they indeed dislike that racing game too.....people want to find out how good a racing game it is compared to other racing games. If it was a genre I didn't like I tried to hold an objective, relatively unbiased line comparing it to others of its genre and what someone into that genre would likely find they like or dislike about it in contrast to other games. I didn't just write "this horror game is scary and gory and I wet myself thrice, 2/10 what a horrible experience" just because I hate horror.
NL reviews in this genre have a "I hate fan service games as a concept, therefore this game is terrible because it's a fan service game" angle.
When it comes to "fan service anime" games, NL reviews can come across as a monastery reviewing pornos. Then again....if it's a monastery of a particular former-imperial denomination, I suspect the underage sexualization might get much higher scores than on NL......at least if it included chibi-six-pack-guys....
@Dogorilla I can't speak for others, but far as I'm concerned the biggest mistake that people against violence or mistreatment of women are making, is seeing the characters in these games as real. And that to me is so stupid and extremely short-sighted.
In Call of Duty, you're not shooting actual people through the head, it's just a digital mannequin that looks like a person. And with these anime/ecchi games, it's even less real. I've never seen any real women or girl looking even remotely similar to these weird anime characters, with impossibly large eyes, all colors of the rainbow type of hair-do's, cat ears and paws, or rabbit tails, or breasts that would hardly ever be found on a girl their age.
As such, I just see them for what they are: virtual, non-existent characters, who are manipulated by actions in a game, NOT a real person which is mistreated, denigrated or whatever kind of negative action or label you can think of. And even though I don't particularly like or care about this specific game, I've played plenty of dating sims and/or hentai/ecchi type of games with jiggly boobs and panties flying around. And I've never even for a single fraction of a second felt bad about it.
And if I've made my way through entire battalions of Germans in Call of Duty, I don't feel like a mass murderer either. It's just me finishing a level in a game, nothing more, nothing less.
@HobbitGamer I'm convinced the only reason males feel the need to be offended and outraged by visual titillation in games like this is because none of them are man enough to have ever cracked opened one of the trashy romance novels their "damsels in distress" are addicted to. Senran Kagura has nothing over on what women buy in dozens and men are blithely ignorant to what exactly the sugar and spice lot are indulging in. It's like Senran Kagura, but with full frontal and hardcore....in words, injected directly into the brain, no need for eyes. Remember that the next time the ladyfolk laugh at your blushing cartoon girls in bikinis, before they retreat to read exactly what Conan is going to do with his huge floppy pride.....
@ThanosReXXX I don't see the characters as literally being real, but it would be incorrect to claim that works of entertainment can't inspire real-world consequences. The shark from Jaws wasn't real, but that film caused many people to develop a fear of sharks and led to a large increase in shark killings, despite the fact that sharks very rarely kill people in real life. That may be an extreme example, and I think it's very unlikely that most video games would inspire anyone in their right mind to commit acts of violence, misogyny etc, but it's still worth discussing.
Anyway, I think we're more or less in agreement here: these games are fine as long as they don't cause people to objectify real women, which, again, I have no evidence to suggest that they do.
@Dogorilla To be fair, Jaws had that effect because the film became a pop culture and media icon for the entire civilization at once.
The closest video game equivalent that's still far off would be if kids started jumping out of school buses in outlandishly flamboyant cowboy costumes to shoot people in groups because of Fortnite.
@Dogorilla I suppose we could now come to the conclusion that the people that are affected either by games, movies or any other kind of artistic media, to the point where they either mistreat or seriously endanger other people, already had problems to begin with, and besides that, don't have enough (working) brain cells to distinguish fact from fiction.
'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'
The shark from Jaws wasn't real, but that film caused many people to develop a fear of sharks and led to a large increase in shark killings, despite the fact that sharks very rarely kill people in real life. That may be an extreme example, and I think it's very unlikely that most video games would inspire anyone in their right mind to commit acts of violence, misogyny etc, but it's still worth discussing.
You don't even need to go into fiction for problems like this. Most people have a completely distorted sense of how common certain dangers are, simply because the news media so irresponsibly sensationalizes tragedies. Especially in the US, where I think you could fairly say the news media actively tries to mislead and confuse people.
If you ask the general population what are the odds that you'll die in a terrorist attack, a school shooting, be shot by the US police (whilst unarmed), etc, pretty much everyone thinks it's about 1 million times more likely than it actually is.
I mostly blame people for just being morons though, rather than blaming the news networks. It's your job to educate yourself so you're not so easily deluded like this. I'd say the same for the people who got confused by watching Jaws. It's not the media's fault that people are lazy idiots.
@Dezzy A frightened population is a subservient population easy to control. It's quite intentional, and quite systematic.
People are indeed morons, but in a society where children don't have parents because they're working (or otherwise engaged), for-profit companies, the government itself, and other children raise them, and train them to listen to what their "betters" tell them while assuming those betters have the best of intentions (beyond good intentions of social engineering) how could you have any other result?
The amazing things I hear out of the mouths of babes (read: college kids) is they trust a chain store much more than a a mom & pop store, because the little stores are rip offs and the big companies are run by a lot of people so it's much more trustworthy. "Trust the establishment" is ingrained in the population from birth to levels that would make Lenin blush.
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