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Topic: SNES VC for older 3ds

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@Ichi
You know week after week they only put out one SNES VC title but no NES or Gameboy titles. Don't you think they should at least release some for older users? Or figure out which snes games run well enough on older models and start selling them?

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Let's just stop the argument here please.

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GameOtaku

The whole situation still boggles me. You have to spend money to make money. Sure the new 3ds may be more powerful but certainly not that popular compared to the older model and 2ds. With the sales of new 3ds being significantly lower than other models, they certainly aren't making a lot on SNES VC. The SNES VC service is kinda flawed too like missing multiplayer for contra and Mario kart.

Sega obviously has a much better grasp on what fans want.

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Andyv01

That was actually rather an educational argument about emulators above, thank you both!

To move the debate along a tad, shall we safely say the portable NX should be perfectly capable of running SNES and Gamecube from day 1?

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Grumblevolcano

@Ichi Given the transition for Wii to 3DS/Wii U, I imagine NX VC will start off being NES only and each NES title being $10 irrelevant of whether you bought on Wii, Wii U or 3DS.

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GameOtaku

I still believe if Nintendo really wanted to they could definitely get SNES emu on older 3ds no problem. I've not got any new VC in over 6 months on my 3ds (I have my original blue and yellow Pokemon cards so I feel no need to buy the VC) they could at least release more than just SNES VC! How about Contra and Double Dragon 3? And on Gameboy Castlevania Legends and Belmonts Revenge (legends is way better). Or heck even some of the licensed games such as Ducktales, Little Nemo Dream Master, Dynowarz the Destruction of Spondylus, Faceball 2000?!

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faint

@GameOtaku pretty sure Capcom doesn't want us to have contra for some reason. It's not on the wiiu or the nes Classic ethier.

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@faint
Konami.
Has no one thought why the SNES VC are more expensive? Considering that NES VC are roughly half its a way for Nintendo to justify their sales to the minority of new 3ds owners.

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Nintendo could still have done it on the older handheld, who cares that you can't access miiverse or get streetpass (I haven't used miiverse since it was introduced, and streetpass I only get maybe one or two a week if I'm lucky, more at conventions) the way there been neglecting the old 3ds and VC in general. Where's more NES titles? Gameboy? Game Gear? TG16?

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@Ichi
For your info I have a SNES, if I could buy Earthbound, Castlevania 4 and Dracula X all together for $30 then I would.

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Ralizah

@GameOtaku Don't forget Contra 3, A Link to the Past, all three DKC games, and Super Metroid as well. <3333

N3DS is pretty much a portable SNES for me at this point. I love it.

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@Ralizah
Pretty much the only thing it has going for it.

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Ralizah

@GameOtaku Performance improvements in certain games. Control improvements in certain games with the C-stick. Xenoblade.

SNES VC is definitely the most appealing aspect of the upgraded hardware, though.

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@Ichi
First off I want to apologize. You may be right but that doesn't mean it makes good common sense. Everything in that era and the era after it can be emulated with relative ease but the SNES requires so much extra work for being 25 years old?

Emulators all run differently correct, zsnes does somethings better than blargsnes and vice versa. What was to stop them from developing a emulator to fit the needs of the old 3ds and 2ds?

And as far as buying anything new, some people (like myself) just don't rush out and buy the big new thing. 2ds is less than $100 has access to a large library of games, new 3ds costs $200 only 2 games exclusive to it in its life and SNES VC. Be honest, which is the better bargain?!

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Peculiaris

The 3ds could easily emulate the snes. All this "needs atleast 300mhz" crap is nonsense. First off: Modern software isn't interconnected with clockspeed anymore. Secondly the 3ds dual core ARM a9 is powerful enough to run Linux so with a proprietary software and highly optimized emulator it would run it no problem. Thirdly the cards that added "hardware" were adding the ability to process 3d graphics which a GPU does these days (and thats the same between the old and new 3ds). So it's just to push people to buy a new 3ds, nothing fun about it.

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@Peculiaris
Yes I agree completely. The eshop knows what model you have so just make a version that runs on it. Give the lazy VC folks at Ninty something to do.

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Procrastination

Sound like a good idea. Mario advance just isn't the same, darn it!

And, an OG 3ds really cant run it due to the pixel perfect crud. So Nintendo is being truthful. (I thought it was just Nintendo being a bit anticonsumer)
Like, really: https://youtu.be/r7tNGQgEgSc

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KingMike

"ZSNES" and "better" in the same sentence in 2017 hurts my brain.
It was acceptable in early 2000s, but by 2007 when it last updated, it was outdated.
I could say more but people that care about emulation accuracy probably already know the history, and those that think "ZSNES can run Super Mario World convincingly = perfect emulation" probably can't be convinced otherwise.

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@TwentyOneGamers
That video is a joke. Lets dissect it a minute. I have a few problems with it.
1. It's dark in the video. You can't tell if anything extra is hooked up to the 3ds or even what model it is (more on that in a moment)
2. I've posted other videos in my defense and the biggest complaint I've heard was the sound was awful, apparently the same thing in this video (but again more on that in a minute)
3. When he brought up that menu I heard a distinct keyboard click. That makes me wonder if he does indeed have it running off something else which would explain why it's dark. But let's look at the biggest issue that I have.
4. The menu clearly says "new" 3ds processing speed. This is not an original 3ds. But a new 3ds homebrewed to run like an old 3ds. So if modding a system causes it to run erratically, then whose to say that turning off the extra power didn't cause more problems that would explain the slow down.

In short this video should be called, New 3ds homebrewed to run like an old 3ds running a homebrew SNES emu that's obviously not blargsnes. The videos I posted earlier in this discussion clearly show an original 3ds running SNES emu nearly perfectly.

@KingMike
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the new 3ds not even have the processing power to run SNES VC at least according to all I've read on SNES emu even it fall short of what is recommended. A quick recap the SNES ran of a processor of only 3.58 MHz, the original 3ds had 268 mhz but I know it only uses half of that for the OS so 134 MHz for emu, so I little math shows that the 3ds processor is 37x more powerful than the SNES. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't rule of thumb for emu 5x more than what you are emulating?! And besides that is the common sense telling you that if it's more powerful and can play games that are graphically and acoustically superior then 25 year old software emu should not be that big of an issue. I tried zsnes recently vs my copy of Mario rpg and really I don't see any "noticeable" differences.

Read the comments below the video, it's obvious this wasn't the best interpretation of SNES emu on older 3ds.

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