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Araquanid

Retro_on_theGo wrote:

Stomatopod17 wrote:

So blaziken is banned in OU.. but keldeo, terrakion, latios, latias, mega pinsir, and the most rediculous of all.. black kyurem is allowed? Heck cloyster is in OU AND uber.. and after playing around with cloyster lately is seriously broken..

A pokemon with dizzle AND swift swim on the same team is illegal in most tiers? What's the point then?

Tiers or no tiers.. I've won enough Uber battles with UU pokemon.. smogon's logic in seperating everything in tiers is invalid.

You know that's encouraged right? You know there are NU pokemon with an Uber analysis. Uber is just a ban list. Using non Uber pokemon is not special. No one is forcing you to play a certain way. Play how you want. Cool. Just don't think you're amazing if you win breaking sleep clause.
Cloyster is easily one-shoted. It's not broken. Ask turtle xD
Black Kyurem is OU because it doesn't have the move pool to support it's attack stat. Now If it's special attack and attack were swapped then it'd be banned.

Cloyster, blaziken, etc like you guys claim are easily one shotted.. that's an example of being prepared.. despite that they're ubers.. if one is skilled/intelligent enough they can easily be dominanted.. it's part of the strategy afterall..

On the note that cloyster is broken.. during the right timing and against the right team.. you're pretty much swept in cloysters case.

I don't believe cloyster going down THAT easily.. take for example this match just now.
http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/ou-102025500
if it wasn't for stealth rocks and shadow sneak.. this thing could've swept me however the person raged quit knowing I had the upper hand.. but point is stealth rocks+iron head from 150 base power adamant 252 EV atk STAB didn't even kill it.. probably defensive but still... thankfully shadow sneak would've saved me if the player didn't quit.. Sure I could've switched into excadrill and rock slid him.. but that's just free setup fodder..

And previous matches was just cloyster sweeping everyone.. I almost feel bad enough to remove him from the team.

However like I said I'm not going to not follow some of the clauses for other player's sakes.. no matter how stupid I feel about "clauses" I'm not going to be sporing/sleep powdering everything.. I'll save the "free play no restrictions" for the maison.

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Wheeler

LOL. I got 4-0 today. I forget Ditto's Imposter copies the stats as well. I really need to try harder and remember that.

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Retro_on_theGo

Stomatopod17 wrote:

Retro_on_theGo wrote:

Stomatopod17 wrote:

So blaziken is banned in OU.. but keldeo, terrakion, latios, latias, mega pinsir, and the most rediculous of all.. black kyurem is allowed? Heck cloyster is in OU AND uber.. and after playing around with cloyster lately is seriously broken..

A pokemon with dizzle AND swift swim on the same team is illegal in most tiers? What's the point then?

Tiers or no tiers.. I've won enough Uber battles with UU pokemon.. smogon's logic in seperating everything in tiers is invalid.

You know that's encouraged right? You know there are NU pokemon with an Uber analysis. Uber is just a ban list. Using non Uber pokemon is not special. No one is forcing you to play a certain way. Play how you want. Cool. Just don't think you're amazing if you win breaking sleep clause.
Cloyster is easily one-shoted. It's not broken. Ask turtle xD
Black Kyurem is OU because it doesn't have the move pool to support it's attack stat. Now If it's special attack and attack were swapped then it'd be banned.

Cloyster, blaziken, etc like you guys claim are easily one shotted.. that's an example of being prepared.. despite that they're ubers.. if one is skilled/intelligent enough they can easily be dominanted.. it's part of the strategy afterall..

On the note that cloyster is broken.. during the right timing and against the right team.. you're pretty much swept in cloysters.

During right timing and right team means that pokemon needs set up. If you keep putting pressure on him the opponent will never be able to make Cloyster a threat. He needs to shell smash first. There's as much struggle to use him properly as there is to defeat him once he gets going.
Blaziken and everything else band (except M. Lucario which was an unnessecary band.) needs no set up. Blaziken can just protect which guarantees him a speed boost and with good attack stats can freely sweep. And he can baton pass the boosts to something if a check comes in!
That Cloyster surviving the hit you mentioned shouldn't surprise you. Have you seen Cloyster's defense stat? o.o Holy crap! But if you hit him with a special super effective attack he's guaranteed to die unless he's sashed.

turtlelink

Other than Ubers, I believe Smogon's tiers are based on their Showdown! statistics, not on how "good" a pokemon is. And Cloyster is a monster, but good luck setting up it doesn't take much to take it down. One special attack- finished. One priority attack after shell smash- finished. These are based on experience. But yea, a lot of the pokemon banned are banned for good reason. Only thing I don't truly agree with would be Genesect, but that's very debatable (especially since it has the ability Download).

@Retro, as much as I love Lucario and it's Mega, I do kinda agree with the ban. Its just too strong lol

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Arn0ld

Retro_on_theGo wrote:

Stomatopod17 wrote:

Retro_on_theGo wrote:

Stomatopod17 wrote:

So blaziken is banned in OU.. but keldeo, terrakion, latios, latias, mega pinsir, and the most rediculous of all.. black kyurem is allowed? Heck cloyster is in OU AND uber.. and after playing around with cloyster lately is seriously broken..

A pokemon with dizzle AND swift swim on the same team is illegal in most tiers? What's the point then?

Tiers or no tiers.. I've won enough Uber battles with UU pokemon.. smogon's logic in seperating everything in tiers is invalid.

You know that's encouraged right? You know there are NU pokemon with an Uber analysis. Uber is just a ban list. Using non Uber pokemon is not special. No one is forcing you to play a certain way. Play how you want. Cool. Just don't think you're amazing if you win breaking sleep clause.
Cloyster is easily one-shoted. It's not broken. Ask turtle xD
Black Kyurem is OU because it doesn't have the move pool to support it's attack stat. Now If it's special attack and attack were swapped then it'd be banned.

Cloyster, blaziken, etc like you guys claim are easily one shotted.. that's an example of being prepared.. despite that they're ubers.. if one is skilled/intelligent enough they can easily be dominanted.. it's part of the strategy afterall..

On the note that cloyster is broken.. during the right timing and against the right team.. you're pretty much swept in cloysters.

During right timing and right team means that pokemon needs set up. If you keep putting pressure on him the opponent will never be able to make Cloyster a threat. He needs to shell smash first. There's as much struggle to use him properly as there is to defeat him once he gets going.
Blaziken and everything else band (except M. Lucario which was an unnessecary band.) needs no set up. Blaziken can just protect which guarantees him a speed boost and with good attack stats can freely sweep. And he can baton pass the boosts to something if a check comes in!
That Cloyster surviving the hit you mentioned shouldn't surprise you. Have you seen Cloyster's defense stat? o.o Holy crap! But if you hit him with a special super effective attack he's guaranteed to die unless he's sashed.

So this makes Blakizen a good baton passer? Then I guess Ninjask is uber to, as protect + speed boost can baton pass out baring priotry attacks

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turtlelink

@X that's not the reason he's banned. Reason being is not only does Blaziken have the ability to set up speed boosts easily and pass it, it also has the ability to 2HKO most mons on it's own. Hell, it can 3HKO an Azumarill with max defenses.

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Araquanid

I prefer scolipede for a passer.. of course blaziken is the best but for showdown usage.. scolipede with sub, infestation, aqua tail, and baton pass is a nasty surprise.. aqua tail lured in fire types.. and trap them with infestation.. then pass the speed boost and effects of infestation to effectively sweep. I like to have scolipede hold a berry and spam sub until it eats it for an addition stat boost.

Ninjask is WAY too predictable.. however I run offensives ninjask time to time on those who assume they're gonna setup on me while I baton pass.. little do they know I run banded sets

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Arn0ld

turtlelink wrote:

@X that's not the reason he's banned. Reason being is not only does Blaziken have the ability to set up speed boosts easily and pass it, it also has the ability to 2HKO most mons on it's own. Hell, it can 3HKO an Azumarill with max defenses.

I guess that's true but in a tier with pokemon like Mewtwo and Mega Annoyakhan it just seems outclassed and easily countered by pokemon who resists its stabs

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GuardianKing

Guys, I feel like someone must've figured this out before me, but apparently, you can pet your Pokemon after a battle!

If you rub your touch screen right before the EXP counter shows up, so right after a Pokemon faints, a hand will appear, and it'll show you rubbing you 'mon, thanking it for its amazing performance in the battle you just fought.

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Araquanid

I tried that and it didn't work before.. does it have to have max affection?

I want to pet my slugma.. what could possibly go wrong!

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Snagrio

After almost an entire day's worth of frustrating breeding, I at last have a perfect Dodrio. I even gave him egg moves (Brave Bird and Assurance).

Yeah obviously not something that belongs on any high tier or will win big tournaments, but you know what, he's my favorite Pokemon. That's what really matters in my book. Just felt that was worth saying amidst all the crazy competitive talk.

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Arn0ld

WingedSnagret wrote:

After almost an entire day's worth of frustrating breeding, I at last have a perfect Dodrio. I even gave him egg moves (Brave Bird and Assurance).

Yeah obviously not something that belongs on any high tier or will win big tournaments, but you know what, he's my favorite Pokemon. That's what really matters in my book. Just felt that was worth saying amidst all the crazy competitive talk.

Crazy competitive talk? My stunfisk is in the top 10% of stunfisk in fact MR.DERP and perfect dodrios should be banned to ubers!

Botw > OoT

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Araquanid

Xtremetdifan wrote:

WingedSnagret wrote:

After almost an entire day's worth of frustrating breeding, I at last have a perfect Dodrio. I even gave him egg moves (Brave Bird and Assurance).

Yeah obviously not something that belongs on any high tier or will win big tournaments, but you know what, he's my favorite Pokemon. That's what really matters in my book. Just felt that was worth saying amidst all the crazy competitive talk.

Crazy competitive talk? My stunfisk is in the top 10% of stunfisk in fact MR.DERP and perfect dodrios should be banned to ubers!

Especially since he gets a mega stone!
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Araquanid

Is it possible to breed a ferrothorn with spikes, srocks, AND leech seed?

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Blast

My copy of Pokemon X is gathering dust. I haven't touched it in ages. I'm a huge Pokemon gamer but I just can't deal with the lack of stuff in X/Y.
I really do applaud the guys whose really poured themselves in X/Y, though.
That takes dedication

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Araquanid

Blast wrote:

My copy of Pokemon X is gathering dust. I haven't touched it in ages. I'm a huge Pokemon gamer but I just can't deal with the lack of stuff in X/Y.
I really do applaud the guys whose really poured themselves in X/Y, though.
That takes dedication

Learn how to do some IV breeding and build teams to battle us. If there was no online I'd probably call quits after the E4... but constantly building and training new teams kept me busy. And of course battling you guys as well.

It's actually very surprising how much there IS to do.. maybe not as much as BW2 but hopefully whatever gen 6 remake fixes that... training in x/y only makes things easier to transfer to the next games! I actually thought x/y lacked alot.. and still does but surprisingly there is alot to keep yourself occupied with when you really go indepth with the competive play.

UPDATE ON MY 3DS: So apparently last week and this week is PSSA testing for me.. I'm in 9th so I don't have to go to PSSA's thankfully.. unforuantly tho.. the teachers do.. which is nerve racking meaning I'm not getting my grades updated to show for anytime soon -.-

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Araquanid

Nintendo sued datel

They were forced to remove any unreleased content from the powersav (Diancie, mega eons, etc) basicly the powersav is useless to everyone now.

Also you cannot trade them.. you cannot trade the mega stones or diancie and such until they're released meaning they can't be cloned.

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Snagrio

Speaking of Diancie, since you basically get one from a Carbink when given some sort of item (I think?), I'm wondering if I should breed a perfect Carbink before whatever event arrives...

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dkxcalibur

Can someone help? I have one copy of Pokemon Y (digital) and three people (me and my two sons) who want to play, can this be done or do I need to shell out another $80 for two more copies?

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