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Yorumi

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#1

Yorumi commented on YouTube Stars Aren't Happy With Nintendo's Rev...:

@AndymanMessiah it's worth pointing out that a lot of youtube celebs think it's a pretty bad policy. There's quite a few of them who have no real stake in this fight saying what nintendo is doing is pretty dumb. It's not just the lets players saying it. Not to mention the policy would encompass pretty much any nintendo content uploaded to youtube not just lets plays. I think you'd actually even have a hard time putting up reviews with this policy in play and youtubes automatic ID system.

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#2

Yorumi commented on YouTube Stars Aren't Happy With Nintendo's Rev...:

@Kalmaro do you mean like they'd take a cut if the video is more than X minutes long? It would depend on what X is. I think it should be a reasonably long time, like 45 minutes or more. The thing is long gameplay sessions give you a far better idea of what a game is like than trailers, or even reviews. Perfect example is take nintendo's own treehouse at E3. Watching the trailer is quite different from seeing someone actually play the game for an hour.

I think people should be able to show off a good time trial, or a good run of a level, or do an extended review involving a long gameplay session. Speed running opens another can of worms I'm not going to bother with. Basically youtubers should be able to do reasonably lengthy videos that are monetized and have their own commentary without the copyright holders taking a cut.

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#3

Yorumi commented on YouTube Stars Aren't Happy With Nintendo's Rev...:

@Kalmaro you'll get no argument from me on no commentary videos. If those are monetized, absolute, take a cut nintendo. Non-monetized gets into another mess that's not something I care about now. The whole time I've been talking about the people who talk about a game while they're playing it. Those people have contributed their own work to this. I'm not anti-copyright, I believe there should absolutely be IP protections, and as I said I can even see where a 100% lets play even with commentary might be going to too far. But I don't think people playing video games should automatically mean the creators get a cut of all ad revenue.

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#4

Yorumi commented on YouTube Stars Aren't Happy With Nintendo's Rev...:

@ikki5 parody is absolutely 100% protected under copyright law. You do not need any special permission to take any copyrighted material, write a parody of said material, in the case of a song this is the lyrics, and then selling it. Parody isn't a grey area at all it's been absolutely upheld in court.

@Kalmaro A let's play has commentary over it, and the question becomes is the video of gameplay enough, or is playing the game what's important. That's why there's the question of whether it could fall under a similar idea of parody. You're not selling a rom of the game, you're placing ads on a video of your experience playing the game with your commentary. I tend to think let's plays, or at least very large portions of the game should be allowed.

@Darknyht yeah nintendo is being boneheaded in the way they're going about it. Believe it or not I'm actually not entirely against the law saying lets plays go to far. But I do think large portions of gameplay should be allowed. Someone doing a lets play of and hour or two of a 10 hour game, with commentary I see no problem with.

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#5

Yorumi commented on Retailer The Hut Believes The Wii U Now Has A ...:

@JaxonH believing something doesn't make it true. I mean you're saying you get upset because you can't make factually false, untrue statements and have someone point out that it's wrong. You've just stated it's harassment to state the truth because you don't personally want to believe it. If you really can't handle someone pointing out factually untrue statements you really you probably shouldn't be spending time on the internet.

Lets also not forget it takes two to tango here, you likewise can't expect to reply to every single correction with more factually untrue statements and not expect more replies. And you certainly shouldn't reply with insults. You can't expect to live in an isolated bubble of fantasy without reality crashing in.

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#6

Yorumi commented on YouTube Stars Aren't Happy With Nintendo's Rev...:

@unrandomsam I'll give you that. That said I'm pretty confident if you took a poll asking if fair use should be eliminated entirely you wouldn't find majority support for that. If anything I would bet the majority actually want a degree of weakening of IP laws instead of strengthening.

@Kalmaro Because you can make money off something that involves a copyrighted work. This is what fair use is all about, you can use copyrighted material without the limitations of fair use. Parody is also protected. You can take any copyrighted song, leave the music 100% unchanged, and just change the lyrics. By doing so you are perfectly allowed to see your version of the song without anything going to the original artist.

You're trying to say if it contains any copyrighted material it shouldn't be allowed. That's not what the law says, and I would doubt most people want the law to say that. The question that's up for debate, that even legal scholars arn't certain of, is does a lets play fall into a category like fair use, or a spirit similar to parody, it's not actual parody but should it receive a similar exception.

This isn't someone trying to sell bootleg copies of a game it's a transformative work.

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#7

Yorumi commented on YouTube Stars Aren't Happy With Nintendo's Rev...:

@Kalmaro that's entirely arbitrary though, you've in essence said "it's immoral because a I say so, it doesn't matter what the law says, or what was voted on, it's immoral, and the people support me because I say so."

You may not realize it but what you're actually arguing for is the elimination of free speech. If as you want, anything containing something copyrighted couldn't be seen or talked about anywhere that profit is involved then reviews must be immoral to you. Fair use exists for a very good reason.

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#9

Yorumi commented on YouTube Stars Aren't Happy With Nintendo's Rev...:

@Kalmaro my point is you're being arbitrary. Elected representatives made the current copyright laws, and there hasn't yet been a popular movement to remove sections like fair use from them. So if most people are against current copyright laws as written, then why havn't they had these sections removed?

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#11

Yorumi commented on YouTube Stars Aren't Happy With Nintendo's Rev...:

@Kalmaro the law in the US, which was approved by representative elected by the vote of the people disagrees. There are ways you can profit when what you're using contains copyrighted material and ways you can't.

@DefHalan you don't seem to get that's exactly what's being debated, is this an actual violation or not and the law isn't clear on that. That's the whole point, it's a grey area that hasn't been determined fully. I tend to see it as something in a similar spirit to parody, where someone only needs to change the lyrics of a song but not the music and they're free to profit from it.

You're trying to make it a black and white issue when even legal scholars say a case can be made on either side.

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#12

Yorumi commented on YouTube Stars Aren't Happy With Nintendo's Rev...:

@Kalmaro I'm curious under what authority is it morally wrong?

@DefHalan You're trying to reduce this to something the law does not say. Simply containing copyrighted material is not justification under the law to allow the copyright holder to stop what's happening. There is fair use, which says that screenshots and video of copyrighted material can be use in a for profit business under certain restrictions without permission from the copyright holder.

Nintendolife itself undoubted uses some material without nitnendo's permission because it qualifies under fair use. You're attacking a straw man, no one at all is arguing these videos don't contain copyrighted materia. They're saying that just because they doesn't make it automatically wrong, there's a case to made that nintendo doesn't have the ability to protect it's IP in this way.

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#13

Yorumi commented on YouTube Stars Aren't Happy With Nintendo's Rev...:

@Kalmaro the law is not as black and white as you think it is. Review for example is perfectly allowed, including showing screenshots and video of a copyrighted work. Look up fair use laws, you can profit from something involving another person's IP. What's being debated, and what hasn't been decided in the courts yet, is does this constitute a copyright violation or not. There isn't a clear answer to that because there are very strong arguments on both sides.

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#14

Yorumi commented on YouTube Stars Aren't Happy With Nintendo's Rev...:

@DefHalan you could get court costs into the millions going after a company like this. One tactic large entities use in cases at times is to just stall as much as possible till the smaller guys runs out of money. I'm not saying it's impossible, but you don't decide a mega corp like nintendo is wrong, get a $50 lawyer and go win a case. There's a risk/reward analysis in everything.

Ask yourself this, you personally, would you risk absolutely everything you own to fight nintendo on something that you could easily just ignore?

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#15

Yorumi commented on YouTube Stars Aren't Happy With Nintendo's Rev...:

@mainstream05 I think there should be guidelines on basically how much movie like a content is shown before it violates IP. Yeah a cutscene heavy game could be argued that watching the game is just as good as playing. That said, I think they should still be able to do a lets play, but they should be only allowed to show gameplay sections and would be required to edit out the cutscenes. I'm all for reasonable protections on IPs, but I'm also all for reasonable fair use exceptions.

I'm not even opposed to the law saying you can't do a 100% lets play where it shows the whole game, but you could do quite lengthy sessions that show large portions of the game.

@DefHalan fighting a behemoth like nintendo when you're a single youtuber isn't exactly an easy process. When they can simply ignore nintendo a youtuber staking their entire life savings on fighting this isn't a reasonable prospect.

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#16

Yorumi commented on YouTube Stars Aren't Happy With Nintendo's Rev...:

@DefHalan Well two things, you can't possibly believe watching someone play a game is the same as playing a game.

And nintendo doing something, or any company for that matter, doesn't mean they actually legally can, just that they think they can, or they think they can get away with it. This is why companies get challenged in court all the time and lose. You're right it's a grey area, I'm just saying nintendo doing something doesn't necessarily mean they have the right to do it.

@mainstream05 if he's using clips and not the whole game there is no question that falls under fair use, no question at all. Lets plays are the grey area because it's the full game.

Someone trashing a game is a review, and they could just as easily do it under unquestionably rock solid fair use. So it becomes a mostly moot point. You can't stop reviews, so saying "it will harm us to get a bad review" won't stand up to any legal challenge

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#17

Yorumi commented on YouTube Stars Aren't Happy With Nintendo's Rev...:

@DefHalan the movie comparison are bad because there really is no such thing as a lets play for a movie. Watching mario and playing mario are quite different. For a movie watching it is what's being sold so there's not really something that's not watching a movie that involves youtube.

@mainstream05 I'm talking more about the spirit of the law here. Ask yourself why is parody protected? They're using another person's music, their IP, to make money. But the law says that's perfectly fine as long as you just change the lyrics. It can be the full song just so long as the lyrics are different.

So if parody is an exception to copyright law because of it's transformative nature, then why shouldn't a video of one person's experience with commentary also be considered sufficiently transformative?

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#18

Yorumi commented on YouTube Stars Aren't Happy With Nintendo's Rev...:

@mainstream05 The difference with gta is they're not transforming the songs at all to be anything different. What I mean is when a song is sold it's the music being sold, that's the primary experience of it. With a game the primary experience would be the gameplay.

The example of parody has been given before and I actually think that's a good argument for these videos to not violate copyrights. Think about what happens with parody, someone takes the music and changes the lyrics, and is then able to sell it legally as their own product with no permission needed from the original artist. In this case someone is taking a game, transforming it into something different, and then profiting from it.

It's really ultimately a question of is this a category like fair use or parody or is it actually copyright infringement. I see it as the former, I don't want people stealing IPs, you will get no argument from me there, it's just that I don't see this as IP theft.

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#20

Yorumi commented on YouTube Stars Aren't Happy With Nintendo's Rev...:

@DefHalan again it's not clear cut whether this is actually a copyright violation or not. Because the work is transformative it's a grey area that eventually is going to have to be decided in the courts.

@mainstream05 making money off another person's work is done all the time, and people don't always have to ask permission. Although not technically a copyright lets say you own a bakery, and you use pilsbury flour to do all your baking. If you sell biscuits is that then wrong or do you need to ask pilsbury before doing so? No.

Or another example, say someone charges for art lessons and as part of one lesson they're drawing mario, again no problem. I know education is specified under fair use but that's actually the argument a lot are making, that the work is transformative enough to qualify under fair use. And to me I agree they should be able to do what they do.

I absolutely understand protecting IP, and if I felt this was weakening that I wouldn't support it. It's something the courts are going to have to decide eventually, or the laws will need to be rewritten to be more specific.

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#21

Yorumi commented on YouTube Stars Aren't Happy With Nintendo's Rev...:

@mainstream05 There's a very good case to be made that they're not profiting from nintendo's content but from their personalities. Since everyone who streams games isn't equally successful you would have to say there is something differentiating one from another. It's not the game it's the person. Whether the game helps are not is debatable because someone as successful as these people are could likely be successful doing a lot of other entertainment related things.

If they were selling bootleg copies of games, or stealing art assets for their own games yeah I'd have no problem saying that's wrong. However, just playing with something you legally bought I don't think that's wrong.

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#22

Yorumi commented on Retailer The Hut Believes The Wii U Now Has A ...:

@JaxonH "Expressing differences of opinion respectfully is one thing, arguing with a "No I'm right, you're wrong, just admit it you're wrong" attitude, I don't have time for."

That's exactly the attitude YOU have. YOU started the discussion about gamestop, and when asked to defend your position you got mad. When presented with proof gamestop didn't publish the game you got mad and said you don't care you believe you right and it doesn't matter what the proof says. You then go on to try to dictate to us how we use the site when again YOU started the discussion about gamestop. This isn't your own personal blog, if you're going to make comments be prepared for people to reply.

You can't say "I'm just going to write whatever I want and no one else better dare correct me." You can't even follow your own advice, you tell everyone else not to reply to you while you sit and reply over and over to everyone else. If you can't handle an open discussion don't engage in one, and certainly don't try to start one.

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#23

Yorumi commented on YouTube Stars Aren't Happy With Nintendo's Rev...:

@mainstream05 as I've already posted it's actually an extremely grey area as to whether nintendo has the right to claim copyright on this content. There's good arguments that this doesn't constitute a copyright violation because the work is sufficiently transformative enough. There's been no final ruling on this.

Also laws can be changed and it so if nintendo does have the legal ability to do this, people could vote to change the laws and strip them of that ability if they so choose.

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#25

Yorumi commented on YouTube Stars Aren't Happy With Nintendo's Rev...:

@FullbringIchigo, @PaperMario64 Again this isn't a a very clear area. The US is all over the place on the enforceability of EULAs, and what I'm reading of europe they've declared a game whether physical or digital is a good and bought not licensed. While nintendo can write what they want courts have ruled those things invalid at times, other times they've upheld them. There's no single court case that looked at EULAs as whole though in the US.

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#26

Yorumi commented on YouTube Stars Aren't Happy With Nintendo's Rev...:

It needs to be said but almost everything about this is a huge grey area when you look up the laws and cases. EULA's stating you don't own the game for example are very very nebulous. In the US for example the enforceability of a EULA is entirely dependent on what district the case is tried in. Some say they're enforceable, others say they arn't. In europe they've almost entirely stuck them down, saying you can resell digital games.

In terms of youtube videos of gameplay again it's very grey. Some argue that it's transformative enough to constitute fair use, others say no. Watching a video game and playing it are two very different things and there's not really a clear cut case of whether this qualifies as copyright infringement or not.

Personally I think youtube videos of games should be legal so long as there's commentary throughout the video. If the law doesn't say so now I think it should allow it. Unlike a movie or music, watching someone play mario is not at all like playing it.

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#27

Yorumi commented on Xenoblade Chronicles X is so Sizeable That It ...:

Few things, first of all it's great they have it on one disc cause if it was multiple and they couldn't fit the world on one disc you'd have to constantly switch, think star ocean 4.

Second as for those talking about installs it won't actually help anything. The wiiU uses usb2.0, the read/write speed of usb 2.0 is not really much faster than the wiiU's disc read speed. The disc reads at about 22MB/s, usb2.0 is about 30. They made a much bigger difference on the ps3/360 because their drives read around 4-9MB/s and internal hard drives are 40-70MB/s or more if you opt for a ssd.

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#28

Yorumi commented on Retailer The Hut Believes The Wii U Now Has A ...:

@JaxonH again I kind of feel the need to inform you, you're on a discussion forum. You're the only person on this site that gets mad when someone replies to you. Possibly the only person on the internet that gets mad when someone has a discussion on a discussion forum.

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#29

Yorumi commented on Retailer The Hut Believes The Wii U Now Has A ...:

So basically despite proof nintendo is the publisher of xenoblade you're just going to choose to ignore it? I hate to tell you think, might want to sit down, but just because you believe something doesn't make it true.

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#32

Yorumi commented on Retailer The Hut Believes The Wii U Now Has A ...:

@JaxonH again you are very confused about what constitutes proof. You are greatly confusing correlation with causation. Proof isn't that you believe something, it's objective evidence of something. Saying you believe something doesn't constitute proof of it.

You want proof, I'll show you what that is. First publishers have their logo in the game and are acknowledged in the game's credits. Gamestop is not. Second line of evidence:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenoblade_Chronicles - publisher(s) Nintendo
http://www.gamefaqs.com/wii/960564-xenoblade-chronicles/data - publisher US Nintendo.
http://www.nintendolife.com/games/wii/xenoblade_chronicles publisher - Nintendo

All independent sources. Nintendo published xenoblade chronicles not gamestop.

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#34

Yorumi commented on More Details Emerge on Xenoblade Chronicles X ...:

The 300 hours is factoring in side quests and things like that. It's going to be one of those games where the time to completion is based on how distracted you get. I'm betting story length will be about the same as xenoblade on wii.

That said this does sound really good. Been my most anticipated game since it was first announced.

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#36

Yorumi commented on Nintendo Stays in Profit With Wii U on Target,...:

@jjmesa16 it's way easier, anti-grav is nothing more than a camera trick, diddy kong racing technically had anti-grav back on the n64. There's no challenge in the courses at all, even the time trials are a joke.

Granted the comparison was specfiically to mk wii but let's look at another kart racer. Sonic has better items, the main mechanic actually has a major impact on the game(transformations completely change your vehicle). The levels themselves actually transform so each lap is different. Tracks are longer, there's a full story mode, the game rewards skill, there's a lot of different modes(traffic, boost, drift, boss, etc), and the game is actually challenging. S rank is just brutal.

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#38

Yorumi commented on Nintendo Stays in Profit With Wii U on Target,...:

@IceClimbers "That mindset might not be fixable."

It's fixable, nintendo just needs to stop screwing up. It wouldn't be fixed overnight but there's a lot of damage to repair since they've spent this and the last 3 generations confirming that nintendo consoles are inferior to the competition.

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#39

Yorumi commented on Nintendo Stays in Profit With Wii U on Target,...:

@jjmesa16 MK8 is definitely worse than wii, better than 7, maybe but that's kind of a low bar to set. Smash wiiU better than brawl, well I don't own smash on wiiU so that kind of answers that question. Not to mention cutting content. Nintendo's philosophy of punishing skill makes the games worse than their predecessors. You can make a party game without punishing skill but nintendo punishes skill.

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#40

Yorumi commented on Nintendo Stays in Profit With Wii U on Target,...:

@Nintendobro I'm not really following you, kind of the whole point I've been making is that nintendo has been engaged in screw ups for a long time. What really concerns me about the wiiU is nintendo hasn't even started digging themselves out. That doesn't really give me a lot of hope for the future.

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#41

Yorumi commented on Nintendo Stays in Profit With Wii U on Target,...:

@Nintendobro not sure what part you're referring to that was confusing but I'd be happy to clarify.

@jjmesa16 nintendo's offerings on the wiiU have been almost entirely safe sequels, and offering very little variety. They've so far given us a bunch of 2d platformers(with more to come), a 3d game that plays like a 2d platformer, a very easy mk game that was FAR less creative than the other kart racer on the system, and a somewhat watered down smash.

They're not even innovating gameplay anymore. Can we really say nintendo is doing a great job as a dev by releasing little more than safe sequels?

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#42

Yorumi commented on Nintendo Stays in Profit With Wii U on Target,...:

@Sir_JBizzle "I don't want Nintendo to become a 'me too' in the console space, but the best thing they could do is listen to the needs of the consumer/third parties first, then innovate on top of that."

Exactly, they need to balance that. There are lots of ways they can be different and still compete. Their biggest problem has been their typical response to consumer and 3rd party demands is just "shove it." It carries over to a lot of other areas too and that's a big problem. In response to a MK track maker they basically said "we don't think our players really want that." Though technically not nintendo in response to better balance in pokemon so you can use the team you want they said "eh we think it's better if they're not balanced." New f-zero "eh can't think of new controls so screw it."

It's one thing to stick to your vision and understand that people don't always know what they want, but they constantly turn a blind eye and deaf ear to practically any consumer and 3rd party demand. If they could finally learn that lesson they could probably return to absolute market domination again like they had with the nes and snes.

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#43

Yorumi commented on Nintendo Stays in Profit With Wii U on Target,...:

@jjmesa16 traditionally consoles peak in the second and 3rd years and then sales go down from there. Nintendo isn't getting any more 3rd party support anytime soon, and remember nintendo's biggest hitters are mario(mostly 2d), mk, smash, and zelda. All but one of those is already out. 2015 will probably hit their 3.6mil projection but 2016 and 2017 and likely to be sub 3mil, and 2017 probably sub 2mil.

One thing that's different, and nintendo would probably be wise to delay this as much as they possibly can, is the announcement of the successor to the wiiU will mark the absolute death of the wiiU. People are already ready to drop it and so as soon as that announcement is made sales likely fall off a cliff. They're unlikely to get through E3 2016 without that announcement.

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#44

Yorumi commented on Nintendo Stays in Profit With Wii U on Target,...:

@Sir_JBizzle they hadn't lost their arrogance but they were getting humbled and things were sort of progressing in the right direction with the gamecube. I think if the wii had continued a similar trend to the GC(ignoring actual history for a moment here) it would have been a turning point. Probably the biggest problem the GC faced affecting it's sales was being the successor to the n64.

This is all obviously speculation but I think if the wii continued the trend and got improved 3rd party support(like the gc improved over the n64) and had a similarly diverse library it would have overall sold more than the gc. If the wiiU had then done the same, getting more support and a good diverse library it would have then continued an upward trend in sales.

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#45

Yorumi commented on Nintendo Stays in Profit With Wii U on Target,...:

@Sir_JBizzle actually I kind of hope they don't bounce back big next time. I think that's actually caused a lot of the problems we're seeing now. The wii was a big bounce back from the GC but that made nintendo arrogant, they didn't recognize the wii for what is was and crashed and burned even harder with the wiiU.

What I'd rather see is a slow gradual climb out of the hole where they're fighting for every inch. It will make their games better, make them a much better partner for 3rd parties, and make them much more consumer friendly than they are now.

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#47

Yorumi commented on Nintendo Stays in Profit With Wii U on Target,...:

@jjmesa16 the biggest problem is the wii and it's motion controls were entirely a fad. When things like shoulder buttons, analogue sticks, etc were introduced they stuck around. With motion controls it's like "yeah that's neat, but never again."

Keep in mind you're purely looking at hardware sales, and in the category lets not forget the ps3 is over 80mil. So after a disastrous launch is darn near caught the wii and it was trying to chase a fad. Also nintendo has lost every single new customer that bought a wii, and some existing fans since it's tracking well below the GC.

On top of all that even after that big "victory" 3rd parties still wern't willing to put any real support behind the system.

Meanwhile sony and ms have build such strong brands that sony is tearing up the market now, and ms despite repeatedly shooting themselves in the foot for 9 months have blown away the wiiU's sales without being able to sell at all in one region.

If you really want it i'll give you the wii won based on hardware sales along but does any that's happened afterwards make it sound like victory?

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#48

Yorumi commented on Retailer The Hut Believes The Wii U Now Has A ...:

@Quorthon yeah you've mostly got the idea. The fad gaming thing isn't specifically casuals but the gamers that are there just because gaming is popular now. The safe games like CoD are more lucrative right now because of the bloat in gaming popularity. There are a lot of gamers that basically don't even know other game's exist outside like CoD, assassin's creed, and a few others. A lot of those gamers are there because of the popularity more than anything else.

Basically because those gamers buy up every iteration(much like mzp) there's little incentive to make anything else. When mkwii sells 30+mil copies and nsmbwii sells 20 mil or whatever, why bother making anything else. Heck sakurai even said he cut content from smash and it still flew off the shelves. I suspect, and I could be wrong, that if gaming wasn't considered "cool" like it is now these games would still be big sells but not capable of carrying an entire company, and flooding the market with these games wouldn't be quite as safe a bet. That would force companies to diversify their offerings and cater to a larger variety of gamers.

Catering to a niche makes that niche more happy than if you make a game for everyone so just tiny portions of niche desires are doled out. I'd love to see it where it's more profitable to make a game for every niche than one game for everyone.

Even though there are still some games I'm looking forward too, overall since starting with the nes I'd have to say so far this is the worst generation for gaming.

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#49

Yorumi commented on Talking Point: Nintendo's Flirtation With Micr...:

@DdFixen the problem with games like pokemon shuffle is they're designed specifically to target addictive personalities and exploit them much like casinos. You get addicts on the games paying absolutely ridiculous amounts of money. There will be people who pay thousands of dollars playing this game, that is just purely exploitive.

While the person who spent that money does bear responsibility, it's also unethical and wrong to take an alcoholic on a pub crawl. There are ways to do free to play well as I mentioned before but exploiting addicting is absolutely wrong no matter how you look at it. That's what is wrong with these games and why no one should be supporting them at all, when you do you're only contributing to the problem.

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#50

Yorumi commented on Talking Point: Nintendo's Flirtation With Micr...:

The microtransaction games designed to bleed people dry like the pokemon gmae have serious ethical concerns for me. I do love the term "whale" since that's what con men and high pressure sleazy salesmen refer to the customers they can bleed dry as. Fitting company indeed. These games are designed to target addictive personalities and exploit addiction. I've seen these people spend over $700 in a weekend, imagine what you could get spending $700 on retail games. That's not normal behavior, that's addiction and the exploitation thereof. It's sickening to see nintendo getting into that market.

There are ways to do free to play correctly, like customization options and other suck small things, the idea being that a person shouldn't realistically be spending more than the standard retail price for the game. Another example is MMOs, traditionally they would cost between $10-15 a month to play. Some models of mmos offer the game free, but heavily lock down your account, paying the subscription unlocks everything.

Obviously we should all expect to pay for content but addiction is not something to be exploited. That's just wrong on any level and anyone who's seen the data on microtransaction games knows that's exactly what they're doing.