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AuthorRe: Suikoden Tierkreis
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12,576. Posted:

here's my trade routes. i only started keeping track of things on paper (as opposed to just in my head) about halfway through the game, so not all of these places will be available for you to trade between until then (the info should still help you decide what to trade or what to sell where early on if you're in a pinch, though... take the Dried Truffles you pick up in battle to Salsabil to get the most money for them, and the same for any Glow Beads).

the prices to max out these items in your inventory will stay the same unless the trading vendor has gossip for you -- sometimes the price of a certain item will go up, sometimes it will go down. all vendors will say the same thing during a price change event (i had them saying for like five stops in a row that Iris Lazulis could be sold for ten times their normal price once) until it is over, and i haven't figured out a reliable way to predict when a price change event will end (or begin) yet. always check the gossip before buying or selling (most of the time they won't tell you anything, but there have been times i wasn't paying attention and lost money on it), and then make your own decision whether to buy or sell at that price. the only price change event i have seen happen multiple times so far has been Iris Lazulis. I've had Giant Bug Shells and Glow Beads both drop drastically in price one time each, and there was one time that Rainbow Thread went up to ten times its normal price, and that was it.

there are also some things that won't show up for sale from trade vendors until you have traded enough lesser items... Uncut Emeralds beget Large Emeralds, Thread begets Cloth (buy Cotton Thread at Salsabil and sell in Citro early on), etc. i would have to play through again to figure out exactly what isn't available at the outset, though, because i don't really remember it all at the moment. but anyway.

Old Route: Grayridge, Salsabil, Citro, Naineneis, Cragbark, Tehah

Grayridge:
BUY
Uncut Emerald 15000
Sunshine Stone 10000
Giant Bug Shell 28000
Piercer Beak 26000
Eternal Feather 29000
Cotton Cloth 42000
Wool Cloth 45000
Glow Bead 15000
Large Emerald 30000
SELL
Rainbow Cloth 60000
-240000 +60000 =-180000

Salsabil:
BUY NOTHING
SELL
Life Lichen 80000
Iris Stone 75000
Piercer Beak 44000
Cotton Cloth 58500
Large Emerald 75000
Iris Lazuli 150000
=+482500

Citro Village:
BUY
Demon Corn Ear 28000
Dried Truffle 18000
Lizard Frill 25000
SELL
Giant Crab Meat 45000
Giant Bug Shell 50000
-71000 +95000 =+24000

Naineneis:
BUY
Giant Crab Meat 28000
Life Lichen 64000
Rainbow Thread 50000
Rainbow Cloth 50000
SELL
Dried Truffle 38000
Fish Guts 57000
Uncut Emerald 32000
Dragon Hide 48000
Lizard Frill 40000
Wool Cloth 75000
-19200 +290000 =+270800

Cragbark:
BUY
Fish Guts 40000
Iris Stone 30000
Dragon Hide 20000
Iris Lazuli 60000
SELL
Sunshine Stone 27000
Demon Horn 60000
Butterfly Wing 48000
Eternal Feather 39000
Glow Bead 30000
-150000 +204000 =+54000

Tehah:
BUY
Demon Horn 29000
Butterfly Wing 35000
SELL
Demon Corn Ear 55000
Rainbow Thread 70000
-64000 +125000 =+61000[/lj-cut]

TOTAL: -180000 +892300 =+712300

New Route: Woodland, Naineneis, Cragbark, Pharamond, Tehah, Grayridge, Salsabil, Citro

Woodland Village:
BUY
Dried Truffle 14000
Pekklar Meat 40000
Dragon Meat 30000
Life Lichen 40000
Gold Ore 40000
Giant Bug Shell 18000
Eternal Feather 16500
Cotton Cloth 42000
Glow Bead 15000
SELL
Demon Corn Ear 64000
Giant Crab Meat 50000
Uncut Emerald 34500
Scorpion Hide 94050
Dragon Hide 60000
Demon Horn 60000
Butterfly Wing 70000
Rainbow Thread 95000
Rainbow Cloth 95000
Large Emerald 75000
-255500 +697550 =+442050

Naineneis:
BUY
Giant Crab Meat 28000
Scorpion Hide 49500
Rainbow Thread 50000
Rainbow Cloth 50000
SELL
Fish Guts 57000
Lizard Frill 40000
Wool Cloth 75000
Silk Cloth 85500
-177500 +257500 =+80000

Cragbark:
BUY
Fish Guts 40000
Uncut Emerald 29500
Iris Stone 30000
Dragon Hide 20000
Butterfly Wing 48000
Silk Thread 20790
Silk Cloth 60000
Iris Lazuli 60000
SELL
Dragon Meat 60000
Sunshine Stone 27000
Eternal Feather 39000
Glow Bead 30000
-308290 +156000 =-152290

Pharamond:
BUY
Demon Corn Ear 25000
Lizard Frill 16000
SELL
Dried Truffle 14000
Pekklar Meat 72000
Giant Crab Meat 43000
Gold Ore 100000
Uncut Emerald 35000
Iris Stone 50000
Scorpion Hide 99000
Giant Bug Shell 70000
Butterfly Wing 60000
Piercer Beak 72000
Silk Thread 48510
Rainbow Thread 100000
Cotton Cloth 58500
Rainbow Cloth 100000
Iris Lazuli 100000
-41000 +1022010 =+981010

Tehah:
BUY
Pekklar Meat 58000
Iris Stone 41000
Demon Horn 29000
Butterfly Wing 35000
Iris Lazuli 80000
SELL
Dragon Hide 45000
-243000 +45000 =-198000

Greyridge:
BUY
Dried Truffle 22000
Giant Crab Meat 32000
Uncut Emerald 15000
Sunshine Stone 10000
Giant Bug Shell 28000
Piercer Beak 26000
Eternal Feather 29000
Cotton Cloth 42000
Wool Cloth 45000
Glow Bead 15000
Large Emerald 30000
SELL NOTHING
=-294000

Salsabil:
BUY NOTHING
SELL
Demon Corn Ear 44000
Dried Truffle 35000
Pekklar Meat 76000
Life Lichen 80000
Iris Stone 75000
Piercer Beak 44000
Lizard Frill 40000
Cotton Cloth 58500
Glow Bead 21000
Large Emerald 75000
Iris Lazuli 150000
=+698500

Citro:
BUY
Demon Corn Ear 28000
Scorpion Hide 52480
Dragon Hide 24000
Piercer Beak 34000
Lizard Frill 25000
Rainbow Thread 52000
Rainbow Cloth 50500
Large Emerald 55000
SELL
Giant Bug Shell 50000
Eternal Feather 32000
-320980 +82000 =-238980[/lj-cut]

TOTAL: -883270 +2201560 =+1318290

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AuthorRe: 08 was epic!!!
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12,577. Posted:

warioswoods wrote:

IGN doesn't even have a coherent concept behind this word "hardcore," even though they worship it with a sort of blind, fundamentalist reverence. I wouldn't take anything they say seriously.

this.

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AuthorRe: Okay, the Wikipedia Virtual Console "Coming Soon" list is ****.
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12,578. Posted:

weirdadam wrote:

It is, actually!

plz to remember to cite your source(s) when adding potentially controversial statements :P

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AuthorRe: Iwata stopped by the house yesterday
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12,579. Posted:

well, they seem to prefer their peripherals be usable for multiple games, so that makes sense... :P

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AuthorRe: Are you male or female?
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12,580. Posted:

WolfRamHeart wrote:

Well, you never know? He may still return one day! He might even be watching over us right now, just waiting to strike! He certainly made things "interesting"!

which is exactly why i wanted to avoid mentioning his name in the first place. :P

in other news, i heard there was cake in this thread?

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AuthorRe: Pictobits question...
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12,581. Posted:

me too. there's a couple of levels that are fun, but are crap for raking in coins with, so i keep going back to the same coin-making levels so that i can buy stuff. playing for coins that way is kinda boring. :P

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AuthorRe: E3 2009:The Official Topic
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12,582. Posted:

if you get G4 where you are, Terranigma, they've had live coverage of E3 for the past couple years now IIRC, and they are promising coverage of the Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft conferences this year too. considering their E3 2008 site still has video of those conferences up, even if you aren't able to see them live I'm sure G4TV.com will have them up for you/us to watch afterward. :)

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12,583. Posted:

@Chicken Brutus: buying the music once gets you the basic music that starts when the level starts. have you ever played through a level so long that the music changes, though? it gets a little bit fuller or richer, and i believe the song is a little longer because you're adding that on; that's what you're paying for when you buy it again.

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AuthorRe: Are you male or female?
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12,584. Posted:

another female here. also,

SuperSonic1990 wrote:

weirdadam wrote:

Perhaps you were not here during the NPC Thread Era.

Don't forget the It's My Birthday thread era,it was a golden era. :D

don't get me wrong, the peace we've had lately has been absolutely lovely and i'm not terribly sad to see him not having posted in a while, but whatever happened to the dude who kept the furor going in both of those threads?

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AuthorRe: Okay, the Wikipedia Virtual Console "Coming Soon" list is ****.
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12,585. Posted:

SSBFan1999 wrote:

you should never trust Wikipedia 's Virtual Console "Coming Soon" list for anything

there, fixed that for you. always do your own research, do not trust Wikipedia on its own (at least check the article's references for yourself and read their 'sources' first). :)

and warioswoods is right; if you've got proof some of those games indeed are not coming, or you've done extensive searches on your own and cannot find proof of their eventual release anyway, remove it and try to start up a discussion on the Talk page. you may not end up getting any answers, and you may just end up fending off a lot of (misinformed) people who try to edit those games back into the list, but it's your baby, dude.

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AuthorRe: HELP ME PLEASE!!!
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12,586. Posted:

sorry, i'd completely forgotten about this thread. did you figure out what was wrong yet, or are you still stuck?

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AuthorRe: Suikoden Tierkreis
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12,587. Posted:

good times, man. if you're interested, i worked out some trade routes for when you get halfway through the game and upgrading your characters' equipment starts to eat away at your resources. trading is also important to get certain items to be sold in your castle (by trading Butterfly Wings, the Butterfly Robe becomes available for purchase, for example) once you recruit the character who sells weapons and armor (he's an automatic recruit, so don't worry about missing him :3).

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12,588. Posted:

I suppose we'll find out soon enough. i just hope they didn't find him in violation of the Talent Wellness Program again. :(

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12,589. Posted:

@Josh: that sucks; hopefully he was just playing up his new character. i was kinda excited to see him back, but he went too quick from 'saving us' from Orton to 'saving us' from ourselves. he's just no fun anymore. :(

but hey, at least you got to go to a show! :3

@Locke: what?!??? he just came back on Monday, didn't he? no way! DDDDD:

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AuthorRe: DS/GBA import games do you own?
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12,590. Posted:

I've got both Ouendan games, but i haven't made it all the way through either of them on all difficulties yet (i got kinda bored in the middle of the second level of Ouendan 1, and I only just started Ouendan 2 the other day when I needed a break from Tierkreis). I also bought a copy of Tadashii Kanji Kakitori-Kun via eBay to help me with my kana writing skills, and had been looking to import a copy of Kanji Sonomama Rakubiki Jiten, but i kinda went broke and had to curb my eBaying for a while. ^^;;

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12,591. Posted:

SupermarketZombies wrote:

Seriously though, a new Megaman Legends would blown my pants off.

now that is a game i haven't thought of in a long time and I wouldn't mind playing a new installment of. i would say i'd be happy to see the N64 version (Mega Man 64) show up on the VC, but i remember i specifically preferred the PSX version for some reason i can't recall at the moment. hmm.

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12,592. Posted:

Jerichoholic+Josh wrote:

Deadpool, used to be Chris Jericho

that's all right, i think it's still fairly obvious you're a Jericho fan :)

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AuthorRe: Favorite Paper Mario Game.
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12,593. Posted:

Crono wrote:

theblackdragon wrote:

Mine is the original Paper Mario. Super Paper Mario was fun, but it just wasn't the same. still need to get my hands on a copy of The Thousand-Year Door (never had a GC, so i never got it).

Never had a GC? Well if you by chance have a Wii your in luck ;)

i do indeed, it's just a matter of finding the game available for sale/auction and having the spare cash on-hand to purchase it with. :3

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12,594. Posted:

@madgear: sorry, i just carry a torch for this game in particular because i've got so many negative memories of frustrating play sessions, especially when the next two NES TMNT games were so much more accessible in comparison (and fun, hello two-player action :D). i still think the first game is absolutely terrible, it ranks at the top of my personal list of the worst NES games i've ever played (is it sad that i had more fun playing Bible Adventures? i think so), and i would never recommend it to anyone who's never played it before (except, perhaps, a worst enemy, lol), but i can see where perhaps other people would not feel the same.

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12,595. Posted:

NSMB2 would be very welcome (especially if it's a revamped SMB2(US) as opposed to just a direct sequel to NSMB), but Super Princess Peach... eh, it was all right, but i don't think i'd get real worked up over it unless it had some extra gameplay features added or a better plot than the first.

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12,596. Posted:

ouch, Adam... nowadays, an ad-blocking feature would probably make or break a decision to switch browsers for me. too many of the sites I visit have really obnoxious, in-your-face ads (not that this place does, but i'd already blocked so many ads on other sites that apparently I had all the ones used here blocked already and didn't know it, lol) for me to not have some way to avoid them all. D:

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12,597. Posted:

Mine is the original Paper Mario. Super Paper Mario was fun, but it just wasn't the same. still need to get my hands on a copy of The Thousand-Year Door (never had a GC, so i never got it).

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12,598. Posted:

@Adam, warioswoods: Adblock Plus is the best Firefox add-on ever. I swear I didn't even realize this place had ads until I visited it with my DSi. ^^;

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12,599. Posted:

this would only be a problem if i actually watched G4 for anything besides the occasional episode of Cops. i wish they'd picked up Code Monkeys for a third season. :/

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12,600. Posted:

@Kim Jong-Il: lol, you're ronery. :)

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