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IceClimbers

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#1

IceClimbers commented on Sega Won't Have A Booth At This Year's E3:

@rjejr Actually, with the 3DS I'd say it's more the 3rd parties carrying it than Nintendo. For the 2nd half of the year we have Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold, Rodea the Sky Soldier, Project X Zone 2, and Stella Glow all lined up for the west. What do we have from Nintendo? ...Yeah, not a single retail game.

In fact, the only games lined up from Nintendo at all for the 3DS in the future that we know about are Fire Emblem If and Rhythm Heaven - the former isn't coming to the west until 2016, while the latter hasn't even been confirmed for the west yet.

What on earth are they working on for the 3DS? WarioWare? Advance Wars? Golden Sun? Metroid? Starfy? Some other franchise (Punch-Out, F-Zero, Wave Race, Sin & Punishment, etc)?

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#3

IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: Is Konami About To Exit The Con...:

@Raycon That actually applies to most franchises that haven't gotten new games in a while because they "don't sell". Well duh, of course they didn't sell, the company didn't actually give any proper effort at trying to sell it! F-Zero, Wave Race, Mega Man, and many other franchises from Nintendo, Sega, Capcom, etc. don't get new games because those companies don't give any effort at trying to sell it!

Same applies to localization. Many franchises stop getting localized because "they don't sell well in the west". Well yeah, you have to actively try and push those games in the west! You have to build a fanbase. Monster Hunter is proof of that.

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#5

IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: Is Konami About To Exit The Con...:

@AtlanteanMan Yeah I'm guilty. Last game I actually purchased on a Nintendo system was Smash 3DS. Game before that was Wind Waker HD. Got MK8, Smash Wii U, and Pokemon Alpha Sapphire as gifts. Don't have 3D World, Tropical Freeze, Triple Deluxe, Bravely Default, Hyrule Warriors, Bayo 1+2, Captain Toad, MM3D, MH4U, or Codename STEAM, and not interested in Kirby Rainbow Curse, Mario Golf, or Mario Party.

I do have a PS4 though, for which I have purchased Dragon Age and Dying Light, and got Far Cry and Lego Marvel as gifts, plus Injustice through PS+.

....Maybe gaming is too expensive of a hobby for me these days. Don't have the time or money for most games these days.

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#6

IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: Is Konami About To Exit The Con...:

@Quorthon Xenoblade Chronicles X might be able to make a profit depending on the size of the game's budget. Zelda U likely costs as much, if not more, and might not make a profit either.

Honestly, remakes are the only reason Zelda is kept around as a mainstay. If it weren't for those remakes, Zelda would likely join Star Fox and the other franchises (or at least on home consoles). It doesn't make enough profit. Who knows if they'll break even on Zelda U. If XCX has a big enough budget that they can't make profit, then they aren't gonna make profit from Zelda U most likely. I should point out that Nintendo themselves said that they found Skyward Sword's sales very disappointing. Zelda U obviously costs much more to make than Skyward Sword did.

I think a lot of people misjudge when something is actually a "flop". Take Bayonetta 2 for example. Most people consider it a flop. Is it really though? Was Nintendo able to make a profit off it? If so, then it's not technically a flop, just a very meager success.

A better example is Fatal Frame. That game can get away with selling very few copies and still technically be a success because it's budget is extremely small.

@BinaryFragger Do those figures include digital sales?

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#7

IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: Is Konami About To Exit The Con...:

What happened with Konami is the same thing that happened to Sega and Capcom: all 3 of them saw the "Call of Duty numbers" and wanted a piece of that pie. They tried to chase after those numbers continuously, but AAA game development is extremely costly. They have to sell millions upon millions of copies in order to break even, let alone make profit.

They westernized their franchises in an effort to chase after the "CoD crowd", an audience that simply wasn't interested in their games for the most part, while ignoring the western audience they already had. Now most of those classic IPs are being sat on (Nintendo and Namco are also guilty of this, but not to the extent of Sega, Capcom, and Konami) because they don't appeal to the mainstream "CoD crowd".

Now look at where they're at. Sega is restructuring to focus on mobile and PC with the exception of Sonic games and Atlus. Konami is releasing fewer games, is losing Kojima, and has cancelled Silent Hills. They more than likely will leave the AAA console space after Phantom Pain.

With Capcom, anyone notice that all of their bigger budget games have been platform exclusive this gen (ignoring PC)? Dead Rising 3 on Xbox, Deep Down and Street Fighter V on PlayStation, and Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate on 3DS. All of them are backed by the platform holders. Their other games (Ace Attorney, REmake Remastered, Revelations 2) have been digital only primarily and are far smaller in budget. Why is this? Capcom can't afford AAA multiplats on their own!

I seriously doubt that Konami will make much off of The Phantom Pain. That budget is far too high. I do expect them to leave the AAA space to focus on other ventures, most of which is non-video game related. They'll still make mobile games unless that bubbles and pops. They won't sell their IPs because they can use them to promote pachinko machines.

I think Sega, Capcom, and Konami's situations paint a pretty grim picture of the state of AAA gaming, or at least the Japanese side of it.

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#8

IceClimbers commented on Poll: Is It Time For a Fresh Alternative to th...:

Implement crossbuy. That's what people are asking for. Not "an account system". Nintendo HAS as an account system. Your purchases are tied to that NNID. The NNID, however, is tied to the hardware and there is no cross buy. The NNID treats the two different versions of a game as two different games. So "Super Mario Bros" on the 3DS VC is treated as a separate game from "Super Mario Bros" on the Wii U VC.

It should just be one "Super Mario Bros" game. It needs to be where you can purchase a game once and add it to an overall collection. Not two versions for each system made into two separate games on the same account.

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#12

IceClimbers commented on Konami Removes Its Listing from the New York S...:

Konami's issue comes as a result of them making the same mistake that Sega, Capcom, and Square Enix made. All four of them made the same mistake at the same time - they saw the "Call of Duty numbers" and wanted to have that kind of success, so they tried to appeal to that crowd, who they perceived as the "western audience", even though that crowd was never interested in their games and they already had a western audience that actively supported their games.

Granted, pretty much the entire industry tried to go after the "Call of Duty success", but western developers were able to do so more easily because the market shifted as a result of Japanese devs/publishers attempting to appeal to the mainstream CoD crowd and ultimately failing.

Square Enix had better luck than Sega, Capcom, and Konami because they realized their mistake earlier and were able to have western studios making western games for them, allowing their Japanese devs to return to form.

The other three didn't have that luck. Sega has been flinging Sonic at a wall hoping one sticks while ignoring their other franchises and not localizing games, and are now having to switch focus to mobile and PC exclusives instead of console games. Capcom was on the verge of bankruptcy after repeated anti-consumer policies and well, look at them now. All of their big games so far this generation are exclusives (SF5, Dead Rising 3, MH4U, Deep Down) because they required some sort of backing by Sony/MS/Nintendo, while their other games are smaller budget games that are digital-only (REmake, Revelations 2, etc). Then there's Konami, who hasn't done anything of note for the past several years other than some meh Castlevania reboot and 2 demos, one of which is paid. MGS5 is the only upcoming game from them now. The last truly noteworthy game from Konami was MGS4. Yeah...

By the end of this generation, I'd be surprised if Sega, Capcom, and Konami are still making console games. Konami I think will leave gaming completely to chase after the rising pachinko scene (which will skyrocket if gambling becomes legal in Japan). Sega will probably go mobile/PC only outside of Atlus stuff (as well as the pachinko scene). Capcom I have no idea.

Honestly, the state of Sega, Capcom, and Konami I think paints a fairly good picture of the state of the industry. Sure, the industry may be worth a ton, but that won't mean anything if companies leave/go under and gamers just get fed up.

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#13

IceClimbers commented on Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black ...:

@Quorthon Honestly, with all of the news surrounding Konami and looking at it alongside Sega and Capcom's current states, I don't think Nintendo would do very well at all as a 3rd party.

If Nintendo went 3rd party, they'd be flinging Mario and Zelda at a wall much like Sega is doing with Sonic in hopes that one would stick and actually make decent profit. Nintendo's other franchises like Metroid would be in the same dark closet that Mega Man, Shenmue, Bomberman, and all of the other Capcom, Sega, and Konami franchises are, never to be seen again outside of re-releases.

When it comes to console gaming, it's either indie or AAA. A and AA games are pretty much no more. There's a reason companies are stooping to anti-consumer policies and abusive microtransactions/DLC and games that are released in pieces. AAA gaming is becoming more and more unprofitable.

This system will collapse upon itself as people get fed up. The gaming industry is a giant bubble ready to burst. Nintendo will do no better as a 3rd party.

Besides, there's no audience for their games outside of pre-existing Nintendo fans. That number isn't large enough for AAA console multiplats to be profitable for them. Sales mean nothing if games aren't profitable - they won't be able to reach the number of sales that would be required to reach any decent amount of profitability.

Japanese development is becoming irrelevant in console gaming whether we like it or not. Unfortunately, this also means that many iconic franchises will inevitably die, or they will become mobile-specific games that are lower quality. Or they'll be on the side of pachinko machines in Japan. Maybe Nintendo should take that up. Gaming will become unprofitable for them.

Time for an industry crash (or at least AAA gaming).

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#14

IceClimbers commented on Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black ...:

Overall, I'm not interested in this game at all. Ghosts and Advanced Warfare were horrible. I'm kinda done with the CoD franchise. More interested in other shooters. Battlefront looks better than this, but all of the content cut from that game is discouraging me from getting it. Seriously, no space battles, Clone Wars era, or Galactic Conquest?! WTF, EA/DICE?

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#15

IceClimbers commented on Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black ...:

@liljmoore Bayo 2 did get ads on TV. Nintendo just made the mistake of having an exclusivity deal with Adult Swim, where there's very limited ad space that Smash, Fantasy Life, WoW and CoD were also competing for ad space.

Was a good idea of them to partner up with Playboy for that game though.

@FragRed That's true. Their marketing was horrible. Also didn't help that their development resources were focused on 3DS games to turn that system's situation around. The 3DS's bad launch hurt the Wii U big time.

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#16

IceClimbers commented on Treyarch Isn't Working on Call of Duty: Black ...:

@FragRed That's part of the problem: the critics and analysts kept saying that Nintendo needed to drop the Wii and release a console on par with the 360/PS3. That's exactly what Nintendo did with Wii U. Didn't work out very well. Now they are doing the same thing and are saying that Nintendo needs to just release a console on par with the XB1/PS4. If Nintendo does that with the NX (assuming it's a home console of course), it'll go down the exact same way. People will just wait for the XB4/PS5 that will surely "blow the NX out of the water." NX has to be on par with the XB4/PS5.

Devil's Third looked rough last year because it switched graphics engines mid development. The game kinda went through development hell.

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#19

IceClimbers commented on The Mechs of Xenoblade Chronicles X Are Named ...:

@AVahne The actual definition of the word skell actually makes the name fit somewhat. After all, they are made and controlled by the humans, who can be considered homeless and are forced to take refuge on an alien planet where everything is foreign to them (and they are foreign to the natives). It's completely possible that the humans are seen as criminals in a way by some of the natives.

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#23

IceClimbers commented on Editorial: Nintendo's Problems With Trends and...:

@IronMan28 The irony in that is that Nintendo created Nintendo Direct because of the negative press twisting their words.

The media likes control just as much as Nintendo does really. Gotta wonder if Nintendo Direct has created more negative press for them or not. At least all of the news is clear and not scattered :P

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#25

IceClimbers commented on Editorial: Nintendo's Problems With Trends and...:

While I'm not gonna defend the creators program, Nintendo flagging videos that contain their IP isn't always them. A lot of it is YouTube's Content ID system. Google deserves a lot of criticism for this system because it makes other people and corporations look bad, as the system automatically flags videos that have copyrighted material in them - one of Nintendo of America's videos was taken down because of a copyright claim "by Nintendo of America" once.

Overall, if Nintendo were to go third party, then Xbox and PlayStation need to die ASAP. Consoles hold the industry back. Xbox and PlayStation offer nothing I can't get on PC other than a handful of exclusives, they offer less options and are now stuck in the past much like Nintendo is (just not as severely). Xbox and PlayStation are too busy trying to play catch up with PC. They're failing at it. Sony's sales numbers make it worse for them as more people realize they aren't being offered what they could be.

If Nintendo were to go third party, their games may have the potential to sell way more and reach a far bigger audience, but we all know that the cold harsh truth is that it's FAR more likely they'd be niche like they are now, essentially reaching pre-existing Nintendo fans that may have left, but no one else. That's reclaiming lost ground, not actually expanding their audience.

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#26

IceClimbers commented on Famitsu Unleashes Xenoblade Chronicles X Score:

@pyrotek85 At the same time though, if the reviewer gives the game a good score despite not having played enough hours to fully grasp the game, it can be (not always though) indicative of a really great game. Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate is a great example of this. They definitely didn't play enough to get the full idea of the game, yet gave it a great score based on the few hours they did play.

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#27

IceClimbers commented on Video: Nintendo Inks In 'Claim Your Turf' Mark...:

@Technosphile Actually, Nintendo does advertise on Comedy Central frequently depending on the game. Pokemon X/Y was advertised there first. It wasn't directly advertised on kids networks at all actually.

Also, there's far more to advertising than what you described. That would actually be pitiful advertising if Nintendo, or any company for that matter, only did that.

First thing: TV ads are not the be all, end all of advertising. I don't get how so many people seem to still think that. It's not the 2000's anymore. It's 2015.

The big issue of Nintendo's ads aren't the direction they're going, it's the lack of branding. Take a look at any PlayStation or Xbox ad (TV commercial, web banner ads, video ads, in store displays, etc). What's the big thing you always see at the beginning and end of those ads (or around them for non-video ads)? That's right, the PS or Xbox logo, color, and sound. Nintendo doesn't do that.

At this point, Splatoon has actually had better marketing than MK8 did. Only Smash had better marketing.

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#29

IceClimbers commented on Video: Nintendo Inks In 'Claim Your Turf' Mark...:

@rjejr Pretty sure that Uncle Grandpa, Normal Show, and Ninjago are all on Cartoon Network, not Nick. Nick has mostly live action shows these days, with the exception of TMNT and them running Spongebob and Fairly Oddparents into the ground.

All three channels (Nick, CN, and Disney Channel) are a shell of their former selves really. Long gone are the days of Recess, Rugrats, and Dexter's Laboratory.

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#37

IceClimbers commented on Poll: Would You Like Mario Kart 8 and Super Sm...:

@DarthNocturnal I'd have to agree.

With Sakurai making an appearance at a Fire Emblem concert for the series' 25th anniversary (why aren't we getting that Nintendo?), I think Roy is almost a surefire inclusion.

I could see this being the schedule:

Mewtwo - April
Lucas - June
Roy - August
Ryu - October (this is when the Fighter Ballot ends)
Wolf - December
Fighter Ballot Pick #1 - February/March/April 2016
Fighter Ballot Pick #2 (?) - June/July

I don't see them doing any more than 2 characters from the ballot, and even then I'm not sure we'll get more than 1.

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#38

IceClimbers commented on Poll: Would You Like Mario Kart 8 and Super Sm...:

I'd like to see DLC for both, but too much DLC will hurt the next Mario Kart iteration.

As for Smash, well, I hate to say it but the more DLC it gets, the further the next Smash is pushed back. It's currently sitting at swansong status for the NX as it is. Release too much more DLC for Smash and I think the NX may not even get a new Smash Bros.

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#39

IceClimbers commented on Nintendo Highlights Increased US Hardware Sale...:

@Quorthon @FlaygletheBagel

That's probably the only reason Mario Party 10 sold that many copies - lack of other new games on the system. Otherwise it would have failed as most Nintendo fans don't care for the Mario Party series anymore. Most feel that the series went downhill (it did) and they absolutely despise the stupid car mechanic.

Had there been other new games, I doubt MP10 would have even sold that many copies.

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#42

IceClimbers commented on Video: Xenoblade Chronicles X May Have Been Su...:

This particular sequence seems to be the only one that was downgraded though. Other parts of the game were shown to be upgraded, including some of the environments.

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Overall, parts of the game might have required a graphics downgrade to smoothly run that big of a game.

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#44

IceClimbers commented on Games Consultant Believes Nintendo NX Could Be...:

@DarkKirby Appealing to hardcore gamers simply won't work though. The market has shifted for too long. Appealing to hardcore gamers means appealing directly to Xbox/PS gamers, who won't be phased by Nintendo trying to appeal to them. They'll stay on the platforms they are on. 3rd party multiplats on Nintendo aren't appealing to those hardcore gamers because they can already get those games on their current platform.

Simply put, those hardcore gamers may switch between Xbox/PS, but they'll never switch to something outside of that ecosystem, unless it's PC. Nintendo has absolutely no chance at taking that demographic back. Trying to now will be seen as laughable, desperate, and too little too late.

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#45

IceClimbers commented on Unity Support Is Coming To The New Nintendo 3DS:

I don't think this particularly means anything about the 3DS line. DSi was released in 2009, and the 3DS was announced in 2010. New 3DS in 2015, NX in 2016. Only reason we know about the NX at all is because they had to say something about it when they made the mobile announcement. If it hadn't been for that, we most likely wouldn't know about the NX until next year. Not really any evidence towards one over the other - could be a handheld, could be a console.

Anyways, great to see Unity support on New 3DS.

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#47

IceClimbers commented on Rumour: Project X Zone 2: Brave New World Head...:

And it's confirmed for a Fall 2015 release not just in Japan, but in the west as well! Thanks Namco for confirming it for the west.

Square must be still waiting for that check from Nintendo for Bravely Second to announce it for the west.

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#48

IceClimbers commented on Poll: Is Splatoon a Blockbuster That'll Help R...:

@rOOski187 @MasterBlaster In that case, the only games considered considered successes are Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros, with 3D World and Wind Waker HD selling moderately well.

That also makes the 3DS not as good as people make it out to be, as there's no excuse with the install base it has. Zelda did actually a lot worse than people think on that system. Tomodachi Life outsold both OoT3D and ALBW, if that gives you any clue.

Edit: Ok, let me rephrase that first sentence of the second paragraph. What I meant is that many 3DS games that people consider at least somewhat successful are actually flops, such as Fire Emblem Awakening, Kid Icarus Uprising, Mario & Luigi Dream Team, and arguably Zelda A Link Between Worlds.

Basically, "successful" is a manipulated term that can be taken in different ways when different contexts are used.

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#50

IceClimbers commented on Poll: Is Splatoon a Blockbuster That'll Help R...:

I'm excited for Splatoon, and I think the game will do well. Will it sell systems? No, nothing will. Will the game do well? I think so.

Marketing for the game has been better than any other Wii U game with the exception of Smash Bros. It has hands on demos at events like APEX, WonderCon, and PAX. It has media coverage. It has a positive reaction (minus the voice chat thing). It has word of mouth, especially on social media. There's in-store displays with a great tagline. It's featured in EDGE (on the front cover even!). It has amiibo. It's been in Nintendo Directs. Only things missing are TV commercials and other merchandising outside of the amiibo. It'll get a TV commercial soon enough.

Just because something doesn't have a TV commercial, doesn't mean they aren't advertising it. Also, if you only put out a TV commercial and call it a day, then you fail at advertising. TV commercials aren't the only form of advertising, and it pains me how so many people think it is.