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IceClimbers

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#1

IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: It's Too Early to Write Off the...:

@NebulaGamer Didn't Miyamoto say they had to scrap a good portion of Pikmin 3 that was developed for Wii, meaning they had to redo those portions on Wii U? I think the game could have looked even better if it had been built from the ground up for Wii U and without the deadline it had.

Anyways, given the fact that "2016" was never said in the announcement of Zelda's delay, that could be telling of its fate. A spokesperson said that the new release window for Zelda "has yet to be determined".

Assuming the NX is a home console or a hybrid, then I do think they'll pull a Twilight Princess.

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#4

IceClimbers commented on Nintendo Direct Confirmed for 1st April, With ...:

@Quorthon Quite true. If the NX is a hybrid, what you described seems like the best option to keep costs at least at a reasonable level. Otherwise they might as well just play the clip of Kaz Hirai saying "599 US dollars" (that would actually be somewhat amusing, but at the same time facepalm worthy).

As far as the PS4 and XB1 go, we don't know if they are still outpacing their predecessors. I'm sure the PS4 is, but I'm not so sure the XB1 is. Remember, the 3DS was outpacing the DS at one point too, and we all know how quickly that changed. I'm not sure how long shareholders and developers will allow the PS4 and XB1 to stay on the market - I don't expect developers to allow them to stay as long as the PS3/360 have, especially when the two systems are quite outdated even in comparison to some mid-range PCs.

Will be interesting to see which year the PS4 peaks. 2016? 2017? 2018? Hard to say. I can't fully predict the future. For the first couple years of last gen, it was pretty much the general opinion that the PS3 would never catch up. We all know how wrong we all were. For all we know, the XB1 may pick up it's pace with numerous exclusives - whether timed or full - and sell more than the PS4 in the end.

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#6

IceClimbers commented on Nintendo Direct Confirmed for 1st April, With ...:

@aaronsullivan The Smash DLC isn't unreasonable, unless you mean it being available following the presentation. The Miiverse/tourney update and Mewtwo is a safe bet, especially since the Club Nintendo offer ends today.

A Star Fox teaser (CGI) is possible. I wouldn't expect actual gameplay until E3 though.

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#8

IceClimbers commented on Nintendo Direct Confirmed for 1st April, With ...:

Anyways, my predictions (leak is fake until proven real):

  • Smash DLC (available following this presentation?)
  • MK8 DLC info
  • Splatoon (release date?)
  • Xenoblade 3D
  • Puzzle & Dragons
  • Xenoblade Chronicles X
  • amiibo waves
  • amiibo reader for older 3DS models.
  • Indie reel
  • Pokemon Rumble World
  • N64 games on Wii U VC
  • More Wii games confirmed for the eShop
  • Mother 3 confirmed (April Fool's Day joke)

The Treehouse stream will probably be for Splatoon.

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#9

IceClimbers commented on Nintendo Direct Confirmed for 1st April, With ...:

@Quorthon That would suggest that the NX is a handheld and not a home console then. We know of more games for the Wii U coming from Nintendo in the 2nd half of the year than for the 3DS. The 3DS's 2nd half of the year only has Rodea the Sky Soldier confirmed. That's 3rd party and on Wii U as well. Most suggestions of games are localisations of 3rd party games or Pokemon, which doesn't count as Pokemon doesn't come to new hardware until 2 years in anyway.

What's coming to the 3DS from Nintendo? Fire Emblem? I doubt that's coming to the west in 2015. Rhythm Heaven? Maybe. That's literally all we know of.

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#13

IceClimbers commented on Nintendo Download: 2nd April (Europe):

Weak week on 3DS (like the past few weeks)? Business as usual.

Weak week on Wii U? WTF Nintendo. Nintendo Direct confirmed!

That about sums up this comment section. The hypocrisy is real.

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#14

IceClimbers commented on Head Teachers in the UK Issue Warning to Paren...:

While I do think there are a lot of cases where parents aren't paying enough attention to what their kids are playing and watching, this is NOT the solution.

With increasingly high divorce rates and many parents focusing on their career, many kids aren't getting taught certain lessons, such as knowing the difference between fantasy and reality.

No, letting your child play games like GTA and CoD isn't neglect. So long as you are paying attention and at the very least making sure your kids know the difference between fantasy and reality, then your kids are fine.

Violent video games won't have a majorly negative influence on children. Playing Ace Attorney doesn't make you a lawyer, so how does playing GTA make you a rapist/murderer? The media likes to blame violent video games for tragedies when in reality it's mental health issues.

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#16

IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: The Legend of Zelda on Wii U Ma...:

@ThomasBW84 You might want to take a look at this:

Following the news of Zelda's delay, Game Informer conducted a poll asking fans what their most anticipated release for the Wii U in 2015 is now. Here's the results:

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As you can see, Xenoblade Chronicles X actually came out on top by a fairly wide margin, with Star Fox as runner up and Splatoon in 3rd.

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#17

IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: The Legend of Zelda on Wii U Ma...:

@Caryslan I think he means that they'd have to throw their standards out the door and lose their soul in order for the console to sell - the kiddy stigma prevents it from selling well regardless of 3rd party support and on par hardware.

In a way, he might be right. 3rd parties won't stay if their games don't sell on the NX. Where there's no demand, there's no supply. Basic economics. Nintendo has to get Xbox/PS gamers to switch. Looking at it from an Xbox/PS gamer's point of view, there's no way in hell I'd switch over from the platforms I've been on for the past 10-20 years to Nintendo's system just because they have multiplats - you know, games I can already get on Xbox/PS. I imagine this applies to the majority of gamers.

I honestly think the stigma around their home consoles will prevent them from being able to fully fix their situation.

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#18

IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: The Legend of Zelda on Wii U Ma...:

@FlaygletheBagel Ok, that was poor wording on my part. I think what I was getting at is that some PS4 owners might feel that their purchase isn't justified over the XB1. Without comparing it to anything though, you're definitely right that there are games to play. MGS V and Star Wars Battlefront are two big examples (hopefully the latter is good).

Yeah, the budget title trend will definitely continue throughout the last of the system's life cycle. With those titles, I'm sure some of them are great, and I'm certainly not going to bash Nintendo for giving games a lower price that aren't worth $60 (which other companies could honestly take note of, such as Ready at Dawn with The Order 1886), but there definitely could be some more meaty games as well, though they are better suited for the NX at this point (assuming the NX is a home console of course). As previously mentioned, Zelda, Xenoblade, Yoshi, and Devil's Third are the only ones that justify a $60 price tag. There's also Splatoon, though I don't know if that one is $60 or not. For all we know, Yoshi could be a $50 title like Tropical Freeze was.

For me, Xenoblade will take up what little time I'll have for gaming anyway, so the lack of releases won't be too much of a problem.

@Grumblevolcano That's a good point. If that happens, then MGS V will definitely win GOTY (it probably was going to anyway), while Arkham Knight, The Witcher 3, Bloodborne, and Xenoblade Chronicles X are nominated. There's also No Man's Sky, but I have my doubts with that game. It's promises remind me that of Spore's.

That would also set up 2016 to be pretty solid: Street Fighter V, Final Fantasy XV, Mass Effect 4, Quantum Break, Uncharted 4, Halo 5, Zelda U, etc.

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#19

IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: The Legend of Zelda on Wii U Ma...:

@FlaygletheBagel While true, the lack of a big holiday exclusive does hurt Sony in the eyes of most PS4 owners. 3rd party games may soften the blow in comparison to Nintendo, but they certainly do not in comparison to the Xbox One, as it has those games too and a big holiday exclusive (Halo 5).

Also, the significant lack of games in general was going to reflect poorly on Nintendo even if Zelda was releasing this year. Zelda wasn't going to change that.

Also, you're quite right about most of them not garnering a $60 price tag. The only games coming in the second half of the year that can justify that price tag are Yoshi, Xenoblade, and Devil's Third. Star Fox I honestly think is a $40-$50 budget title.

@Grumblevolcano Ahh, good to know. Thank you.

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#20

IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: The Legend of Zelda on Wii U Ma...:

People, it's not about boosting Wii U sales anymore. Nothing will do that, not even Zelda. It's too late for that. Quit thinking about system sales people.

Finding a new big holiday exclusive is not for sales. It's for the sake of having one. Not having a big holiday exclusive reflects badly towards the owners of the system and in the industry. Sony is currently set to have two holiday seasons in a row now without a big holiday exclusive now that Uncharted has been delayed. That will reflect badly on them in the eyes of PS4 owners.

Xenoblade is really the only game Nintendo has coming that can work as the big holiday exclusive. The first one was only niche because Nintendo made it niche. This time there are people paying attention to it, and that is in no small part due to comparisons with Final Fantasy XV. The 80 minutes of gameplay we got at E3 helped too (though unfortunately Nintendo only uploaded the first 40 minutes to Youtube).

If Nintendo uses Xenoblade as the big holiday exclusive, then they will give it a good marketing push.

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#22

IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: The Legend of Zelda on Wii U Ma...:

@DarkKirby The gap refers to the lack of a major exclusive, not 3rd parties. That's another topic entirely. Zelda was the big holiday exclusive. Now there's a gap. Same goes for the PS4 - it has no big holiday exclusive either. And no, 3rd parties do not soften that blow as people can get those games on the Xbox One.

Edit: Also, anybody that thinks 3rd party support will sell the NX is delusional. Does Nintendo need them? Yes. Will it help them? No.

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#23

IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: The Legend of Zelda on Wii U Ma...:

@Quorthon They need a plan B for their big holiday exclusive. Not to move consoles (that ship sailed a long time ago), but to have something for the sake of it and to please current owners, even if they're not interested in the game. Not having a big holiday exclusive reflects badly.

No game will be able to fully fill that void, but Xenoblade is their best option. Star Fox is a budget title given how short its dev cycle is. If it's not a budget title, it'll be delayed as well. A budget title won't fly as the big holiday exclusive, regardless of how well known the franchise is.

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#24

IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: The Legend of Zelda on Wii U Ma...:

@Cyberbotv2 With PC you can pretty much ignore the PS4 and XB1. It strips them of multiplats and brings it down to exclusives, in which case the XB1 is even worse off than the Wii U as most XB1 "exclusives" are available on PC. PS4 literally only has 1 exclusive that's worthwhile at this point: Bloodborne.

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#25

IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: The Legend of Zelda on Wii U Ma...:

@KillScottKill It has a better chance than the rest of the lineup. With Zelda delayed, Xenoblade is now their best choice as the big holiday exclusive. No other game can possibly come even close. If Metroid is coming for Wii U, it won't be this year. Star Fox is very likely a budget title given its short dev cycle, if not, then it will be delayed too.

Besides, at this point it's about having a big holiday exclusive for the sake of it, not about moving systems.

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#27

IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: The Legend of Zelda on Wii U Ma...:

No, Xenoblade will never be able to fully replace Zelda or sell more. However, it's the best option to replace it as the big holiday title. Star Fox is likely a $40 budget title because of how short its dev cycle is and Mario Maker I'm willing to bet will be an eShop-only release. If Mario Maker gets a physical release, it will be a $30 title.

Xenoblade is now their biggest game for this year. Star Fox might be more well known, but an on-rails only shooter like SF64 that's released as a budget title won't be seen as a big holiday exclusive.

If Star Fox isn't a budget title, it will be delayed to next year.

So Xenoblade is their only option as the big holiday exclusive unless they pull Animal Crossing out of the hat, and even then I wouldn't expect it to have the same presence as New Leaf because it's not portable.

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#28

IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: The Legend of Zelda on Wii U Ma...:

@TwilightAngel I was talking about Xenoblade in comparison to Star Fox. Obviously neither will sell systems the way Smash would. As you said, the Wii U is a failure at this point. That's why it doesn't matter that Zelda is delayed - it wasn't going to save an already failed console as it is, so might as well delay it to make it as great of a game as possible.

With Zelda delayed, that leaves Star Fox or Xenoblade as the big holiday title unless they have something big up their sleeves (Animal Crossing is the only likely one - Metroid is a 2016 game if it's happening on Wii U, as it may be pushed as an NX (assuming it's a home console) launch title instead).

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#30

IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: The Legend of Zelda on Wii U Ma...:

@Peach64 I'd imagine Xenoblade has a better chance at selling systems than Star Fox. Star Fox I think will be a $40 budget title. If Xenoblade is the big holiday game now, then that means they'll push marketing for it. Meaning it can sell better. Great for Xenoblade sales wise. Though if the game was originally meant to release at the end of summer, then I have to wait even longer to get my hands on it...

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#31

IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: The Legend of Zelda on Wii U Ma...:

@Boxmonkey First off, they never said NX will be shown at next year's E3. It could very easily be revealed beforehand (both the PS4 and XB1 were revealed prior to E3). Second, we don't know if they will actually reveal it. They said they'll share more information, which for we all know could mean a few details from Iwata and not an official reveal at all. Third, we don't know what NX is. It may very well be a next gen handheld to replace the 3DS family. Of course, it will kill off the Wii U's momentum in the mean time as the media keeps assuming it's a Wii U successor.

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#35

IceClimbers commented on The Legend of Zelda for Wii U No Longer Set fo...:

@TwilightAngel I think they're more likely to release it broken instead of delaying it so they can capitalize on their competitors not having a major exclusive that can compete over the holidays.

Even if it isn't broken it might not be that great of a game anyways. There were plenty that didn't like what 343 did with Halo 4.

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#36

IceClimbers commented on The Legend of Zelda for Wii U No Longer Set fo...:

@sinalefa Sales wise maybe, but they won't be fine in terms of owners being disappointed that they won't have anything major justifying their PS4 purchase over an XB1.

Literally the only thing justifying a PS4 over an XB1 right now is Bloodborne (fantastic looking game from what I've seen... need to pick it up once I clear some of my backlog - Smash kept me away from other games I got the last few months :P).

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#37

IceClimbers commented on The Legend of Zelda for Wii U No Longer Set fo...:

@Baker1000 Localization on Xenoblade Chronicles X started a while ago. I think localization will be finished in May/June and that the game was slated for late summer, but with Zelda's delay, I think it will take Zelda's place as the big holiday title.

Meanwhile I'm almost half expecting Splatoon to be delayed until late Summer (August) to compensate for Zelda's delay.

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#43

IceClimbers commented on The Legend of Zelda for Wii U No Longer Set fo...:

Honestly think Star Fox will be delayed too unless it's a short SF64-like on rails shooter. This means no big holiday title for Wii U. Honestly expecting them to push Xenoblade Chronicles X to November now (for the US and Europe).

Or they may decide to be really evil and delay Splatoon to November.

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#45

IceClimbers commented on Sony Hardware Takes Charge of Japanese Charts ...:

@Quorthon Wasn't really saying Devil's Third would sell well, was just pointing it out as a recommendation. Bayonetta 2 supposedly sold faster than DKC Tropical Freeze did.

Ok, I definitely didn't include the VC. Granted, most people don't pay attention to it, and it won't make Nintendo look bad to anyone that isn't an owner.

To be fair, the other companies are relying on long running franchises as well - Halo 5 and Uncharted 4 are the biggest games for the other two systems respectively. Then there's Street Fighter V, Persona 5, Forza 6, LBP3, etc. Pretty much every company relies on established franchises.

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#48

IceClimbers commented on Sony Hardware Takes Charge of Japanese Charts ...:

@PlywoodStick Wouldn't be surprised if Bloodborne eventually made its way to PC. What's sad is that it's not like it's just the high end PCs that dwarf the PS4/XB1 - plenty of mid range PCs dwarf them as well. With all of the remasters, broken games, overhyped games, and increasingly abusive DLC practices (looking at you, Evolve), eventually people will get fed up. I've already seen people comment that they'd be shocked if there isn't an industry crash by the time 9th gen rolls around at the rate these companies are going.

To be perfectly honest, if this stuff keeps up I'll welcome a crash with open arms and a round of applause. The companies will have brought it upon themselves. Also wouldn't be surprised to see Sony and MS's inevitable push for 4K on their 9th gen systems blow up in their face because they tried to push 4K before the market is ready for it. Hard to tell if 4K will catch on to the widespread market as fast as HD did.

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#49

IceClimbers commented on Sony Hardware Takes Charge of Japanese Charts ...:

@Quorthon Puzzle & Dragons will be a big hit in Japan because it's Puzzle & Dragons, not because of Mario. Mario isn't as much of a big time seller in Japan, with the exception of Mario Kart. Zelda is even worse - Yokai Watch 2 outsold ALBW's worldwide sales, and yet that was before the franchise even turned 1 year old and only in Japan.

Also Nintendo can only put out remakes? There's only 5 remakes on Wii U and 3DS, unless you count DKCR3D and Xenoblade 3D as remakes. Even then, at least those remakes are actual remakes and not some lazy remaster where all they did is essentially put the game on higher settings like a user could on a PC version of a game.

Sony and Microsoft fans, including myself, are absolutely pissed at them and the third parties for all these bloody remasters that wouldn't exist if the systems had backwards compatibility. If the trend continues it WILL come back and bite them in the *** later down the road.

As for Xenoblade, I fully expect it to outsell Zelda in Japan. Zelda is niche there. Xenoblade can take off as a franchise considering the first one sold more than every Fire Emblem not called Awakening. So yeah, I wouldn't worry about the franchise being killed off.

On a side note, Tomodachi Life sold more worldwide than either OoT3D or ALBW.