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IceClimbers

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#1

IceClimbers commented on Super Smash Bros. on 3DS Lacks Circle Pad Pro ...:

@Yorumi Foto Showdown, Ghostwire: Link to the Paranormal, Picture Perfect Hair Salon, System Flaw, and in Europe, Face Training: Facial exercises to strengthen and relax from Fumiko Inudo. They weren't exactly good games (except maybe Ghostwire, but that got delayed indefinitely), but the point still stands.

As for the price, it would definitely have been $300 minimum. Remember, Nintendo had always sold their hardware at a profit from launch up until the 3DS, which sold miserably because of Nintendo doing that. As the New 3DS is more powerful, then Nintendo would have done the same thing but priced it accordingly (at $300).

PS Vita was $250 because Sony sold it at that price to be competitive with the 3DS, but as a result they sold the system at a massive loss. Not sure if the current Vita (which is cheaper to produce because it doesn't have the OLED screen) is sold at a profit or not.

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#2

IceClimbers commented on Super Smash Bros. on 3DS Lacks Circle Pad Pro ...:

@Yorumi Actually, you did. There were plenty of retail DS games that could only be played on DSi. Whether they were good games is another matter, but that is irrelevant.

Who's to say Nintendo won't label the few exclusives as only playable on New 3DS?

Also, it's not our fault Nintendo stuck with the Game Boy as their handheld for 3 console generations (NES, SNES, N64). Regardless of them being labeled as Game Boy Color games, it was still the same platform. The time lapse means absolutely nothing.

Xenoblade is the only game right now that is exclusive to the New 3DS. A Wii port. The other games just have added features that make them better on New 3DS, like many DS games did on DSi.

Also, if the New 3DS was the original hardware, the system would have cost $300 minimum. The 3DS would have taken longer to get off the ground (if at all), the handheld market could be nonexistant right now, and the Wii U would be selling like the Xbox does in Japan, if not worse (even with MK8 and Smash, which would be 2015 games in this case).

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#3

IceClimbers commented on Super Smash Bros. on 3DS Lacks Circle Pad Pro ...:

@Yorumi Game Boy Color and DSi say hi. The New 3DS is no different from those - hardware revisions of the same platform that had some exclusive games.

Want an example of a game? Pokemon Crystal. It's a Game Boy game that was not playable on the Game Boy, but was playable on the Game Boy Color, which was still the same platform. Sure, Nintendo may treat them as separate platforms now, but not then. I'm willing to bet that Nintendo will do the same for the New 3DS later on.

Also, think. Would Nintendo really want to make the majority of future 3DS games exclusive to the new model? Why would they cut their own software sales like that when they MAKE THEIR MONEY FROM SOFTWARE SALES?!!!! Very few games will be exclusive to the new model as a result.

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#5

IceClimbers commented on Koei Tecmo Europe All But Confirms Fatal Frame...:

@Technosphile Not exactly like this would have come out anywhere else in the next six months if it was being localized anyway <img class=" />.

Besides, the lineup still has Yoshi.... and that's about it for Spring. Splatoon is clearly going to be a May title, as it and Zelda seem to be the pillars of their advertising for next year, like MK8 and Smash Bros this year.

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#14

IceClimbers commented on Sakurai Explains Reasoning Behind Removal Of I...:

@Yorumi You do have a point there. I was actually thinking about that after I had posted my previous comment. In my previous comment I said that the clones would have taken less time than the Ice Climbers, but that may not be true because the Ice Climbers were already built on both versions, it was just a matter of getting 4 of them to run smoothly on 3DS. Basically trial and error (and a bit of luck) - could take a few days, could take weeks.

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#15

IceClimbers commented on Sakurai Explains Reasoning Behind Removal Of I...:

@R_Champ @rp17 Both of you are wrong on that. Smash was announced for both systems before Wii U was out. It was never planned for 3DS only, and it being on 3DS is in no way because of "fans screaming and crying because of not wanting to buy a Wii U" as the SYSTEM WASN'T EVEN OUT YET!!!!

It was planned for both systems from the beginning, though Sakurai was trapped into a corner as he hadn't been planning on making one before Iwata announced it for both systems. Sakurai seemed more than willing to take on the game though.

@Yorumi All of the veterans were rebuilt from the ground up for Smash, which would include Ice Climbers as well. Dark Pit, Lucina, and Dr Mario's models were already built as alt skins, so it didn't take anywhere near as much time to modify Pit, Marth, and Mario for the clones' movesets. Ice Climbers would have taken much more time.

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#16

IceClimbers commented on Sakurai Explains Reasoning Behind Removal Of I...:

@Yorumi If they included the Ice Climbers as a Wii U exclusive, they'd be slapping 3DS owners in the face. The 3DS version and Wii U version aren't completely different games, they're 2 different versions of the same game, basically what they do with Pokemon.

Sakurai doesn't care about console sales one bit, and he isn't going to let that affect his design and development process. Why should Sakurai be forced to make the 3DS version inferior just to improve Wii U sales? The character roster (minus Lucina, Dr Mario, and Dark Pit) was decided upon at the beginning of development back in 2012. It's an all or nothing thing. He had already promised that both versions would have the same roster. Making Ice Climbers Wii U exclusive doesn't provide an incentive, it just slaps 45 million 3DS owners in the face with a broken promise.

Sakurai wanted to be all-inclusive with the roster. He's not going to make Ice Climbers Wii U exclusive, and they won't come back as New 3DS exclusive DLC (that's a VERY shady business move).

Oh yeah, and Smash was already announced for both 3DS and Wii U way before the Wii U even launched, so the Wii U's sales situation is completely irrelevant.

As for the hardware, 3DS has a weaker processor than the GCN did. It couldn't handle the extra AI, and so Ice Climbers had to be cut. Doesn't mean they won't come back in Smash 5.

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#20

IceClimbers commented on Retailer Lists Super Smash Bros. Wii U for 21s...:

Sonic Boom launches on November 18th in North America, but the 21st in Europe. I personally think that Smash will likely have the same release schedule as Pokemon ORAS: November 21st in NA, a week later on November 28th in Europe.

I could be wrong about the European release date, but I'm almost 100% sure November 21st will be the NA release date.

I don't see Sonic Boom selling that well given that Nintendo cannot afford to release Smash Wii U after Black Friday in the US. Black Friday sales are absolutely crucial.

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#23

IceClimbers commented on Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate Expo Banner Raises Q...:

@LetsGoRetro The biggest reason to not want it on Wii U is the massive 3DS vs Wii U double standard going on in the fanbase.

Whenever 3DS owners ask for something on Wii U to come to 3DS, such as Mario Maker or GBA games on VC, Wii U owners attack them saying "NO, buy a Wii U. Support the system" (I've even seen some of them get called fake Nintendo fans). However, whenever there's a 3DS exclusive like MH4U, those same Wii U owners come begging for it to come to Wii U and/or bash Nintendo for "ignoring the Wii U". The amount of people I saw bash Nintendo for not making Pokemon ORAS a Wii U exclusive was ridiculous.

That double standard in the fanbase rather irritates me.

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#24

IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: The Super Smash Bros. 3DS Demo ...:

This was a brilliant move by Nintendo. By the way, Pokemon ORAS is getting a demo too, though it's Japan-only at the moment I believe. In that demo you can choose between Grovyle, Combusken, and Marshtomp, and you can get access to a new Mega Evolution that hasn't been revealed yet. It also says to play the demo every day for something special, and that any items you acquire can be sent to the full game.

I'm 100% sure that two records were broken for Nintendo Life yesterday. The number of new accounts created in one day, and the number of comments on a single article.

Also, massive shoutout to @Sir_JBizzle. Thanks for the code!

@rjejr We'll find out soon enough!

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#25

IceClimbers commented on Demo for Super Smash Bros. 3DS Announced for N...:

@BorkBorkBork I haven't received an email from Nintendo yet. Not sure if I have email notifications from them on or not, and the Club Nintendo site is a nightmare right now. I got a code from a very generous fellow Nintendo Life member.

If/when I do get my email, I will be sure to distribute the codes!

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#33

IceClimbers commented on Yokai Watch 2 Back at Number One in Japan - Wi...:

First off, LOL at Microsoft.

Second off, Yokai Watch has taken back the crown. Enjoy it while it lasts, because there are three challengers approaching that WILL dethrone you. You all know what those three games are. The last of the three, oddly enough, is the rightful king of Japan, coming with a nostalgic vengeance.

Third off, I couldn't care about sales talks about Nintendo this week - the hype train is going at near top speeds for Smash.

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#36

IceClimbers commented on Nintendo Treehouse Confirms 8 Hour Twitch Broa...:

@Mega719 Something tells me they will be playing the same demo that was in Japan these last couple days, just in English. I don't think they'll reveal all of the characters, though they might reveal one.

It doesn't matter though because we will know the full roster that day anyway as it will have released in Japan by that time.

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#37

IceClimbers commented on Nintendo Treehouse Confirms 8 Hour Twitch Broa...:

I wonder what time this starts.
My predictions of what we'll see besides Smash:

-Final footage for Hyrule Warriors and Bayonetta 2 (outside of launch trailers)
-Mario Kart 8 DLC Pack 1
-Fantasy Life
-Pokemon ORAS (new Mega Evolutions.... that will probably be revealed in Corocoro this week anyway?)
-Persona Q
-Shantae and the Pirate's Curse
-Affordable Space Adventures
-Some VC game coming soon (think Murasame Castle at Comic-Con)

As for Smash...... New character reveal? Veteran reveal? A bunch of Smash Run gameplay? Bill's tears?

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#39

IceClimbers commented on Video: Mii Fighters Get Ready For Smash Bros. ...:

@ModestFan93 That marketing can be taken care of by TPCi, so Nintendo doesn't have to worry about it themselves. Hyrule Warriors and Bayonetta 2 launch before the holiday season starts (or at least HW; Bayo is borderline on what we consider the holiday season in the gaming industry). Smash, amiibo, and Captain Toad will launch right in time for the major holiday shopping season overall.

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#40

IceClimbers commented on Video: Mii Fighters Get Ready For Smash Bros. ...:

Am I the only one who fears that Nintendo won't advertise any game not called Smash this holiday? Pokemon ORAS would probably be ignored too, but TPCi will take care of advertising that. The other major games (Hyrule Warriors, Bayonetta 2, Captain Toad Treasure Tracker, Pokemon Art Academy, etc) I feel will be ignored completely.

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#45

IceClimbers commented on North American Club Nintendo Replenishes Its P...:

Club Nintendo isn't really worth it anymore other than for the occasional deal like the smash bros soundtrack. I still check every month for games in case there's one that I want.

NoA needs to do a complete refresh of their physical rewards and put all-new items up.

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#46

IceClimbers commented on Sorry, Contrary to Rumours the New Nintendo 3D...:

@Zombie_Barioth True, though Nintendo has done a lot better job when it comes to localizing games recently. I mean, would you have ever expected Nintendo to localize Tomodachi Life last generation? I remember seeing a Japanese trailer for the game a few years back. I said "there's no way in hell they'll ever localize this". Had to eat my hat this year :P

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#47

IceClimbers commented on Sorry, Contrary to Rumours the New Nintendo 3D...:

With how backwards Nintendo is, if they didn't have region locking many games would NOT BE LOCALIZED!!! Games like Bravely Default, Tomodachi Life, and even Fire Emblem Awakening may have never been localized if the 3DS was region-free. It would have spelled the end of the Fire Emblem franchise.

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#48

IceClimbers commented on Yokai Watch 2 Finally Stripped of its Top Posi...:

@Mega719 While a lot of those Japanese games would be considered niche here, they're technically AAA in Japan. Same way that Call of Duty or Gears of War are considered AAA here, but are considered niche in Japan. Vita has a lot of support from these Japanese developers, so it sells well there.

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#50

IceClimbers commented on Nintendo Direct on 4th September to Reveal Mor...:

These game-specific Directs are far more important than the general Nintendo Directs as it gives each game the spotlight. Besides, there's nothing to reveal in a general Nintendo Direct right now (the new 3DS models aren't gonna be announced in NA till much later people).