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TheRealThanos

American/Dutch halfblood

Male, 45, Netherlands

Nothing wrong with your eyes: I'm a 45yo gaming dinosaur. Started gaming at 5yo (Atari2600). Used to play NES/SNES at a cousins', but never owned any. Had an Amiga500 & GBC, after that my 1st console: N64. Besides Dreamcast & Xbox360 I own most Nintendo systems, because of the 'Nintendo difference'.

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TheRealThanos

#1

TheRealThanos commented on Dragon Quest XI Is Coming To The Nintendo 3DS ...:

@rjejr Aha, the AtGames range of retro consoles. I recently mentioned the Atari one in the forums because someone asked:
http://www.atgames.net/front/bin/ptdetail.phtml?Part=AR2670C&Category=100718

As for the hardware question: If I would HAVE to put them in a tough position, then I would at least expect them to stay in the handheld business, so no: they don't HAVE to make a home console equal to, but by their own words they would rather fall upon the virtual sword than stop making hardware.
And the advantage of AMD/x86 architecture would be compatibility and scalability in league with the other two.
If the Unseen64 rumor is true and it is weaker than PS4 then it is either a handheld or it could be a home console that falls smack dab in the middle of the other two, since it being weaker than PS4 could still mean that it is equal to or slightly more powerful than the Xbox One, since that is also weaker than PS4 but it gets the same multi-platform games regardless, thanks to similar architecture and scalable game engines that can run on practically any device ranging from heavy game PC's to your humble tablet or smart phone.
Only time will tell, I guess...

TheRealThanos

#2

TheRealThanos commented on Dragon Quest XI Is Coming To The Nintendo 3DS ...:

@rjejr I think we can agree upon "cautiously optimistic". That would still almost equate to super enthusiastic in the sh** storm that is blowing across the internet when it concerns Nintendo nowadays... ;)
I should have elaborated on the unified architecture bit, or rather the name:
until somebody proves me wrong, I firmly believe in the unified architecture concept, mainly because of Mr. Iwata's quotes, so to me that's a given for now. That doesn't mean that the codename they use doesn't stand for hardware, because it probably does: thank you Reggie, Eiji Aonuma and Kensuke Tanabe for spilling the beans on that part.
The software/architecture/platform could still be named Nintendo Experience, though, since NX for the console is just a codename so that will be changed eventually. But that bit was more of a figment of my imagination if anything. Would be fun if that turns out to be true...
And you'll have to excuse me but what the hell is a Jakks Pacific box? Haven't been State side for many years, so if that's something only available in the US, chances are I never heard of it or seen it before.
Nintendo is probably never going to stop making hardware, since contrary to the other two it's their core business. This is not directed at you, but to me it's so ridiculous that so many people keep bringing that up. That's like saying the baker is going to stop making bread, cakes and cookies or the butcher would stop selling meat. What else would be left? Other than the baker using his expertise as an advisor in some factory or the butcher turning into a vegetarian shop... Nah... I'm not seeing that as a plausible outcome. They're not Sega: they still make money, even with sales being as little as they are, so they'll be fine.
And they themselves have more than once said that they would sooner get out of the business entirely than stop making hardware. They will also lock away their IP's so no one can abuse them, like some tried in the past. (looking at you, Philips)
But no need to excuse yourself for all the doom and gloom: it's getting harder to keep smiling in the sh** storm that is the internet, like I already previously mentioned. Sometimes you probably feel just like Murtaugh from Lethal Weapon: too old for this sh**. I know I do. All these senseless discussions, people wanting to be right or displaying their ultimate, "greater than thou" knowledge on a topic (which they probably just Googled during the discussion). Give them a keyboard and an internet connection, and even the biggest losers in the world all of a sudden have a voice. And then there's the thing of having to interpret text without sound or without seeing someone's face. (hence my slight confusion on your sarcasm earlier this week)
I also think I'm always very clear and decisive in my online reactions, but still people interpret some parts in their own way and things come across entirely different from what I had intended or people try to read between the lines, when there is no reading between the lines with me: I mean what I say, and I'll say what I mean. That can sometimes come across as rude or pompous, but it is neither. It's just who I am. Almost like a New Yorker. Must be the European influence... ;)
I'd like to think I can fathom Nintendo to some extent: I've done a lot of business with Asian companies in the past, so I had to try and understand them a bit better in order to be able to treat them in the way they were used to instead of like some tunnel-visioned hillbilly with no knowledge of their customs and traditions. A little bit of effort can go a long way towards them appreciating you, I can tell you that. And they have a very different work ethic too. We often blame Nintendo for stuff that in their eyes isn't nearly as strange as to us. To them we are the ones that are acting strange. Often times they will probably just shrug it off as us being silly Westerners, and to be honest, if you read through some comment sections on some of the more fanatical websites, you can't help but think that they may just have a point.
Or maybe I should have just stopped this train of thought at the end of the "too old" part... ;)

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#5

TheRealThanos commented on The Legend of Zelda on Wii U Still Has a TBC R...:

@readyletsgo No need to apologize, I was just making sure you knew I wasn't on a fantasy trip for the Wii U and blindly discounting all the negatives. (like a true fanboy would) I'm more of an all-round gamer. I'm not a Nintendo exclusive gamer: I have a bunch of different consoles (none of the new ones, by the way) and I do some gaming on the PC, nothing too heavy, mostly RTS, soccer, racing and some puzzle games.

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#6

TheRealThanos commented on The Legend of Zelda on Wii U Still Has a TBC R...:

@ichiban as a tip to avoid bad playback of the videos when watching online: just download them using a YouTube downloader and watch them on your PC with your own media player. Don't know which browser you use, but in Firefox I either use "Easy YouTube Video Downloader Express" or "Flash Video Downloader".

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#8

TheRealThanos commented on The Legend of Zelda on Wii U Still Has a TBC R...:

@readyletsgo it's not a trailer, it's 4 minutes of actual gameplay. And I'm not one of those fanboys you describe. Way too old and smart to still be busy with dumb stuff like that... ;)
@Ichiban No worries, man. It's your opinion and I respect that. Personally, I also think it would be better to put this on the NX, I just want to keep a glimmer of hope for Wii U owners (I'm not one of them) that aren't to keen on putting away their Wii U in favor of the NX. And another Twilight Princess deal could happen, we are talking about Nintendo after all...
Also, besides the ground textures, I don't think it looks that bad. If I remember correctly, there's also another demo that is full screen, but I haven't found it yet.

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#9

TheRealThanos commented on The Legend of Zelda on Wii U Still Has a TBC R...:

@ichiban A very fine answer I'm sure, when evidence pointing to the contrary is presented. I would be interested to know what makes you think this couldn't be done on Wii U. The 4 minute play session did run on the original hardware and it didn't seem to suffer for it.
That is not to say that the entire game could sort of "outgrow" the system during the development process and might have to be ported to the NX after all, but for now it is still on target for Wii U as well.

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#11

TheRealThanos commented on The Legend of Zelda on Wii U Still Has a TBC R...:

@Ichiban

"There's no way the Wii U is pulling that off!"

What do you suppose is happening here then?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXnTYsHOd5E
Seems to be working just fine and it's running on a Wii U. Granted, I would also like to see it take full benefit of the superior hardware that the NX will undoubtedly have, but I think it is also safe to say that if anyone can make this game look and run beautifully on Wii U, it is Nintendo themselves.
Their own efforts outshine any third party offering by multiple factors.
In the end it will probably get the same treatment as Twilight Princess though, and will appear for both Wii U and NX, so you can choose.

TheRealThanos

#18

TheRealThanos commented on Dragon Quest XI Is Coming To The Nintendo 3DS ...:

@rjejr You're starting to be a bit more moody/dark here and there, sarcasm or not. I would also love to hear some of the good things you're expecting to happen, if any... ;)
As for the third party situation: it's not so much that I truly think that is what will happen (safe for the Nintendo fans not buying (enough) third party games bit), but more of a sinking feeling that I have, because lately, third parties will always find some excuse and so eventually you start to think that they indeed won't come back regardless. The apparent positive reception they got off-stage at E3 gives some hope, but still...
As long as they don't add another peripheral that cripples the main device as far as power is concerned (as per your "Nintendo would skimp on" remark), then they could easily come up with something only slightly below or equal to PS4 for a lower price, since those components are now a whole lot cheaper to buy, especially if you buy them by the truckloads, which a console manufacturer obviously does.
I think that if they go towards true AMD/x86 architecture, they will also adopt the larger HDD and RAM (to me it actually seems a given regardless), although they might still forgo dvd/bluray playback because of copy protection and so on. But the other things will probably be fixed since they've gotten way too much negative feedback on that, so I suspect they've finally learned their lesson there.
Personally, I would not be that bothered if dvd/bluray playback was left out, since I hate convergence devices and I don't buy a console to play movies on: I have a dedicated Bluray recorder that has cost me way more than a console, has more options, better sound and what not, so as a film purist I could never truly enjoy a movie to the fullest on a console, which at best contains a mid range Bluray player, but definitely no high end device.
I like dedicated devices vs jack of all trades, master of none systems....
I have no idea about the release date so that is another discussion, we will just have to wait until more info is in on that part as well as on what the hell NX actually is, because it's certainly keeping a lot of people on here divided: console, handheld, hybrid, whatever...
If I go by the quotes again, then NX might even be a code name for the Nintendo Experience, which would be a uniform format that could be scaled across several devices, as I speculated on before, so NX in itself wouldn't be hardware at all then, although in the schematic they released a while back it was called "dedicated game system" so that kind of blows my idea out of the water. Or does it? Might be Nintendo being their old secretive self...
http://images.nintendolife.com/news/2015/03/nintendo_working_on_new_dedicated_game_platform_codenamed_nx/attachment/0/630x.jpg
As for price point and sales: as a sales & marketing professional that's my area of expertise and I can promise you that if they can come up with a system that delivers a definite added value to both third parties and consumers, then the price will be of lesser concern. People will buy more expensive things if they can see what's in it for them, so if they think or feel the value is there, they WILL be more than willing to buy a slightly more expensive device.
And the PS4 will be old news by then and NX, if they handle it well, will be new and exciting, which also mitigates the price to an extent, so all these factors combined will definitely contribute to a $299 system being equally interesting as an older system that has been reduced in price to $199. I've sold computers and related devices that were WAY more expensive than that and people were still quite happy to hand over the cash...

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#19

TheRealThanos commented on Dragon Quest XI Is Coming To The Nintendo 3DS ...:

@rjejr 35 years is the amount of time I've been in Europe. In age I'm only 5 years behind you. (check the profile) ;)
As for NX, I also wonder if it will see much third party support, but then I didn't quite say that it would. In my humble opinion Nintendo could make the most powerful and most easy to develop for console in the world and STILL a lot of third parties probably wouldn't see much benefit in putting their triple A games on it. If the NX sells like hot cakes they probably will, because they will be able to make a nice profit, but the Nintendo buyer is certainly partially responsible. All good or decent efforts of third parties on Wii U, while getting good scores in magazine and online reviews, were hardly rewarded in sales by the Nintendo gamer, which is also what made a lot of third parties that were still on the fence about Wii U decide to not develop for it, and the few third parties that did, dwindled away like snow in July...
So, it has to be a combination of efforts: Nintendo console owners need to buy more third party games, Nintendo needs to attract more third parties by making a console that is interesting to them both hardware and software wise, and they need to market the hell out of it, to prevent another "is this just a peripheral for the previous console?" situation.
As for the piece of the puzzle that I mentioned in a previous comment: to me this news points to Square Enix being one of the parties that Nintendo showed the concept of the NX to at this year's E3, and that also points to all the other things that I already suggested: I think few third parties will get excited by another strange concept with different hardware that makes it harder to develop for or optimize games/port games. And I also don't think many big third party developers will get that excited by an Android based concept, so boring as it may seem for Nintendo, because it does sound quite (too?) conventional for them, I still think it is going to be a similar architecture as the other two have, so x86/AMD based.
Obviously, we still have quite a bit of waiting to do until they officially show us something, but a man can speculate, right? ;)

TheRealThanos

#20

TheRealThanos commented on Dragon Quest XI Is Coming To The Nintendo 3DS ...:

@rjejr I know New Yorkers to be in your face and mostly very direct, but I didn't know you were an NYer. I'm originally from California myself, so maybe some stuff is lost in translation. And on top of that, I've been living and working in Europe for so long now (almost 35 years) that for all intent and purposes, I'm probably more European than American. I notice that myself sometimes when exchanging ideas with former fellow country men. I've taken a more European view, or let's just say a broader view on the States and their machinations throughout the world...
Still love my roots though, wouldn't want to have it any other way, and now I'm living in Amsterdam, greatest city of that little country called the Netherlands.
As for NX, what with all the AMD, architecture "like brothers" and starting from zero quotes, I'm still going with a home console and scalable OS that'll fit both home console and handheld and any other device they add on.

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#21

TheRealThanos commented on Dragon Quest XI Is Coming To The Nintendo 3DS ...:

@TwilightAngel "Love" your profile text. Very social for one so young and far from wise in the ways of the world... ;)
(did you change it? I have really positive memories of some discussions with you, but now you seem to come across so sour. Correct me if I'm wrong)
Why so angry already? Assuming you've still got quite a few years to go I hope you also have a lot of things in your life that you don't hate. Which is a very strong word to use for people that you don't even know, by the way. And at the end of the day, what is there to get so worked up about anyways? Nobody is claiming we have to be in agreement all the time or have to be the one that knows it all, because none of us do and are. It's just people talking about consoles and games, a friggin' hobby, for f**** sake...

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#23

TheRealThanos commented on Dragon Quest XI Is Coming To The Nintendo 3DS ...:

@rjejr Oh man, I don't know where to put the "/sarcasm" in your comments anymore. I'm confused. I need a drink, but it's way too early... ;)
ON TOPIC: taking all this at face value and assuming this is correct, would mean that yet another piece of the puzzle falls into place.
By the way: I read your forum topic on the Android consoles being in competition with Wii U. Interesting and quite divisive, to say the least...

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#24

TheRealThanos commented on Editorial: Super Smash Bros. Should be Integra...:

@shani That is just the point: the non-HD graphics don't matter once you start to play and enjoy the system. Unless you're a graphics whore of course... ;)
The system has many great games in it's library, also some with very large worlds or stories (like Fire Emblem), and some of them even add to your Wii U experience (and the other way around) with interchangeable options between titles such as Monster Hunter and also Smash Bros and there are probably a few more.
But obviously it also depends on your taste in games, so like I said before: don't hesitate to ask me anything, or maybe go to a (second hand) game shop and try some games for yourself...
Graphics are no excuse to not buy this handheld. It's all about the gameplay and having fun. A handheld will most of the time not be on par with a home console graphics wise (although the Vita came close. But look where it ended up, so apparently that is not the most important thing then, right?) so you also shouldn't judge it based on graphics alone.
And obviously a handheld is easier to take with you if you go on a trip or something.
@rjejr and here I was thinking you had christened me Magnum... ;)
But seriously, some more elaboration on the similarities would certainly interest me, so...

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#25

TheRealThanos commented on Editorial: Super Smash Bros. Should be Integra...:

@shani P.S. Don't let it being "inferior" to the Wii U hold you back. If you have the money, I can definitely recommend the 3DS to any avid gamer. There are many great games and some awesome conversions (such as Smash Bros or Street Fighter), that rival the console versions, albeit with lesser graphics. But honestly, after a few minutes of actually playing them you won't even notice anymore, so maybe you should try it out before forming a decisive opinion on skipping this awesome handheld.
I wasn't an early adopter either, but I'm truly glad that I did decide to buy one in the end. I'm sure a lot of other people on here are more than willing to share their positive experiences with the 3DS with you, which may help you make a decision that works for you. I would also be more than happy to answer any questions you might have about it.

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#26

TheRealThanos commented on Editorial: Super Smash Bros. Should be Integra...:

@shani Well, I don't know if "everyone" is assuming this. A hybrid device would be something that incorporates a handheld as well as a home console (obviously) and that is not at all what the info that we do have (and Mr. Iwata's comment) points to. It is the exact opposite of an architecture that makes a home console and handheld "like brothers". That would be more like mother and child, the latter being the handheld and the connecting device for the TV (docking station?) being the mother.
Nope, I'm sticking with the scalable architecture until more concrete evidence to the contrary arrives.
If it does, I'm a big enough man to acknowledge that I was wrong. But until then, that's the idea that I'm going for.

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#28

TheRealThanos commented on Editorial: Super Smash Bros. Should be Integra...:

@westman98 At first I thought it was going to be a hybrid too, with some kind of docking station to play at home, but after that exact quote from mr. Iwata I got around to your way of thinking, so I'm placing my bets on a scalable architecture now, until news arrives that shows me that I'm wrong... ;)

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#29

TheRealThanos commented on Editorial: Super Smash Bros. Should be Integra...:

@westman98 I agree, but for some games it will certainly be nice that you could pick up your handheld and continue where you left of when you were playing at home. A great concept for the holidays and so on.
@shani I don't think it will be a hybrid and I do indeed think that a lot of people are misinterpreting the little bit of info that has been given/leaked.
Mr. Iwata literally said that because of the new environment, the two (handheld and console) would be very much like brothers:

"It of course does not mean that we are going to use exactly the same architecture as Wii U, but we are going to create a system that can absorb the Wii U architecture adequately. When this happens, home consoles and handheld devices will no longer be completely different, and they will become like brothers in a family of systems."

That sounds more like westman98's idea.
Here is the entire list of things we know about NX, along with some interesting theories on the what when and how.
https://nintendonx.wordpress.com/category/nintendo-quotes/
It is also where I got the quote from, although that interview with Mr. Iwata can also be found here on NLife and on just about every game and news site out there...
@rjejr How do you connect news of the Ouya's take over by Razer with Nintendo rumors? Because of the Android thing?

TheRealThanos

#30

TheRealThanos commented on Editorial: Super Smash Bros. Should be Integra...:

@westman98 Interesting idea. Would make for easy scaling too, so besides a downgrade in graphics, you would be able to have the same experience on the handheld and on the home console. Most engines and tools are scalable too nowadays, so if the NX architecture is developer-friendly then we might just see a completely different situation emerging for Nintendo...

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#32

TheRealThanos commented on Playtonic Happy to Move Away From "Box-Ticking...:

@dumedum Although the missing games are obviously something that should have been a part of a 30 years/best of collection, I tend to disagree. Donkey Kong 64 was a good game, but both Banjo Kazooie games, Jet Force Gemini and Conker’s Bad Fur Day were far better games in the same genre.
As for the DK SNES trilogy, that is the only true missed opportunity, but I would definitely not see that as "the heart missing" since that would equate to Rare's work being centered around Donkey Kong and that obviously isn't the case. Rare isn't Donkey Kong; they are so much more.
Their heart already started when they were still called Ultimate Play the Game when there wasn't any Donkey Kong game in sight, and from that period on, there are a lot of games that have defined them, the DK SNES trilogy is only a VERY small part of that, even though that did an excellent job of solidifying their reputation in the eyes of Nintendo, so it that aspect it was an important set of games.
I personally also regret that Star Fox Adventures is not included, but Kameo is a very good replacement for that, and for some of us, Grabbed by the Ghoulies is also a decent one.
And they did say that they wanted to make this collection represent the history of Rare, so they had to make it an all encompassing story, from their humble beginnings at Ultimate Play the Game up till now, and other than the few missing Nintendo IP's I think they have done quite a good job.
Besides the missing games, all of my other favorites are in there, such as most of the N64 games, RC Pro AM 1 & 2, Killer Instinct, Kameo, Sabre Wulf, Battletoads, Cobra Triangle, Snake Rattle N Roll, Gunfright and Slalom, so I would be quite the happy camper with this collection in my possession. IF I had an Xbox One, that is, but my current situation unfortunately doesn't allow for the purchase of another game console...

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#33

TheRealThanos commented on Nintendo Quality Of Life Patent Applications A...:

@mateq I wonder if that really works all the time. What if you went to bed really late? You can't be rested after only a few hours of sleep. It happens to me sometimes, either because of going for drinks after work or just staying up late because there's some movie or series that I like on TV, but the next day I'm anything but fit when the day is done. The way it was described also prompted my previous reaction. To me it came across as "the device decides when it's time to wake you up" instead of you just being able to set the alarm as on a normal clock.

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#35

TheRealThanos commented on Weirdness: Here's What An All-Human Star Fox T...:

@6ch6ris6 Guess you missed out on a couple of truly great games then. Perhaps you should try to keep an open mind instead of being prejudiced and give one or two games in the series a try. Who knows, it might even grow on you. And you hardly get to see the animals since you'll be flying all the time, so you'll be looking at fighter planes for 95 percent of the time. You'll mainly see the animals in the intro and in a small communication window in the bottom of your TV screen, other than that, it plays just like a "normal" third person space fighter/on-rails shooter game.

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#36

TheRealThanos commented on Nintendo Quality Of Life Patent Applications A...:

"A possible glimpse of Nintendo NX?"
Oh, please, no. This won't do, this won't do AT ALL.
Okay, I've calmed down now and realize that these patents don't have to mean anything at all...
Besides: all these patents do indeed point to QoL, since each patent mentions health related information an so on. and that in my humble opinion has nothing to do whatsoever with the NX, since that is supposed to be a dedicated gaming platform.
As far as this concept here is concerned: I guess Nintendo wants our bodies to be ready...
@mateq Well, I sure hope it will wake me up in time to go to work, then. If it only wakes me up when it thinks I should, that might occasionally mean a few hours too late... ;)

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#38

TheRealThanos commented on Donkey Kong Nearly Missed Out On Pixels Stardom:

@Platypus101 This movie is not based upon an episode of Futurama, but on an internet short film with the exact same name. You can find it on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEEps8QA__o

EDIT:

Some proof...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixels_%282015_film%29
http://www.themarysue.com/short-film-pixels-was-based-on/
http://www.slashfilm.com/pixels-short-film/
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/watch-adam-sandler-video-game-movie-pixels-gets-fi/1100-6425982/

Obviously you can choose to believe otherwise, but that doesn't change any of the facts.

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#40

TheRealThanos commented on Exclusive: Project CARS "Simply Too Much For W...:

@GreatPlayer It's not that they didn't promise a Wii U version (they did, actually) what I meant to correct is the mistake that a lot of people in this thread think that you could donate money towards a Wii U version, which definitely isn't true. The game started out PC only and after some time they got a lot of feedback and questions on the forum that made them consider console versions, and so in the end they announced them.
First for the Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii U, and after a year or so those first two consoles got canned and they transferred these versions over to the Xbox One and PS4, but the Wii U version was still a possibility. That all changed after the PC community and beta testers wanted even more out of the game and they upgraded the physics and tire model to a point where they could still run it on Xbox One and PS4, only with downgraded graphics (check out the YouTube comparison video that I linked to, if you haven't already) but the Wii U just couldn't handle this upgraded version of the game, hence the final verdict of a non-appearance on the Wii U.
They seem to be thinking that there is a very real chance of this game appearing on NX, because they mention it every time they get the opportunity...

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#41

TheRealThanos commented on Exclusive: Project CARS "Simply Too Much For W...:

@Captain_Toad Yeah, their attitude certainly isn't going to win them any prices. Although I would like to change "their" to Ian Bell, the Head of Studio. He more or less silenced Andy Tudor (who has been nothing but kind and decent) and now all communication is done by him.
I still appreciate Bell for having the guts to keep communicating with people in the forums, but his method of communicating needs some fine tuning here and there. And explicitly saying he doesn't like Nintendo fans definitely isn't helping things along either.
Oh, well...

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#42

TheRealThanos commented on Exclusive: Project CARS "Simply Too Much For W...:

Not to start another chapter of flaming underneath this article, but some misconceptions need to be addressed:
This game was NEVER on kickstarter: they had their own crowd funding on their own site and you could subscribe to stay up to date. It has always been made VERY clear that the first backers were going to be the play testers of the beta versions, that you could download once you had paid/subscribed. Since they must have read the small print, they must have known that they were only backing a PC version. The beta version is kind of a dead giveaway as well.
The developers weren't lying about the Wii U version running pretty good and they also haven't backpedaled:
The initial version did perform more than adequate on the Wii U, but during 2014 they decided to upgrade the physics engine and tire model, based upon the feedback they got from the community of beta testers, that wanted even more realism and better, or rather: more precise handling.
It was the older version that ran just fine and which Andy Tudor was so enthusiastic about. The new physics engine and tire model is WAY above what the Wii U can handle and the differences are, from what I read in the Project CARS forums, pretty significant and they didn't want to release two entirely different versions of the game. It wasn't just a matter of downgraded graphics and options; it's an entirely different experience and that was what made them decide to can the older version and go with the new model instead. They didn't want to make any sacrifices to car handling and other physics that were now already implemented in the newer beta version.
If you look at comparisons of the console and PC versions, you can already see the changes they had to make in the cosmetic department and in let's plays all over YouTube the differences in performance are also explained.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZfCkRvhkg0
Seeing the other two consoles still struggle at times with the downgraded version of the newer engine, makes it quite clear that a platform that is weaker than those two would never be able to give gamers the same experience.
I fully agree that the way they went about it is anything but pretty, what with all the silent treatment Wii U owners got, but backers that had kept themselves informed all through the developments could have known that they were just backing a PC version; only later on did they announce console versions.
The Xbox 360 and PS3 versions were the first to be dropped, due to them not even being able to run the old engine well enough. The Wii U did, but ultimately the transfer to the considerably more demanding physics engine and tire model did them in.
Quoted from the official forum where someone asked if it would be possible to revert the Wii U version back to the old tire model:

"Is it too late or too complicated to revert to the BTM? I was already told by a WMD member at one point that the Wii U version might not share the STM with the other versions, that it might use the BTM instead. I applaud your commitment to equal physics across versions, but if cutting down the graphics isn't enough, a game with the BTM is better than no game at all, right? I still play and enjoy racing sims from yesteryear that lack the details of the STM, and I'm a stickler for physics.
It wouldn't help. Our tyre model is saturating the WiiU's full compliment of CPU. There's not much left for anything else."

FYI: BTM stands for Brush Tire Model and STM stands for Seta Tire Model, a highly advanced simulation of tire and suspension movement.
For those of you that want to know more:
http://www.wmdportal.com/projectnews/inside-project-cars-seta-tire-model/
Well, maybe NX will be what they are looking for to put their game on, maybe for a Director's Cut, or maybe we will just skip the first game and go straight to the second one that they have now started developing...
Let's just not virtually kill each other over something as trivial as a computer game, okay fellow NLifers?

TheRealThanos

#44

TheRealThanos commented on Playtonic Happy to Move Away From "Box-Ticking...:

@rjejr TheRealThanos PI at your service... ;)
I have played most of the games on that list and if your taste in games is anything like mine, then you'll like most of them. You could of course always find some videos of the games you don't know on YouTube. I assume you will at the very least be familiar with the N64 games on there. (?)
You know what? I'll save you the trouble as a birthday gift:
Rare Replay E3 Announce Trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaieVt3M72c
Rare Replay Isn't Just a Bunch of Ports - IGN Plays - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww5fAnZ3pkY
@aaronsullivan I have no idea about how or what, but I did play the Xbox 360 versions of the updated N64 Banjo Kazooie and Perfect Dark games, and they ran like clockwork

TheRealThanos

#45

TheRealThanos commented on Playtonic Happy to Move Away From "Box-Ticking...:

@Cyberbotv2 Right now it's more a question of what I'm able to buy, not so much about what I'm into. Unfortunately my money needs to go to some more pressing matters for the time being, so I'm afraid a new console purchase is on the absolute bottom of the list...
But hypothetically speaking I would go for the Gears of War bundle then. I may be an American, but having lived and worked in Europe for so long has made me appreciate the other type of football more, although I was more of a basketball/baseball type of guy, so I was never that much into American Football to begin with.

TheRealThanos

#47

TheRealThanos commented on Playtonic Happy to Move Away From "Box-Ticking...:

@dumedum Ah yes, my bad. But that one is also missing for obvious reasons. And actually, if you read the quote from Nick Burton, then the total list of games amounts to 120 titles, so there's quite a few more missing on this disc... ;)
But do you feel that the missing games make this an unworthy compilation? There are quite a few good titles on it, most of which are fan favorites as well.
If I had an Xbox One I'd probably buy it...

TheRealThanos

#48

TheRealThanos commented on Playtonic Happy to Move Away From "Box-Ticking...:

@dumedum I wanted to know so instead of waiting for your answer I looked it up and I see what you mean now: the games that are missing are the SNES Donkey Kong trilogy, Donkey Kong 64, Goldeneye 007, Mickey's Speedway USA and Star Fox Adventures. Donkey Kong is missing for obvious reasons as is Star Fox Adventures, but why the others aren't on there, I don't know.
The games that are included are:

  • Jetpac
  • Atic Atac
  • Lunar Jetman
  • Sabre Wulf
  • Underwurlde
  • Knight Lore
  • Gunfright
  • Slalom
  • R.C. Pro-Am
  • Battletoads (NES)
  • Cobra Triangle
  • Snake Rattle N Roll
  • Digger T. Rock
  • Solar Jetman
  • R.C. Pro-Am II
  • Battletoads Arcade
  • Killer Instinct Gold
  • Blast Corps
  • Banjo-Kazooie
  • Jet Force Gemini
  • Perfect Dark
  • Banjo-Tooie
  • Conker’s Bad Fur Day
  • Grabbed by the Ghoulies
  • Perfect Dark Zero
  • Kameo: Elements of Power
  • Viva Piñata
  • Jetpac Refuelled
  • Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
  • Viva Piñata: Trouble in Paradise

Seems like a great list to me, so still very much worth anyone's time and money, in my humble opinion.

EDIT:

This is what Nick Burton from Rare had to say about the reasons for GoldenEye's absence:

Talking to Polygon, Technology Development Lead Nick Burton dismissed speculation that the absence was down to Nintendo’s insistence that it shouldn’t appear on non-Nintendo consoles after the debacle with the attempted 2008 remake for XBLA.

Instead, he said that the selection was about choosing titles that were solely created by the studio. “We looked at 120 games in our back catalog, put them all up on a big whiteboard, and we sort of started grading them, right? When you’ve got so many games, there are going to be certain [factors] like who owns what,but when you’ve got that many, you choose the ones that fit the best.”

When asked if getting embroiled in licensing battles influenced their choices, Burton replied “It wasn’t necessarily licensing. Going back to the criteria — ‘is it Rare characters, is it Rare worlds?’ — GoldenEye doesn’t really fit tightly in with that particular boundary that we put on there…I feel that we got a great catalog to choose from.”

TheRealThanos

#49

TheRealThanos commented on Playtonic Happy to Move Away From "Box-Ticking...:

@MikeW Thanks!
@rjejr Well, a happy birthday to you, sir. I wish you many more, in good health and if possible still enjoying games as much as you do today.
@dumedum I didn't know that. I haven't seen any complete list of what games are on there. I only saw it fly by at the E3, and it mildly peaked my interest, so I remembered it. Other than that I haven't really looked into it, but I had the idea that most games were on there. Which ones are missing, or better yet: which ones are you missing?