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#1

ShadyKnights commented on Watch Dogs Wii U Release Dates Confirmed:

Okay I'm putting aside my annoyance for this game being delayed for half a year. Okay. There. It's over there, I'm over here. I will not get this game because it is a bad game. Period. I do not willingly purchase bad game unless they are dirt cheap and/or have a particular quality, game play or story, that I really want to experience no matter what.

I've seen the story of W_D and no. I will not spend money on that. I've seen the game play and it is not what I was promised or what I hoped for. I've read reviews of many talking about how clunky this or that in the game was, and seen videos proving the flaws and problems in the game.

I don't think we should just support third party just to support it, nor do I think we should boycott it when it's late because that's not going to help much either. What needs to be done is we buy games we feel that are worth a damn. We spend our money on quality products and make it known that that is the reason why we didn't buy this or that third party exclusive. Not because it wasn't Nintendo, but because it's crap. And we should speak out louder and loudest about that reason because that is the real reason any gamer plays games, to have fun. If it's not fun, we don't buy it. Maybe if they started seriously gearing their games to Nintendo fans, they'd sell more. Rather than make excuses and show numbers with just their explanations of why things didn't work. What kind of nonsense is it someone tells you why you buy or do something, or what you buy and do? Don't you know why you do or buy what you do? Shouldn't you be the one telling them that?

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#2

ShadyKnights commented on Project CARS Wii U Delay Was To Ensure It's As...:

@Action51
I hate that "just be grateful" mentality. That's like giving up one's rights as a consumer and not even asking for or demanding better content.

I agree with you though. Honestly I was annoyed that the game was pushed back, but since it would be hypocritical of me to treat them like other devs when they haven't showed the game yet I decided I would still give the game a shot. I'll be far less forgiving for any flaw I find in it since I have to wait for my preferred version of the game, but I'll wait and see what they do. However I don't think it unreasonable to demand some visuals for it after the other versions drop just so we can all know that they're actually making improvements and not just blowing smoke.

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#3

ShadyKnights commented on Project CARS Wii U Delay Was To Ensure It's As...:

@Punished_Boss
lol Okay so I did a little research and found out that Just Dance 2014 was actually released (NA) on the PS3, 360, Wii, and Wii U on Oct 1, 2013; PS4 Nov 15, XBOne Nov 22. However PS4 and XBOne versions launched the day the consoles launched. Apparently JD2015 is being released on the same day.

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#4

ShadyKnights commented on Project CARS Wii U Delay Was To Ensure It's As...:

@Punished_Boss
Ah, okay I see what you mean. But the majority of the late PS3 ports were never announced to be coming to the PS3 at the same time they were announced for the 360 before they made their way to the PS3. ME1 was an 360 exclusive and not open for PS3 port for ages. Same with Bioshock. ME2 wasn't even announced that it was coming to PS3 until 7 months after it was released for the PS3 so I can't really agree with the equivalency here. What many complaining about the Wii U delays are upset about is this was announced at the same time then delayed by itself. I feel that is just as wrong to do with the 360 version of Titan Fall as I do with Watch_Dogs and Project Cars with Wii U. If you announce it at the same time, I feel it is only proper to release them at the same time, or at least within a verified time frame so as not to be disrespectful to the backers and new fans who are waiting for the game on their preferred console.

I think these examples are like how PS4 and XBOne get games and Wii U fans ask for them on the Wii U, but don't get them, while PS3 fans did. But the PS3 did get crappy ports in the beginning like the Orange Box so maybe there is hope.

However I don't think it is acceptable to feel just because this delay crap happened once that we should accept it as the standard. Companies job is to earn our money and no matter what one's console preference, I think we should make them work a little harder to get our cash.

ShadyKnights

#5

ShadyKnights commented on Project CARS Wii U Delay Was To Ensure It's As...:

@Punished_Boss
Um not to be a donkeyhat good sir, but exactly which games that were supposed to come out on the Wii U, PS4, and XBOne have been delayed for any other console other than the Wii U? And if you don't mean these three, which multiplatform games are you speaking of that got this treatment in any other generation when two other consoles were getting the same game?

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#6

ShadyKnights commented on Project CARS Wii U Delay Was To Ensure It's As...:

@electrolite77

As I said in the accompanying paragraph to that point, that is ignorant business sense. The wise thing to do is to look at the market that is there and grow them. Jumping on the popular band wagon is a common business practice, but that doesn't make it smart, nor does it mean as a consumer we should support it.

Generally it's easier to get lost among the flood of others when there is a wave of similar content saturating the market (i.e. How Beyond Good and Evil was so easily overlooked when released next to PoP Sands of Time) and forgotten than to stick out and be remembered (i.e. How people still say nice things about Zombi U even though its quality is spotty in places and its content lacking). Bandwagon jumping may be beneficial if your game is noticed, but if it's swept under the rug of the other two racing games or is legit good, but equally legit not as good as its competition on said consoles, then it's a great way to waste money rather than make it.

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#7

ShadyKnights commented on Project CARS Wii U Delay Was To Ensure It's As...:

@kenzo
I think you may be generalizing too much when you say we cannot expect studios to be generous and that success breeds success. Success breeds imitators. Also while all three big consoles play games, it's actually very wrong to compare the Wii U to the PS4 and XBOne. You can compare the last two to each other because they are trying to game in the same way. The Wii U has been compared to the other two by the gaming media which is their error since the Wii U is attempting to game in different ways.

The Wii U not selling as fast as the other two is a symptom not a cause. A symptom of devs not putting effort into the games they release for it or making games for it. It's not called charity, it's called just doing their job. They don't want to develop for the Wii U? Fine. But when they decide to, I think it only fair that they treat its consumer base with the same respect they would XonySoft's. If the PS4's version was delayed because they "wanted to make sure it was as good as the other two" all hell would have broken loose on the internet, about how PS4 fans should never have to wait for a game being released on the XBOne and Wii U of all consoles months, if not a full year, earlier. That'd be unexceptionable. But because the Wii U is the less speech heavy console it's okay? Sorry, that's BS.

It's BS to get crappy ports and to be berated for not lavishing them with appreciation, it's BS to be given lazily done games and not being called ungrateful, it's BS to be told what we like when we have very clearly told them what we like, and it's BS that this has become acceptable. That the concept that Nintendo fans deserve less just because they enjoy a non popular console is acceptable is a sign the the gaming Media has failed it's purpose.

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#8

ShadyKnights commented on Project CARS Wii U Delay Was To Ensure It's As...:

I do wonder how these companies expect Nintendo fans to react when they do this stuff after they've seen how we always react when they do this stuff? I mean I don't think it is unreasonable to be upset that when the same game for three consoles is announced, it is delayed on one of the consoles without assurance that at least the price of the game will be equal to that of the other two when it is released.

All this BS about Wii U selling horribly compared to XBOne or PS4 is bunk when you just look at it like this. There are more consoles out for it than XBOne. The Wii U being out longer is really irrelevant to how fast the XBOne is selling as there are and will be more Wii Us in homes NOW. Not in 4 to 6 months, but now.

You go to Nintendo fan sites and see a community starving for legit 3rd party support, the smart business thing to do would be to capitalize on that. People can say this is business till they turn blue in the face, but wise business is to know your customers and to appeal to them. Instilling customer loyalty is something all business want, but the gaming companies seem to think that segregating their consumers and playing favorites will earn them brownie points or people will just accept it.

I know this is a long rant, but I feel Slightly Mad or Bandai Namco, whoever made this decision, made a very bad one. Nintendo fans (not just on this or strictly Nintendo fan site) were highly offended by Ubisoft handling Rayman Legend the way they did, and doubly so with Watch Dogs. An intelligent company would not have made that decision, and a smarter business move would have been to release them at the same time or the PC version alone and waited for the consoles. At least I feel that would have been smarter and would have pissed off far fewer people and ostracized fewer as well.

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#9

ShadyKnights commented on Sorry, Contrary to Rumours the New Nintendo 3D...:

While I personally don't care about region locking and respect those that do as my best friend really gets flustered about it, who was expecting this and why? I get that those who do want it really want it, but people you shouldn't delude yourself like that.

I mean I do think it'd be awesome if all consoles were region free and all that jazz, but I don't buy them for that, nor do I hold Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo to each others standards. I hold them up to their own individual standards and that's it, because I like them for what they themselves do. I don't get the argument that "Sony/Microsoft does it so Nintendo should too!" when the whole point of having a different console (to me) is to see what they do differently. The pros and cons ad flavor and make me appreciate what I do get on each of them. Just my few cents on the subject.

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#10

ShadyKnights commented on Poll: Tell Us What You Think of the New Ninten...:

I like it personally, but mostly due to the suspicion that I have that this is the link for Nintendos handheld to their home console. It has two circle pads, ZL and ZR, and better enough processor to make it smoother and more stable rather than to completely remove itself from the 3DS and to (hopefully) not have games created specifically for it. A link without a complete severing from what it originally is. After all, the additions are all things the Wii U has rather than something completely different. The only inclination of things it can do that it's predecessor cannot is play a Wii game.

My instincts tell me we'll be hearing about Wii U cross play on 3DS in Japan by the time this drops in the West.

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#11

ShadyKnights commented on Ubisoft's Latest UK Release Schedule Still Sho...:

Considering the lack luster reviews I've seen of the game, I'm confident the quality of the game would have hurt it more than anything else. And that was on PC and the other consoles! Heaven help this thing to be halfassesedly ported to the Wii U! And I say ported only because we've seen and heard nothing of their intentions or actions to the Wii U version as of yet and all their other ports to the Wii U are based on another version rather than a ground up build (with the very likely exception of Raymond Legend) so why would they change that now?

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#12

ShadyKnights commented on Miyamoto States That Nintendo Is Sticking With...:

@arnoldlayne83
I understand what you're saying from a marketing standpoint, but I believe that reaction would be too strongly kneejerky due to the change in gaming climate. Smartphoens and tablets may be a new gateway gaming drug, or a new way to game, but we still have consoles because we want experiences we can get only from a console. Be it any of the big three and whoever joins them. Consoles will always be worth it so long as there are experiences that can only be experienced on a console that is a compelling reason to get games on that console. To jump ship due to a new wave rather than seeing how this wave rocks the system would be premature I'd think.

+@Legromancer
As far as games released this fall... Okay? 4/5 games starting September for Wii U. That's one game a month for 3 months and two for 1 month. I don't know about you guys, but ShadyKnights aint got that much cash or time and it's nice to not have to pick and chose a game to get. I kinda already know what I'm going to get.

If the point you were making is that there are more new sexy games to choose from and therefore Wii U is overshadowed, well, I guess you're right yeah. I mean the media outlets will be deepthroating the shooty games and the driver games like no body's business. Oh and likely that Evil Within game that looks legit creepy and scary. Still, for those who don't want that, Nintendo stomps both of them with diversity. HW, Bay1+2, Sonic Boom, SSB4, Captain Toad, and Skylanders (checked the Nintendo website for upcoming releases since you two requested I do so.) all for the Wii U. Not counting the 3DS' line up so the company is fine really. And this is all if you're talking about what people who own a Wii U are gonna get. For those that don't have one, sweet Jesus do they have a backlog to entertain them with! You cannot say that for anyone picking up a PS4 or XBOne yet. They don't even have backwards compatibility and this fall through winter is kinda their money shot for the consoles as they've barely been out a full year and had sparse content in that year...kinda... like the... Wii U... Hm.... Weird how Activision said it's totally cool for Sony and Microsoft to have that problem but said nothing to defend Nintendo about that.. Ah oh well.

Anyway, yeah, this is actually the year to jump aboard the Nintendo train as the games are starting to finally flow. At least that how it looks from my perspective. I see PS4 and XBOne getting stronger content around late spring, maybe mid summer honestly.

ShadyKnights

#13

ShadyKnights commented on Miyamoto States That Nintendo Is Sticking With...:

@Legromancer
The Wii U launched November 17, 2012. We are nearing the completion of the second year and nearing the start of the third. And as I said in a post right after yours, gaming is a niche hobby and mass appeal games don't matter as much as they've been hyped to assume. Yes it's a great way to make money if the money they get for said games is greater than the money spent on making the games, but if Nintendo makes more from their small, but dedicated, crowd than say Ubi does from their WatchDog sales from all their consoles combined (Not saying they will, this is an example and Ubi popped in my mind while typing), then Nintendo does well.

No, I'm not some chump who thinks whatever game will save the Wii U, because I, in all my "delusion", don't buy into gaming hype or believe the Wii U needs saving. It need appreciation and it needs gaming journalists to actually do their job by actually informing the less informed masses about the pros and cons of the Wii U in a way that's actually as positive as the PS4 and XBOne are spun with theirs.

Gaming isn't about power, it's about imagination. And to the laymen, the Wii U can look close enough to the PS4 to not bug them as long as they're not thinking "Man I could be getting so much better graphics!" and just playing the game. Not saying the Wii U can output PS4 graphics by the way. I'm certain it cannot due to technical limitations, but I know PS3 and PS4 hardly look different right now. So, right now, the masses could enjoy all three with not much difference in fidelity to distract.

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#14

ShadyKnights commented on Miyamoto States That Nintendo Is Sticking With...:

@arnoldlayne83
It's far more likely that with this new gen of gamers being so focused and obsessed with how great games look with maximum performance and how cheep technology is getting, that Sony and Microsoft will have tougher troubles coming up with compelling consoles next generation that compete with PCs that will easily be able to out do both than Nintendo will.

And the performance gap is unimportant when compared to actual quality of games. People tend to forget that gaming is a niche hobby because certain types of games have become mainstream. But just like the metal heads who love metal and prefer listening to metal music, or bookworms that adore anything romantic, Nintendo style games are a breed of their own that their audience devours and that is very accessible for others to try and enjoy.

Just like the GameBoy was weak compared to other handhelds, it rocked the house because it could provide what others could not even with it's weaker screen. And gamers ate it up. And I don't think many, if any, games on those consoles were multiplats at all.

As far as the social and infrastructure stuff, updates. Plus Nintendo is working on doing things their own way which is a better means of survival rather than copying others. After all, good artists copy, great artists steal.

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#15

ShadyKnights commented on Miyamoto States That Nintendo Is Sticking With...:

@ Legromancer
The PS3 was considered DOA for roughly 3 years and followed the hit success of the PS2 for pretty much the same complaints for the Wii U, only their problems were kinda worse.

People complained about their controller. It had rumble feature removed and Sixaxis was felt to be gimmicky. The Gamepad actually has use, functionality, and legitimately changes the concept of many games when properly utilized, but can also be ignored without the player noticing or "feeling" much loss.

The price point was too damned high. Unlike the Wii U, which is significantly stronger than it's predecessor, more expensive than it (as they all tend to be for each console gen) and yet not at at a side splitting price point, the PS3 was considerably more expensive than the PS2 at all three price points and mostly due to a feature that was all but completely unnecessary for actually playing games, the BluRay player.

And for a time it was getting the worst ports, delayed games (FF Versus XIII being the most infamous of them), and was loosing exclusives left right and center.

With all that, once devs actually put forth effort into the PS3, made good games for it and utilized the hardware better, it bounced back like a champ. And that was at least in it's third year when it started really picking up steam. I don't see why the Wii U would be considered dead when there is essentially nothing wrong with the Wii U and it has bc that PS3 lacked for the most part and every other console this gen lacks until the consumers pay for it.

So long as effort is put into making great games, no console is ever dead. See first XBox, see PS3, see everyone trying to back pedal now that Wii U's line up is still the talk of the town rather than their tech specs lately.

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#17

ShadyKnights commented on Ubisoft Executive Talks Up Super Smash Bros. a...:

@Geonjaha
The last straw always looks silly because it's just one straw, but you have to look at the rest of the bundle on the back. You are looking at people's anger from the perspective of "Oh it's just one thing, chill out" when while they are complaining about this one thing, there is also a list of complains of other things as well, some of which I mentioned, that people have with the company that makes their comments feel inappropriate.

And while I get you're trying for an analogy here, you're incorrect. Firstly a company is not a person and should never be viewed as one. Secondly this isn't Ubisoft's friend saying something in appropriate, it's Ubisoft having an airhead moment and saying something risque in public that looks bad. The thing is, even if this was that guy's personal twitter, I'm willing to bet someone would have figured out that he was from Ubi and people would still be upset. Why? Cause he's apart of the company. He's not "just" one person and cannot be because of where he works. This is why I said, as someone who works in the industry, he should know better about keeping his mouth shut and how these comments look. Especially given the testy ground the company is on with Nintendo fans as of late.

Now for the positive statement the company officially made, as I said earlier, some people are tired of these opportunistic comments by people who want to look smart or knowledgeable or whatever. The real reason for Ubi commenting on Smash is to talk about their Just Dance and attach it to Smash hype. Common practice yes, but people are sick of it. Those who are happy and hype and salivating for Smash because they feel they know it's gonna be good don't want Ubisoft telling them this could make their preferred console worth something. That's insulting.

I can respect that is not what you see, but it is what some do see. Sure some people cannot take criticism over that, but that's a bigger minority than you think. I've read Ubi complain more about the issue with Wii U sale than Iwata, yet look at the XBOne sales and they got nothin to say about how The Halo collection is really going to move consoles and how Just Dance will help with that. That hypocrisy doesn't bug you a little?

And just as there are people who agree with Ubi's statement, there are those who genuinely do not. Doesn't make either side wrong really. But I do think the focus on the Wii U "surviving" or "doing better" after Smash is childish and misplaced. We own consoles to enjoy the games on them. So long as the games are there, and they are being enjoyed, that's really all that matters. And from the various places I looked, Ubi has been doing more damage to itself by talking than by not just shutting up. I can't really fault the fans for that as many of them plainly say "SHUT UP UBISOFT!" yet they ignore them. I can't really call being ignored when you tell someone to leave you alone as being unjustifiably upset.

ShadyKnights

#18

ShadyKnights commented on Ubisoft Executive Talks Up Super Smash Bros. a...:

@Geonjaha
Well I dunno about the last couple of articles, but Ubi has done much over the past few console generations to sour my taste towards them.

I hated PoP Warrior Within, and while Two Thrones did oh so very much to fix those problems, I never forgot the taste that left in my mouth.

I loved Beyond Good and Evil, but the ending was sequel baited and regardless of many late comers to the game clambering for more, the PS2 went and PS3 came and went with only a teaser for BGE to rile fans up only for them to be "lol Nope sorry guys no game".

Prince of Persia (2008) came out, was a great game, excellent turn on the series and sequel baited to hell, and because of knee jerk reactions from fans who ignorantly expected Sands of Time mechanics when they actually promised a divergence of that, they dropped the series. This was a time to stand up and calmly remind people of what was promised and delivered for the fans who loved this game and its style, but instead, like whipped dogs, they cowered back to the SoT series for another PoP game and canceled the new series they started.

They spend four Assassin's Creed games training me, getting me used to these button configs, getting me engrossed in Desmond's story, then change it all to Arkham mechanics that work like booty cheddar in this series, and a conclusion to Desmond's story that is as insulting as it is stupid. Four games for a crappy conclusion that makes no sense, had stupidly concluded plot points with characters, and spat in my face as a big Desmond fan who just wanted to see him be as awesome as Ezio and Altiar, and as someone who wanted to play as a modern day Assassin.

Got me excited for Raman Legends and ready to wholly support it because it was an exclusive, then held back on the game so they could port it to other consoles that people may already own and had the nerve to point to Nintendo fans as the cause for it not selling on the Wii U. No, I didn't get it, but that was because they promised me one thing, then reneged on that promise. I tend to take being lied to mildly personally. And my cousin, like me, got her Wii U day one and (unlike me) didn't open the box until she got Rayman Legends for Christmas last year. She got the damned console for one game and Ubi didn't have enough consideration for her or likeminded fans to just give it.

Then they have the nerve to complain about how not well their mature games are doing on Nintendo consoles when it's fairly well known that their Wii U ports have been lack luster and Nintendo fans tend to avoid such games. But in their eyes, Nintendo fans should buy them anyway just because they're putting something out there. But really, how is that good enough? How is it reasonable for Ubisoft to provide less content, less quality, less effort in their games for Nintendo fans, then demand more loyalty from them when we all see they don't do that with Sony or Microsoft fans.

After the Raymon Legend debacle, they delayed the Wii U version of Watchdogs so they could put more work into the other versions of the game. A complete inverse of what they did with RL. Suddenly, it's unthinkable to make consumers wait for a highly anticipated game and Wii U fans will have to just deal if they want to play it on their Wii Us. Just wait be grateful when you get it. Likely they won't since, all around, the game's been proven to be far less than expected or promised so when that doesn't sell well, they'll just complain again that it's Nintendo fans fault.

And after their lazy eyed support, that many want to defend as solid, serious support of Nintendo fans third party games, Ubisoft tells them that they clearly don't want M rated games, but Just Dance is doing well so that's good enough for them. Now this is all based on the assumption that Bayonetta 2 will not sell well because Ubi cannot fathom a game that did as lackluster as that one on the "serious gamers consoles" to beat their offerings on the Wii U. Not because they feel the games quality will sell it, but because they feel what they offered was more and therefore better even though it's almost a mantra from Nintendo fans at this point that quality content beats quantity.

Then the holding hostage of Ubisoft games until more Wii Us are sold like nonexistent games are a reason to purchase a console over games that are out. Hell the concept of spending dev dollars on making one game, let alone five, that you are confident in will sell excellently and not pushing it on a console where the base is ravenous for excellent content is remarkably stupid from a logical or business standpoint. Until money is made for those games they just wasted both time and lots of money.

Then the Twitter incident, which I take as an accidental use of company Twitter when they meant to use their own, but still. It's stupid as hell to complain about free DLC that you have not seen in motion yet. Being skeptical is perfectly fine, but to talk about magic being weakened? From Ubisoft? The company that only bothered with quick ports for good games for Wii U. But I guess that doesn't diminish the magic of those games. The company that held back on an announced exclusive so it could become a multiplat. But I guess that too doesn't diminish the magic of that game either. The company that held off one version of a game so that all others could get attention, and we all see that the game did not even have the nerve to live up to the hype or even the promises of that game for all the extra work and effort put into it after halting work on the Wii U version. But I guess not even that diminishes the magic of that game.

It's called being respectful man. They have been very disrespectful to Nintendo fans for a while now and some people take offense to that. I don't really see what the issue is for people feeling this upset when they have had nearly the entirety of "gaming journalism" telling them they were stupid, childish, casual gamers for getting the Wii U and that no games were coming out for it for nearly two years, and when popular Nintendo games start dropping, suddenly it's all "Well this could be what helps the Wii U!" "It could come back after this game!" as if they're some great prophet and its okay to like Nintendo now after their E3 mud stomped everyone.

A lot of fans just want the other companies to shut up now because they're tired of the two-faced comments or safe comments meant to make them look good no matter what happens. If they don't think the Wii U is cool, fine, shut up and keep it to themselves cause plenty of people think it is, and others would too if they actually heard truthful info about it. Don't like how they're doing this game, fine, shut up cause many think it's cool. Hell you have to be especially careful when you are in the industry because you're speaking to your peers and you should know better than anyone how things can look one way from the outside in, but can actually be the complete opposite.

TLDR;
These last two issues with Ubisoft were probably the straw that broke many people's back with them. The company has been around for some time and has given many fans a reason to stack up marks against them so we're probably seeing the result of that.

ShadyKnights

#20

ShadyKnights commented on Somebody At Ubisoft Really Doesn't Like Mario ...:

@Oaf7724
I do see your point and am not saying you're wrong, but I think we need to remember Nintendo has fairly limited staff when comparing their development studio to the likes of Ubi, EA and so on. Their focus is more about getting more games out rather than working on just one, and to do that you need more staff on others than on this one. So that likely stalled the DLC you and I would likely more want, but I think this fall onwards will make up for that. I can take one more dry spell if it's the beginning of a great steady flow of games soon.

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#21

ShadyKnights commented on Somebody At Ubisoft Really Doesn't Like Mario ...:

Ubisoft's support has been release a base level game that while okay could be awesome had more effort had been put into it, gimp a multiplat and release DLC for it late, deliver two quick and dirty ports of multiplats, delay an exclusive so it can be a multiplat, delay a multiplat long after the competition gets the games, make five games and not release them, insult the entire Nintendo fan base by telling them what they want to play rather than listening to them, and one of their employees is talking about Nintendo's slippery slope?

Heck his company can't even work on one game without involving more than one studio.

For the people complaining that the magic is tainted and that it's icky poo advertisement in your sterile game. Well guys, it's DLC that's paying for something for the game be it more tracks (I dearly hope cause I love the game and want moar tracks to goof off on) future DLC, or general update bug fixing and so on that most other DLC wants the consumer to pay for. And in return you get to recklessly drive Mario and crew around in fancy cars. Sure it's cool if it's not your cup of tea, but it doesn't ruin the magic. It just doesn't appeal to your aesthetic preferences which is cool and understandable, but for others it's just plain funny and amusing okay so long as it's not advertisement that the consumers need to pay for. It's no different than you not liking some of the kart designs already in the game.

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#22

ShadyKnights commented on Talking Point: A History of the Sexualisation ...:

Samus is not sexualized. People really need to learn the difference between a sexualized form and the idealized form. Samus is an idealized form of the female figure. Yeah she wears skimpy and attractive wear under her suit but what does that matter? She is not bending over, jiggling her goodies or posing provocatively, she's doing her thing. Kicking butt. I personally find it more disgusting that anyone would say she cannot kick butt while looking however she wants to or that a mature adult cannot be as provocative as he or she wishes to be just because it makes you feel bad when they're not hurting anyone. That's just as bad as saying goths and punks are hurting society by dressing and thinking differently than the social norms. Or that gays are bad because being heterosexual is more common than not. Stuffing your own feelings down their throats is more insulting than someone just showing what they look like. When you go out fighting space pirates, or come home from doing the same, I feel you can wear whatever you want to fight/chill in.

Also Japan is way more okay with their female designs being skimpy, exaggerated, and what not than the west so just deal with it. Don't like it don't look. Don't be some snobbish douche desperately trying to force the world and everyone in it to appeal to your sensibilities and preferences. That's a childish mentality to have.

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#23

ShadyKnights commented on Feature: HD Remasters That Would Be Perfect fo...:

How about no.

Look I enjoy old games, but the fun of them is playing them how they were played and appreciating their style for what it was and how they made things work back in the day. Everything doesn't need shiney pixels or a remastering just cause you had happy memories with it.

Instead of a remastering why not a reboot, or a remake? Take the premise and do something different or unique with it. I love Majora's Mask, but I'd be far happier doing more with Termina than retreading the same ground I know verbatim by now.

Granted, most of these games listed are at least 10 years old, but still, I feel remasters should be more of a side "Oh hey neat they're redoing that." than a "OH MY GOD THEY'RE REMASTERING THIS I NEED TO BUY NNNNNNGH!!!!!" kinda thing.

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#24

ShadyKnights commented on The Hyrule Warriors Artbook Catches The Eye Wi...:

...Um..Guys that's clearly Zelda in a Link costume. Got the wrappings around the lower part of her bangs, hair length the same, face the same and everything.

I don't get how people got the whole "Link looks feminine" nonsense from E3 anyway since he always looked like a guy to me. Maybe cause I read way too much manga or watch too much anime, but Wii U Link looks distinctly late teen guy to me. Regardless, that ain't Link and just cause there's a female in the famous green tunic doesn't mean that's a Link at all. Unless Bayonetta is now retroactively Link thanks to the new costume.

lol This is why Nintendo enjoies trolling their fans, many of us jump to superfluous conclusions at the slightest hint of information.

ShadyKnights

#25

ShadyKnights commented on Nintendo's At It Again With Another Majora's M...:

@crzysortagamer

I'm with you. I love MM and it is my fav Zelda game to day, but because of that I would adore another game like it or in Termina at a later date. Especially with the Fierce Diety mask being something more ominous that goes more with it's description we're given in the game. Heck maybe we could follow the Link of Termina's adventure or somethin fun.

I'd be delighted to see MM added on as a bonus thing like Bayonetta, but it wouldn't be necessary. More fun and meaningful side quests and timed adventure would easily sell me.

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#26

ShadyKnights commented on British Tabloid The Sun Brands Gaming "As Addi...:

Well I wouldn't say that's entirely untrue, though the labeling could use some work. I dunno about you all, but I've spent tons of time on my Nintendo games than pretty much anything ever. And I've heard of people clocking in upwards of 300 hours on MK8 since it's launch.

But in all seriousness, It's kinda sad that people who either never picked up a game or seriously put effort into trying to play one once they found the controller or keyboard and mouse too cumbersome to use in a game, immediately want to write games off as something awful and bad just because they can't, don't, or won't understand it.

I do, again serious this time, love how they just slap the Gameboy image on that and equal it to drugs though. My teen and childhood self would probably be very interested in drugs if I were told they were as good as my Gameboy color... Hmm I should probably get it off my book shelf, dust it off, and pop in Pokemon Yellow... I've been feeling a lil down lately and could use a fix.

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#27

ShadyKnights commented on Kotaku Says YES to the Wii U - Rejoicing Begins:

@k8sMum
Well the majority of what my wall of text is about is gaming journalism in general rather than Kotaku. I've heard and read the statements I speak of from many sources and have stated as such.

The other part of my statement comes from my personal feelings on them or anyone suddenly having a a divine revelation of the quality of the Wii U, not just Kotaku.

So it's not really Kotaku's attitude specifically I speak about, so much as gaming journalists' attitude in general and how they pollute the minds of the uninformed for their own gain. I've never really liked that about any person or company who has done as much.

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#28

ShadyKnights commented on Kotaku Says YES to the Wii U - Rejoicing Begins:

Hm... Well okay I guess I'll toss in my dollar on the issue.

Okay, so on a base level, yes, this is awesome news to be happy about. People who purchased their Wii U, knowing what they were getting into have been beating the drum about how awesome the console has already been for some time now. The fact that a large and influential site like Kotaku said nice things about the Wii U is a positive sign that the hate train has been derailed. Even if there have to still be some back handed compliments, at least the overt and loud screaming of untruths now must cease lest their credibility be brought into question.

Now for me, personally, I don't care what Kotaku has to say about my Wii U anymore. After a little over a year and a half of blatant lies, doom and gloom, and arm chair analysts and the like talking about how Nintendo will be going under, how it is an underpowered piece of tech trash, how “overpriced” it is, how the gamepad should be dropped, how Nintendo should “get with it”, how the Wii U should be dropped for a “real console” and so on by nearly everyone who wanted to get attention for the most Nintendo hate, I’ve just written off gaming journalism as garbage not to be taken seriously anyway. The only reason I find positivity in IGN, Kotaku and others getting positive Nintendo news out is because now the average, uninformed gamer are getting something “closer” to an actual honest critique of the system. The reason I say this is, the average person never has had a reason to get a new console within its first couple of years to my 26 year old memory.

Yeah there are fun games occasionally tossed out there in the first year or so to please early adopters and draw buzz to the new console, but the real meat and potatoes for the longevity of a console comes later when a more steady stream of games release, or when you have an understanding of how the stream of games to be released will flow. This generally isn’t something you can just grasp by the first year, though the second generally tends to give you a better idea for how things are going to work from then on. Right now, Nintendo is looking like the Wii U will have a slow, but constant flow of high quality games throughout its years. This E3 also shows that Nintendo, as a company, is also looking to diversify its brand, reach into more genres, reach out to their fans more and include said fans into more of their goings on. Yet for all of that, mainstream gaming media have spent much of their time speaking on how Nintendo “doesn’t listen”, how they have “abandoned the hardcore gamers”, and other such nonsense when the Directs “I” have seen has been more about the company showing how it appreciates our understanding and are trying to deliver to us, early adopters, a more reasonable flow of high quality games when they are READY, and to the people on the fence or who don’t know much about Nintendo, they have been spreading information about what their plan is going forward.

These people have no interest in doing what a journalist are supposed to be doing, informing the general masses. They just like the attention and prestige from gaining said attention. They don’t seem to remember how the PS3 spent nearly half last generation floundering and loosing almost all its exclusives until the price dropped closer to the range of reasonable for the average consumer, or the negative backlash for not all of their consoles being backwards compatible. They don’t seem to like to recall, mention, or discuss how the Wii U having backwards compatibility may actually improve the value of the Wii U considering it’s the only console with that feature intact and not even for a premium price as it was available to regular and deluxe Wii Us. No one wants to talk about how the gamepad legitimately changes the style of play in a positive way out of the box versus the touch pad or Kinect. None of them speak on how versus the XBOne and PS4 allowing gamers to pause their play when TV is in use, the Wii U is all about playing longer TV in use or not.

Yes Nintendo could do with advertising for themselves a little more, but darn it why report that you give gaming news if your “news” is, at best, ridiculous misinformation from a sketchy source or, at worst, deliberate lies from known fallacious sources. The middle ground being stating the features of the Wii U with a particularly negative tone such as “The game pad is neat and innovative, but seriously that battery is unacceptable!” or “Yeah you can add up to a 3TB external hard drive to the Wii U, but 32GB just is not enough memory to start with!" in order to belittle the console in every way. That isn’t spreading news, it’s spreading hate. And now that Nintendo pretty much blew everyone out of the water, suddenly these once serious problems and glaring flaws are now just little things to be ignored because the games are coming and now they don’t want to look like fools for telling people to not get it.

The Wii U was always a good buy. If it doesn’t have the games you want now, unless you’re hoping for a sexy bundle skin with the release of the game you want, then getting it now means you’re not blowing 300+ bucks later on the console and the games you want all at once. The concept that “It doesn’t have what I want now, I’ll get it when it does” is stupid to me when you’re talking about a first or second party game from Nintendo that they announced. You know those games are coming. Plus you get time to get familiar with the console, check out the features, and try a game or two that you otherwise wouldn’t have tried once the steady flow of games you actually know you want to play are out. Who hasn’t wished they picked up a game that they later found to be amazing sooner because they were blinded by what they were comfortable with?

The time for Kotaku to admit the Wii U is a good buy is past because everyone can see that now. Now they’re just verifying what people already know and saving face by the old admit-what-you-said-and-shine-your complaints-in-a-positive-light back step shuffle. Similar to Microsoft talking about how they listen to gamers and will only talk about games this E3 after insulting them all of E3 last year, or Sony saying you can share your games at the end of E3 press conference last year only to later that week say that they were only talking about first party games and third party devs can do what they want.

It’s amusing to see everyone try to jump on the Nintendo band wagon, but I remember things done and said too well to be… happy (?) that these people who were last year talking about how kiddie Nintendo games and gamers are, are now proudly wearing and waving Mario hats this year. That’s like punching my brother in the face then showing up at the family reunion talking about how you two are such good friends. I take moderate offense to that and find every word you say rather suspect. But hey, that’s just me.

ShadyKnights

#29

ShadyKnights commented on Poll: What Did You Think of Nintendo's E3?:

@Kirk
Man if you’re responding to what I said, it’s in poor taste to do so by editing the response I am responding to. The first sentence and your link on comment #251 were the only things in your comment until after I responded to you.

Owning or not owning a product does affect your objective stance on any matter. Being objective does. Owning it merely grans one perspective in the matter. If a person is going to be bitter about something, or won’t give it a chance, then they themselves are actually not objective. Objective people try new things and make up their minds on the experience based on the perspective they now have. Objective people also do not look at something based on what they want, but what is there, and judge it by that. To judge the Wii U based on the XBOne or PS4 is improper. You judge it based on the Wii. You determine if it is a good console on its own merits, based on the improvements it has on its predecessor. It having what you want is only a concern if you buy it. If not, and you know they’re not going to give you want you want, why constantly complain about it? All you’re doing at that point is wasting people’s time and annoying many in the process just so you can feel good about whining. Not saying that’s what you’re doing, I’m saying that’s really what it looks like and why people have taken issue to your words.

I have a family member who’s a big Sony fanboy, had a friend who still is one, and have a friend who is a Microsoft fanboy. I can speak as pleasantly to them about their console, hear them verbally filate the things they love and laugh and chat with them because I take a neutral stand point in it all. I’m just in it for fun, innovation, and games. I have decided not to get a PS4 or XBOne this gen so far because I don’t appreciate how Microsoft disrespected its fan base last year or how Sony lied to everyone then back pedaled in an interview that a lot of people seem to have missed, like a day later. I don’t like companies lying to me or disrespecting me so I don’t get their products. That is not to say I ignore them outright though as I often watch what’s happening on their end of the gaming sphere, but I feel their games are all bleeding into one another and the variety I hear so much about looks the same to me. Plus I’ve yet to see any serious difference from my PS3, to the PS4 quality wise. But, because I do not own or play the games or the console, I always submit to those that do and are because their perspective is better than mine. I only make statements about factual things that I know of from said companies, or when explaining my perspective of why certain features may or may not matter to me. To consider yourself and your way of thinking as a majority is also a bias statement. Though you are not trying to be, your words come off as more bias than you think man.

Now, I don’t recall writing that I believe Mario Kart 8 and Smash is going to convince you, or likeminded people, to get a Wii U. Honestly I don’t know what would be good enough for you, or likeminded people because I’ve heard and read so many similar arguments and demands on what Nntendo needs to add to get them on board, watch Nintendo add them, then watch and heard a bigger list of nitpicky things roll out. Not saying that you are of this type of person, but the arguments are similar and it seems more like you wish Nintendo to become more like Sony and Microsoft to get your sale.

Personally, I’m more inclined to thinking games like Devil’s Third (Cannot wait) and Beyonetta 2+1 will be games to turn more heads as well as Mario Maker since I’ve seen enough Kaizo Mario to know where this is going. Fan made New Kazio Mario U 2016. I’m effing calling that. People want smart and mature games. Not M rated games, but mature ones. It’s like how I tell my friends Rugrats, Angry Beavers, Dexter’s Laboratory, and Rocko’s Modern Life are very mature cartoons despite them being made for children to watch. It’s the layers upon layers of humor, references, innuendos and such that allow for something to be enjoyed for every age for different reasons that makes something mature. An M rating just means only adults can enjoy it as kids may not get the references and such. Maturity is about broadening one’s horizons. Kids stay in play pens. Just sayin.

I am saying, however, that Nintendo is putting forth a more diverse line up than you are giving it credit for. This isn’t about Nintendo needing to broaden its horizons at this point. Now it’s about you and people like you broadening yours. Ninja Gaiden 3 is on the Wii U. Need for Speed is on the Wii U. Beyontta will be joining with two games. Mass Effect 3 is on the Wii U. Devil’s Thrid will be on the Wii U. Tekken is on the Wii U. Arkham City and Origins is on the Wii U. Xenoblade Chronicles X is coming to the Wii U. These are darker, grittier games. They also have the diversity of their first party Kirby, Zelda, Mario, Splatoon, and so on that is for the more light hearted visually and tonally crowd. That’s diversity. Sony and Microsoift don’t have diverse games in near the number of Nintendo. Oh yeah there’s Project Sparks and Little Big Planet, but that’s it. You can get Disney Infinity on the Wii U as well as Skylanders. Can’t get Hulk on it for now, but I’m willing to bet you’ll probably be able to use Nintendo characters via Amiibo on it as well for the Wii U which makes up for that loss in spades. Heck even I might consider getting that if you can have Samus fighting alongside Ironman….

Nintendo has shown the meat they’re willing to bring, yet you and your kind complain about the vegetables on your dinner plate that you don’t like even though you haven’t even tried them or you won’t even have to eat them because you can play whatever you want. Every nay sayer’s immediate response is “I want more than Mario”, get more than Mario then complain “Not kiddie games! Something mature!” we have a roll out of mature games and it’s “I want these non gaming features and lower the price” and when they don’t do that, the nay sayers have the nerve to act like Nintendo isn’t listening. Disgusting and disgraceful.

Also, you are speaking as if you are in the majority and Nintendo fans are in the minority. That actually isn’t the truth. Most people are just waiting till announcements they want to hear come out to get the system or until they are surprised by something that steals their attention and warrants an earlier purchase. Most people are reasonable like that. Only very few make demands about things that aren’t gaming related to be stuffed into their gaming console because most people just want to play the games. Again, I have seen more people moved to get the Wii U once X Y Z game announced at E3 dropped than for PS4 and the XBOne. After all, the other gamers are nice to get, but Nintendo also wants people who are not gamers to join the world of Play. And judging by how well their E3 was received, I believe they reached more people in general than the small group you speak of.

As far as staying in the black is concerned, Nintendo may be taking losses with the Wii U, but they’re still quite solid footed. Getting Wii U sales in the black would be a more apt term. Sony on the other hand has lost considerably more money than Nintendo outside of the gaming sphere. I’d be more worried about them than Nintendo. Not trying to start anything, just looking at the overall numbers.

ShadyKnights

#30

ShadyKnights commented on Poll: What Did You Think of Nintendo's E3?:

@Kirk
So out of everything I said, you pick one sentence and respond to that outside of the context of everything I said. lol You remind me of my cousin now. Okay fine you didn't say anything rude or nasty so I shall respond in kind.

You are misconstruing the important factor in those sales. These were at a time where Wii U didn't really have many games out for it that the public had not seen before and during its long drought of few new releases. As I said, its popularity was fairly low. The argument that many so called journalists and anti-Nintendo fanboys have been throwing around at Nintendo's launch titles is that they could have and did play many of those games on the PS3/360 which ignored the fact that these games were not playable at all on the Wii. Ironic than the same people who probably squeed all over the remake of Halo 1-4, The Last of Us, Ratchet and Clank, and GTA V are the same people who didn’t like a remake of games that they already played coming out on a new console really… As I said, the games are what is important and Nintendo didn't really have many new games for the console to release at a steady enough interval to appease those who haven't adopted early. And really, the first year or so is for early adopters while the following years are for the masses.

The general response to this would naturally be to show me Sony's sales figures, but as I said, Sony is popular. Sony is the prep of the video game industry right now. And last year's final E3 comments from them are what sold so many consoles as fans wanted to prove a point by not buying the XBOne since Microsoft was rude and disrespectful as hell to them. So they jumped ship to Sony. Again, this is a fact. Before E3, people hated both Sony and Microsoft due to botched press releases, but Sony managed to shine brighter by appearing as if they listened to the players. I remember how before E3 people were sounding despondent as if they would have to go to Wii U this gen and ignore the other two.

So Nintendo has been running a loss for now is not what I would call great, but sometimes companies must spend money or be willing to bet a short term loss for a long term gain. After all many analysts can tell you that the Xbox brand has been an anchor to Microsoft since or before the 360 yet no one points fingers to how that company will die off this gen or should release the next Xbox to replace the financially failed 360 or XBOne, so showing Wii U poor sales and Nintendo losses really doesn’t prove a point. I find it silly how people look at a couple of years of losses and feel that just breaks down 30+ years of stacks upon stacks of profits. They have pretty much stated that they are banking on their games to push their systems which is why E3 and their directs are so important to them and why they have been pushing the quality of both lately. Their methods are different than the competition and they have had losses, but let’s wait and see how things are between this and next E3 as "winning" E3's does produce hype and good PR and helps push consoles as well as new games.

And I know you weren’t speaking to me, but your list of things that should have been announced is mostly pretty ridiculous and petty complains man. I’m not trying to be nasty or offend, but it’s really bad when you think about it and contradictory in places.
A price drop is not necessary at this point, nor is it reasonable to ask for or expect. With many Wii Us, you get bundled at least 1 game now. A good one at that. Not to mention it already received a price cut in its first year now you want to bleed more money out of them? Why not ask Sony for a price cut? The XBOne and the Wii U are the only current gen consoles that cut their prices, so why not demand that of Sony instead? That’d actually be reasonable since the other two did already, but to ask for more is just greedy on the side of the customer.

Actually, Reggie did speak to IGN about a unified account system and he said they are looking into it and are interested in it, but he can’t really speak on anything just yet. So likely that will happen later on down the road.

Okay you cannot ask for a price cut, then demand more storage. Again, so early in the console’s life is not really apt or necessary either. Not to mention they allow for the consumer to use whatever external hard drive to up to 3TB on the Wii U and you can get a 2 TB at my Micro Center for about the price of a new game if not a little more. So if you have memory problems, just buy or use your current external hard drive. They as much as said that before the Wii U released. In a way, it’s cheaper for the consumer since they don’t have to pay for the extra in storage HD space up front, but when they need it. Win win for company and customer I see.

The battery life argument is ridiculous. The gamepad generally last about 4 hours of game play, some have reported more, some less, but that’s the average. If you are playing your game longer than that, you can always hook the gamepad up to its charger. I do so. If you are sitting too far away from your wall socket to do so, then get a USB adapter for it. I got one to play my Wii U in my car when the power went out two summers ago. Played Arkham City off screen mode. Good times. Yeah more battery life is a nice boon, but it really isn’t the problem people make it out to be. And it is rechargeable and isn't AA batteries either so I think people should calm down on that point.

The VC price cut is something I would say is fair depending on how much cut are we talking about. I do get these games are old, but essentially they pay for more VC games to be released. But news about old games really isn’t something that belongs at E3 when they can just toss it on Direct.

Why should Nintendo emulate what would be very bad for them? Nintendo does not have enough third party games to support such a system and even if they did, they’re games are many classes above others so the subscription to play said games would likely be higher to reflect this. If you’re going to get Mario Kart 8 for free, you’re going to pay more for it than what you may to get Sleeping Dogs or inFAMOUS 2. Also, they are the only console that does not require you to have a subscription service to utilize their online in any way. In fact, with the Digital Delux Program, you get a gift card for the eShop for so much money you spend on the eShop so essentially you do and can get free games. And not one offered, but what you would actually want. Also there is the Club Nintendo where you just register the games you buy and maybe answer a survey if you want and you get points to get collectables or to get some games as well. So there are two free options to get games that they offer while Sony and Microsoft want you to pay as your only option.

Playing DVD/Blu Ray/music on the Wii U is not important at this day an age. It’s 2014, not 2006. There are multiple devices that do this already in many homes. Nintendo has stated that their focus is on being the place to play games. Playing DVD/Blu Rays/ music is not playing games so they wouldn’t focus on those things. Also this is what separates Nintendo from its competition. They are a gaming focused console. This is not a negative in any way, nor is it something that needs to change.

Did you even watch the Digital Event and the subsequent days after E3? Again this last point is exactly what that Robot Chicken parody was about. That self-important, snide, attitude that Nintendo is just letting games go by the way side and that they are ignoring their fans. The Wii U is not even 2 years old yet. How are any of the games you mentioned being “ignored” by it? The people at Nintendo mentioned they have an interest in 2D and 3D Metroid game. Animal Crossing is on the 3DS and will likely come out on the Wii U soon enough. They obviously haven’t forgotten these franchises and just don’t want to put anything out about them until they have something they feel confident about. That’s not unreasonable or anything that needs fixing. It’s better to talk about games when they are going to actually be released and there is something serious to be seen rather than just a mention about them that may never come to fruition. Gamers don’t like being lied to and after last year, where that’s pretty much what publishers were doing left, right and center, to do so now would be more harmful in the long run than good.

Nintendo is not pushing to be the only console that people buy like Sony and Microsoft are. And the fact that they showed the most amount of games that you can only get on their console is how they plan on selling it. You going on about your feelings on how you, as someone who likely has no experience or deep understanding of this industry, feel would make Nintendo do well when all the fact you have to go on is anti-Nintendo hype that spread only because it was fashionable to talk trash about Nintendo and speak praises about its competition. Well now that we have a E3 with all three consoles starting off in the same position again, Nintendo is the talk of the town when the other two were in the best position to stay in the positive conversation, or at least easily stay ahead of them. For how well PS4’s are selling, Sony has to talk about how Wii gamers ran to PS4 rather than how effective their E3 was. For how insanely popular the 360 was, the XBOne is still flinching from fan response of last year. For how dogged Nintendo was for the past 7 years, they came out with a decisive victory by doing none of what you, couch analysts, or even professional analysts suggested they should do. They did so by speaking on what the actual fans wanted: New games, some old IP being revised, letting them know they do listen, and inviting them more into E3 so they can experience the games they usually miss or don’t hear about.

Most of your arguments stem from many people’s misunderstanding of what actually makes a console war, a console war. One of the big tag lines for Sega was “Genesis does what Nintendon’t”. The original console wars were started by how gaming on this console was different than that one. This started by technological differences between the two, but once technology became stronger, Nintendo focused on a different way to play. For as ridiculous as people may like to call Nintendo’s ways, the other companies, who are doing oh so much better than them mind you, are trying to adapt everything Nintendo does into themselves in a haphazard slap stick way that is very rarely meaningfully used. N64 controller breeds the analog controller for the Playstation. Wiimote breeds sixaxis, the Move, and the Kinect. Gamepad breeds touchpad, and smartglass. The dual analogs were definitely a smart adaptation and change of pace, but the rest have been just been adding the innovative additions without the innovations with them.

This is why there are doom and gloom articles about the death gaming consoles because Sony and Microsoft are so similar to computers at this point that there is very little reason to get them over a PC. Rather than complain about how Nintendo didn’t do enough or say that their victory will surely end in defeat, if you really want them to do well, why not be excited for what they did without the triple A industry and hope they do well and add the fuzzy dice and rims that you’re asking for later. Cause that stuff surely isn’t important for the Wii U itself, but just fun little addition to please a minority rather than the fans, who actually matter.

ShadyKnights

#31

ShadyKnights commented on Poll: What Did You Think of Nintendo's E3?:

@Kirk
Hey man, you’re using that word bias improperly. You see, fans pointing at the exclusives and quality products that can only be found at Nintendo is indeed less bias than you poo pooing them for not having the games that you want. It is also more bias for you to come here with a sense of righteous duty to keep the fans from getting too rowdy for your tastes and enjoying the victory that they and the bulk of the internet agree upon.

Electronic Entertainment Expo. The purpose is to entertain. Nintendo did this better that their console and game maker competition. By a land slide. Company business does not entertain, nor are your points about what Nintendo “needs to fix” relevant or even accurate. So long as they provide a product that enough people want for them to make money off of, while pleasing said customers, they’re doing what any business needs to do to survive. My 2000 Plymouth Breeze may not be as great as my dad’s 2013 Buick, but damn it, it gets me from point A to B and she does so smoothly and carries what and who I need her to.

As you said, they had the best presentation. There, they won E3. Done. The only reason you’re arguing with GC-161 at this point is because you keep injecting your personal opinion into what Nintendo is “doing wrong” and what “needs to be fixed” when your opinion is crap man. Not trying to down play your intelligence or anything, but what the hell do you or I really really know about what any company needs to do to be successful? All this follow the crowd, do what everyone else is doing, BS is just high school politics. And I’d thinks someone who tries to sound as reasonable and intelligent as you are trying to would realize that popularity contests are not a bench mark for success. Nintendo is the nerd/geek of the gaming industry. Sony and Microsoft are the preps and jocks. I’m pretty sure we all know who ends up doing the best at the end of the day. Popularity doesn’t beat actual quality and that’s what Nintendo has been and is pushing heavily.

Your likening their event to slapping new rims on an old car is also another personal opinion of their product. A bias statement meant to make the Wii U seem inferior or less than high quality when it is the new console of Nintendo. Not their N64, or Gamecube. They’re not selling the Disk Drive, they’re trying to sell and promote the Wii U. Again, your likening the other consoles to fancier cars to get people to see them as something new and luxurious as well, is also a very bias statement. Yes, they are more premium hardware machines, but to be more neutral about it, you’d have to classify all as new and that Sony and Microsoft merely are higher end cars of different brands than Nintendo’s car. You try to back pedal this statement by calling what they have shinier rims and fuzzier dice, but you’re terribly mistaken in your analogy in these additions.

Games are not additions to the car, they are the gas and locals. Currently you can drive further with Nintendo’s new car than with the competition since they have more coming out now and likely more quality later. Nintendo’s games are known for their longevity so you’ll likely be driving much longer on one tank than with the competition, hence the hype. The fact that they’re offering more refills means you can go even further and see more exotic locals while doing so, hence even more hype. The competition hasn’t really offered to take anyone any place really new or very far, for hardly any time this year. And the indie game locals are almost all going to be on the Wii U as well so the reasons to drive the other cars become less and less viable. You have a larger array of diverse locals and distance in these places you can drive with Nintendo coming soon and later. I don’t quite get how you would not want to drive that car unless you just want to go to very specific places faster later, but to each his own.

You keep speaking on Nintendo needing to make the Wii U compelling when making games for it is all they need to do, to accomplish this. Third party helps but the importance of it really has gone downhill more than people think. What point is there is getting one particular machine for games you can get on something you already own, your computer? Graphical fidelity? Well if you care about that, you can upgrade your graphics card or your rig in general and you can easily outpace the higher end consoles at less than the price of said consoles. They very obviously made the Wii U compelling with their games. Doing well at E3 is the best way to make their console compelling and winning it helps doubly so. Look at how well the PS4 has done with about as many, if not fewer, higher budgeted games at and nearly a year after its launch than the Wii U. The hype after E3 last year had 90% minimum to do with that and to deny such is just ignoring the truth.

Again, you trust in Sony and Microsoft because your bias is to their games. They provide what you want and you trust they’ll not let you down. Yet in the same lecture, you also chide Nintendo fans for trusting that Nintendo will do the same and call their feelings bias to belittle them. You claim that most gamers want what Sony and Microsoft provides because they’re popular, yet Nintendo games consistently out pace these games by the numbers. This is a fact, not a bias opinion. There are numbers to heavily prove this. So to say that most gamers want Sony and Microsoft’s offerings might actually be less true than you believe it is.

And while Nintendo hasn’t proven themselves to you, I’ve seen many and heard many more gamers who were blown away, begrudgingly convinced, and/or outright converted to them for next year at the soonest. Convincing just you is not the point or the goal. It’s a bonus, but the other thousands, if not millions who will be getting a Wii U as a primary or secondary home console will be consolation enough I’m sure.

ShadyKnights

#32

ShadyKnights commented on Poll: What Did You Think of Nintendo's E3?:

To me, E3 is like Christmas. I really love Christmas cause fun and often unexpected presents are given and received and it's really a time for chilling and hanging with your friends and family in a positive light. Unfortunately it is difficult to do this with the gaming community because most people here tend to be difficult to deal with when things are going okay for everyone, much less when there is excitement for one's preferred platform going around. Regardless, I return every year to try to share the hype.

Overall this E3 was completely saved by Nintendo for my personal enjoyment, but was doing fairly poorly over all without them in general. Microsoft did focus on many games, but they played it safe and didn't really try to do anything extra exciting really. They had good games, and they kept the beat pretty stable, but it was clear they were still wincing from the backlash angry fans gave them last year so they couldn't make the step to wow or surprise them for fear it would just bite them again. Honestly I felt the removal of the Kinect was the saddest thing about their E3 presentation. I mean I hate how they use the thing, but I feel the Kinect has potential to be a real wonderful addition to gaming if it were properly implemented into something meaningful. But Microsoft isn't willing to do anything with it so, sadly it fades into obscurity. I mean I don't care about it as it stands now, but if it's innovation, whether it comes from Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo, I'm all for it. I just wish they had the balls to stick with it and prove that their initial love of the Kinect 2 was validated.

The structure of their show was good though. Showing what's coming out this year and next, some indie games, some larger budgeted games, that's about it. Nothing bad, some excitement, but nothing that I would call great really. Plus the audience was not even trying to be excited, save for Master Chief announcement, which was spoiling the mood.

EA was almost bland personified in their presentation and actual quality. It was mostly "Here are games coming out. Mostly sequels, but whatever." They didn't seem excited about their own offerings save The Sims 4 which actually sounded a lil interesting to me, though most of the Sims games do even if I don't play them. The games looked nice, but there wasn't that sense of seeing something I didn't expect, or excitement so that left me dry. Plus there was a lot of talking during between the games and it was mildly maddening to me, but in general, it was unnecessary for what they were going to show. Basically filler really.

Ubisoft had a pretty fun conference over all. They kept talking playful and to a minimum save when explaining games that would benefit from said explanations and they kept things about as serious as a press conference about videogames should be. Some new games, some sequels, some that we saw last year, but very effective in what they needed to do.

Sony had the weakest of the conferences over all. Mostly due to the hype built around them from last year's ending, but still. Too much talking, poor attempts at joking, distracting moments with sound dropping, the focus on this years games being exclusive DLC for third party games on the PS4. I mean when did that become a good thing to talk about? I hated hearing that from Microsoft and when they finally stopped talking about Sony starts. Either way, for people who like hearing about that, it was there and if people feel that is a viable reason to have a PS4 or validates them owning it, great. They spoke to them quite effectively. For those who want a bigger indie console, Sony seems to be focused on putting as many indie games on their console as possible before Steam Machines launch. They seem to be relying heavily on the indie crowd to provide them with the diversity that the larger industry tends to avoid. An interesting way to round out their console, but nothing really to wow the masses. Then they started talking about TV, movies, and streaming services and, while that is fine to talk about within the span of 5 minutes, it absolutely murdered the flow of the event with how much unnecessary detail they went into with this. I'm fairly certain 20 minutes were used to speak about these services in detail. Yes some of that was also about playing old PS1-3 games, but the pacing was terrible and you could feel the audience start to hate hearing these guys talk after a point. They ended it all with an Uncharted sequel which pleased many I hear.

Overall for them though, the disruption in the middle of the presentation, information and game pacing wise, was too detrimental o the overall affect and left people feeling as if nothing was really announced. This is exacerbated by the fact that not many new games were talked about during Sony's conference and I don’t recall any Vita games being mentioned at all. The actual majority of games that I recall were indie games while the Playstation exclusives were notably more anemic (going by what was shown during the presentation of course).

These four really didn’t do much to tell the consumers that this was the glory of the “next gen” consoles. Even if Ubisoft did a good job at their conference, nothing was really done to show gamers that this gen was really starting with a bang. Which is fine really, I don’t recall any gen starting off amazingly well. Generally it takes a couple of years for the steam to start the train rolling down the tracks. Remember how long it took the PS3 to actually look good? Thing was an overpriced George Foreman grill that played games until Uncharted, Heavy Rain and Metal Gear Solid 4 dropped. Then suddenly it’s amazing. Well that and a steep price drop. Next gen usually has growing pains, but the problem is with how Microsoft, Sony and third party games painted this current gen. Last year we were more or less promised a slew of games to be released with the XBOne and PS4, however they have run into the same snag Nintendo ran into. Ironically people accused Nintendo of learning nothing from the past and now Microsoft and Sony have very few games for their respective new consoles while Nintendo is picking up steam as they will likely do next year. However, the awkward thing about this is, the third parties that left Nintendo still haven’t produced for the other two consoles which makes their complaining and show boating look all the more impotent and juvenile. The buzz that surrounded last year that many games were to befall the new consoles was snubbed out and it really was leaving for a rather dull feeling E3 for the first day.

Nintendo started off their conference with a playful jab at their consumers, fans, and the whiny personalities of the internet in general that showed not only do they listen to their fans, but they can give and take a joke as well as anyone else. The fight with Reggie and Iwata was more of that, and this set the stable for Nintendo treating games as a fun medium to provide entertainment. Their focus was on delivering a fun and engaging bid to the consumer that they were supporting the Wii U with all their gusto and the fans should as well. Keeping announcements after the DE and during the Tree House was also a very good way to keep people excited and interested in what Nintendo was going to announce next and what else were they going to do to increase the hype.

For whatever issues or technical faults that may have occurred during the Tree House, the overall robust feel of the everything provided a more packed sense than either of the other console and game makers. There have been more people, from what I've seen, converted to Nintendo after this event than converted to Sony or Microsoft which I think is an important deal. And unlike Sony's last minute statement that seemed to win over everyone last year, Nintendo seemed to win everyone over with their entire conference. And unlike Sony last year, it was based on games that are being announced and not a promise that the status quo won't change.

The question of who won I think people take way too seriously, as they do with everything videogame related. If people aren't being venomously attached to their console of preference, they wish to attempt a wise mature statement of "the gamers won" when really that's just a copout statement in a feeble attempt to not start an argument. The proper way to answer this is to base things on facts. I personally feel Nintendo won last year, but facts dictate last year that more people were more moved by Sony than Nintendo. This year I personally feel Nintendo won and I have heard more statements about people being moved to get a Wii U than an XBOne or PS4 after viewing all of the conferences at E3 or at least after viewing Nintendo's event. So, logistically, I believe it is safe to say Nintendo won. Now do they get a big prize? Not really, now they have to deliver on the goods lest this hype train derail. But for now, they have the most positive hype about them than the console and game maker competition and the most they've had in years without any of the big names going out of their way to damn their attempts of doing things different just for the click bate. Now positive news is the click bate.

If there was anything that I'd say is disappointing this year is the gamers really. After nearly two years of Nintendo Directs setting the stage for informing Nintendo fans of what they're working on (hell the new Zelda game was first announced on a Direct and not E3 event), people still act as if E3 is the only place to hear new Nintendo and if something wasn't announced during E3 that it either isn't in the works or will never come to fruition. This is exactly why the Robot Chicken jab at the very being was so appropriate. Nintendo lays out a list of fresh new games, and some of the most complaints I see are "Where's Majora's Mask/Metroid/Gamecube Games/Wii games in virtual console/HD Remakes?!" Petty small minded, complaints about things that really don't belong in E3, especially for Nintendo considering how they can get info about these games out. E3 should always be about new titles. It honestly baffles me that Microsoft used it to talk about the Halo Master Chief collection, but that I suppose can be excused since the series is fairly old now and people who might want to experience the first game in classic and updated styles can now do so, but Sony's remastering of GTA V and The Last of Us is downright insulting to bring up here. These games currently exist, but the same people that liken every Mario and Zelda game to one another will be the same ones praising these games when we all play Mario and GTA for the same reason, cause it's fun.

But back to my point of gamers complaining. This E3 was about setting a hard number of many games to come to the Wii U this year and a taste of what's to come for next year. Everyone and their toothless grandma has been screaming and stomping on their Bob's Soap box about how Nintendo absolutely needs to sell more Wii Us and when they do things to sell the console, now people are screaming "What about me?! I want to hear about this right now this very second!" Well spoiler alert friends, there are roughly 12 more directs between now and next E3. Each Direct is like a mini E3 event and we get more info from them on many and more specific info on select games than we do from E3 which is more just announcement heaven. More Zelda videos will be seen later, it's not necessary to see them now. Same with Star Fox. Showing more takes away from the newer IPs that people ask for, but never support. The important thing to take away from this is Nintendo hears you and they will deliver only when they are ready. And honestly, how is that unreasonable? Why rush a product you want really badly? Why not just let them take their time to do it right, then salivate over it for the oncoming years?

This year at E3 Nintendo talked about 28 new games (18 games for Wii U and 10 for 3DS [not including remakes on either]) exclusive to them being released this E3. Sony talked about 16 (5 PS4/3 10 Vita [same rules as Wii U]) and Microsoft talked about 10 that were exclusive to them. Not all of either of them are releases for this year, but Nintendo practically has to make their games on their own and they’re still pushing out more than the other’s. At least for announcements so far.

TLDR;
Microsoft did good, EA did okay, Ubisoft did very well, Sony did poorly, Nintendo did excellently. It’s dumb to complain about what you’re not getting when you’re getting more now than ever and are very likely to get what you want later on down the road. E3 is not the only means by which Nintendo gets it’s information to the gamers, if you feel something was left out or not expounded upon enough, wait till a Direct about it shows up and you’ll likely hear much more about it ala Mario Kart Direct.

ShadyKnights

#33

ShadyKnights commented on Nintendo Joining the White House for its 2014 ...:

Yeeees! More good publicity for video games! I care not that they're exercise games, gateway games are still good. Besides Wii Fit U is actually rather fun when I can move enough junk out of the way to use my balance board.

You know, in the spirit of getting people moving and all... This could have been fantastic for the Kinect to show off the Just Dance or get something big out for it and what not.

ShadyKnights

#34

ShadyKnights commented on Super Smash Bros. Hitting 3DS This Summer, Wii...:

@MoonKnight7
Thank you it was nice to have my first back and forth here be a positive one as I've seen them devolve into quite the mess on the interwebs. As a fellow Knight I salute your honor.

Wii U: Dr.Sevarius

Not sure bout the 3DS code as I don't have it on me at the moment, but the accounts are linked so you should be able to tell me by my Mii

ShadyKnights

#35

ShadyKnights commented on Super Smash Bros. Hitting 3DS This Summer, Wii...:

@MoonKnight7

Oh good, I didn't want to sound offensive or overly abrasive.

I understand what you mean as my brother is always barking at me about me getting work done while I am all about trying to do it right once rather than doing it twice cause something got messed up. And I completely understand the burnt out attitude with business decisions taking precedent, but I guess that's why I kinda respect Nintendo and why I very very begrudgingly gave up on Sony for this gen. I feel telling the customer that "Yeah... um heh.. sorry guys look there aren't as many games coming out as we anticipated, but we will not abandon you... we just need time." shows a nice balance of business ass covering and respect to the customer. Admitting one's errors or faults goes a nice little way with me. Where as Sony said you could share your games on the PS4 on a big venue where everyone could see, then quietly say "Oh well we just meant on our first party games. We'll allow the third parties to do what they want ^_^" is the kind of disgusting business move that I hate cause it's a lie guised as a half truth. Stupid as I believe almost the entirety of the XBOne is, at least they were upfront about their stance before they made the business decision to change that stance due to consumers taking their wallets and going home.

But I can understand what you mean. This can easily come off as a big business decision, but at the same time, after having made a VERY simple FPS for class a year or so back, and failing to get a simple search and destroy game completely in one week, I can't fathom how difficult it must be to actually do a fully fleshed out fighting game, trying to maintain balance, with all the characters we have seen and those we haven't just yet.

The big business decision in all that is the smart one (to me) is saying Summer and Winter rather than throwing hard dates as that has burned them before and I for one do no feel like hearing another "THEY MISSED THE DATE!!!!! THEY LIED!!!!!!!!! OMG U SUX NINTENDOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!ONE!" (cringe) If the higher ups are anything remotely like me, they started using vague date to shut them up more so than because it looks less embarrassing when you miss your dates. But that's just me, lol.

And because Nintendo is paying his check, and we theirs, I think we should be positive, but let them also know that this trust doesn't come easy or cheap and that we expect more games and Smash itself to be well worth the second purchase, or just waiting longer than those with a 3/2DS. Believe me, I am all for kicking companies in the butt with the boot of Justice whenever they cross me, I've just personally not had much reason to do so with Nintendo. Again, they apologized and asked for patience with the Wii U and as I said, an apology and an admittance of failure goes a long way with me and at the time, I thought the 20 something titles with the Wii U launch wasn't that bad. Not all I got, but I thought someone would like some of them. I mean I held off on getting Arkham City for my PS3 the moment I heard the Wii U was getting it. And I was just waiting for Lego CIty and was already used to delayed games thanks to Square conditioning me with KH3 and FF versus XIII. Hell late as it was at least Skyward Sword made it to the console it was made for. And unlike FFXV and KH3, SSB43DS was worked on in tandem with SSB4U and only opened the option for Smash to more people rather than demanding they get a new console for either if they have one or the other.

And yeah I think we both can agree on the job their doing. My god that Smash Direct. My friend kept telling me to breath through it as I'm quite certain my voice went up way more octaves than nature intended for nearly every new thing and I nearly lost it when I thought Greninja was Mewtwo...sigh He looks like a cool character, but I was really hoping they'd give me the two of Mew back... unless it's unannounced, but since they haven't removed then re-replaced a character before, I'll just consign myself to believe he's gone so if he does come back I can run around screaming and flailing my arms like Kermit.

ShadyKnights

#36

ShadyKnights commented on Super Smash Bros. Hitting 3DS This Summer, Wii...:

@MoonKnight7

I don't believe a company, I believe what Sakurai said. Even if it is spin talk mumbo jumbo, the fact is, he's working on the game and we're not. We're the audience and even Leonardo annoyed his customers some times with how long it'd take him to finish a painting. But they paid for it and generally like what they got. Artists making up excuses and eventually delivering is an age old practice and comparative it, they've gotten better at their release dates. Your argument for the Wii U comes from you and others attempting to be business minded gamers when most gamers kinda suck at that. Being business minded means thinking beyond the hear and now. Beyond Smash Bros, and also it means having insight on what is to come between it. Again, this is what E3 is for. To let those not in the business in the know about what's coming out.

Being who I am, I can appreciate cynicism, as it keeps one from getting their hopes up too high, but to just deny everything just cause you feel you know when really you're just speculating is nonsense. Not trying to pick a fight or anything and I am sorry if I am coming off as rude, but what do you know more about this game and the dev cycle than any one of us? What do any of us know more than Sakurai? There are times when the smart thing to do is to just take their word, but keep a close eye on what they do.

I'm not saying we should all trust and believe everything, but Nintendo's history shows they are perfectionists. Their history shows that 9/10 times they hit a home run when they deliver a game fans want. And generally that tenth time is Super Mario Sunshine or Wind Waker, games that were hated at first then praise for their inventiveness.

Also, while I would like to see more attention to my Wii U from other devs, if Nintendo is still going to support the system and we keep getting better and better indie games, honestly, I'm cool with that. The "triple A" industry has gone downhill in a big way last gen and with the Exception of Watchdogs, I wasn't looking for anything from them in particular this gen from last years E3. Maybe they'll change my mind this June, but till then, meh.

ShadyKnights

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ShadyKnights commented on Super Smash Bros. Hitting 3DS This Summer, Wii...:

Wow... I've known this for some time, but... Hm gamers sure do think highly of themselves, but lowly of the average poor souls. Guys, come on, remember when we were kids, just getting into gaming? What did we all have? That one kid who got into gaming a little before us who told us about the valid reasons to get the awesome super mega editions of games, or who got them without telling us, inspiring us to be more up to date on this stuff lest we miss out too. Or we were that up to date kid.

To assume the average person would be so blind as to not see the value of getting both games is nonsensical. To say the average "Soccer Mom" (if those still exist in the capacity of which the term is used) is dumb. People, what did we do when we were kids and wanted our parents to get the game/console of our choice? We effing told them which one we wanted. Heck now a days, it's not uncommon for parents to be in the know with their kids as far as gaming is concerned.

All this negativity is quite unfounded and I'm not talking about being upset for the Wii U release needing more time, which is the case. It wasn't delayed, that word wasn't even used in the Smash Bros Direct. That's a word other people interjected just because the games were being developed at the same time, but one is being released earlier (i.e. at the time of its completion) while the other will be released later at the time of its completion. After 30ish years, I'd think it was common knowledge that Nintendo is a group of perfectionists so, they take more time to make sure both games are worth it. I'm willing to bet once the basics for the Wii U game are up to home console snuff, they will be stuffing the game with features that makes the second purchase worth it.

Also, I am another person here who likely was only going to get one version. But as soon as I saw in the beginning of the direct that I would have time to get money to get both, I genuinely rejoiced with my friend and said I could get both rather than just getting the Wii U version. Heck I talked to an older friend the day before the direct and he said he was getting both when we all thought they were being released the same day and I'm willing to believe a fair number of Wii U owners and future owners and 3DS current/future owners can appreciate the idea of having both as well.

I'm not going to hyperbolize like so many others and state why it is practical to release whichever version first or hold off on one to make sure they're released at the same time, cause I don't run a company and I am crazy enough to believe that the SSB4U/3DS devs felt confident enough about both games to release either at whatever time they chose. I'm weird like that.

TL;DR
I'm happy they're released with the SD Smash Bros first then the HD later, can't wait to play them in that order, everyone complaining really has no idea what they're talking about considering E3 is when we really get the big game announcements and to cannibalize Gamer Christmas would be very stupid. Shut up and enjoy the ride to E3.