Seriously, NL, why, oh WHY do you keep posting Pachter's opinions?
Has this guy not shown time and enough that he's more a troll than a relevant force in the industry?
I just logged in to write this, it angers me so much that sites like NL give him credit by keeping to post his "views"...

There's no way it will release around the price point of Wii U Deluxe pack. You have to take into account that the 8GB of RAM are GDDR5-RAM which is very expensive. I'm betting on 450 bucks at the least.

And also, I dont see this as the same Wii / PS3 head to head. Wii U I believe is stronger in comparison as the Wii was.

Hm, isnt that what Mario 3D Land had, just for free in the game? Alternate versions of levels with some new ones...

Hm, this probably means there wont be a original Donkey Kong game for the 3DS in a while... :-/

Yes! I love it! Let's show them corporats their decision sucked.

I love it and thought it was the essence of pure Mario fun perfectly tailored for a handheld. I dont think it should be compared to a console Mario game, different thing for me.
So, bring on a sequel! However, it may be a bit harder (pls not as hard as NSMBU) and also have a better, that is more extensive reward for completing the whole game with max. stars.

It does seem rushed and raises eyebrows as to wether this has something to do with the release of the WiiU version.

@savino: yes exactly what I was thinking! After all the moaning about lack of "hardcore" on Wii it is just too ironic that the same people now hate on ZombiU. All those comparisons to CoD or Halo type of games are ridiculous. Totally something else and not comparable... and who cannot recognise that doesn't deserve to have an opinion about ZombiU anymore!

I think it's awesome to finally have a true survival horror game again! The drought since the times before Resident Evil 4 has been too long. Maybe so long that those early reviewers didn't remember what makes a game like that fun... Or they're too young to remember.

I can only feel sorry for whomever wasn't able to let themselves enjoy this game. This game is actually terrifying if you let it. What fun! Especially the asymmetry between game pad view and action on the big screen, this has led me to several major screams when I wasn't expecting an attack but was distracted while looking down.

WOW INCREDIBLE!!!

This is still better than most other reward programs out there. Reward programs like webmiles or loyalty cards in shops usually only give you 1%

Wow, some nice words from Mr. Tretton... Who would have thought

Well Mr. Molyneux, even though I grew up with your games in the 90's (and they were visionary and amazing) I did struggle to see anything amazing coming out of you since Black & White...

And why should the Wii U be AS revolutionary as the Wii? The Wii was a huge revolution introducing a completely new concept to gaming. Not every single console iteration needs to do that. In the past it was mostly innovations in grafics and controller design that occurred. I think there is no question about Nintendo being the most forward-pushing and revolutionizing publisher that's been around.

Besides, I still feel that the extra screen with all the different play options that have been shown IS quite an innovation (although I need to try it first to get a better judgement of it).

Blastcorps!

Seriously, WHY are Pachter related news still posted here on this site? It gives him importance and credibility, which he clearly has neither of.

I dont know NL... I recently sent you a news suggestion of a Miyamoto interview where he says Retro is not doing the next Zelda cause they're too busy and you didnt post it, but you keep posting articles about Michael Pachter...

20$ wud be the hurtful max for me, I think 30$ screams cash-machine

I ALWAYS have the 3D turned on to MAX... I never wanna go back to 2D. I'm really glad that I dont get headaches or dizziness from it, as I think games look so much better in 3D

@arrmixer: agree, it is less likely in these times that either M or Sony will release super-high tech consoles for a loss like they did with the current gen. Too risky and developers are already now getting in trouble for too high development costs of HD games. Of course only time will tell, and Sony's Jack Tretton said with PS4 they wanna be again "the best", but I dont expect a huge lap either.

For me graphics do matter, to some degree at least. I still think Nintendo gameplay is often superior to what others have to offer, but I also enjoy some badass beautiful HD grafics (I love my Xbox360!). So I do wish for the Wii U to be noticably stronger than current HD gen. Also of course for it to not be left out again in a few years. But Iwata wouldnt say it so clearly that this will not be the case, if it wasnt so. That Microsoft bloke is a bit full, how can he even know how powerful the console is really? He doesnt have one...

No charger? How are you supposed to charge it then??
I like the design, the rounded edges, the riddance of the shiny surface (no more fingerprints, yey!), the fact that the console is not much larger in total but the screens fill out much more of the area. I dont like that they got rid of the 3D light symbol and that the home button etc look a bit plastic and have no more white writing on them.

I think the XL version looks better than the regular one. I like the new rounded edges.
Will try in store to see how it feels in hands (if too heavy) and if graphics look still good when stretched. Otherwise I'm gonna get this.

looks fun to me

I miss the days of tech demo's and show reels. Anyone remember the reels they showed before N64 or Gamecube where announced? Gawd, the good old days, I dont get why Nintendo is so tightlipped these days...

@PixelatedPixie: exactly, reassurance is the word! we all wanted that, the critics needed that, but it didnt come! if you know at least that a title is in development you can feel assured. this is just hanging in the air and N wanting to us to trust them. But frankly, after Wii and after the WiiU presentation, I dont thinik I do. And I will not part with my money so easily this time around.

They better have Pikminm, NSMBU and Nintendoland at launch... WiiU needs it. And I seriously hope they will announce other titles that are in development...
To at least acknowledge the production of a title in works can give confidence, for players considering to buy WiiU, or developers considering to develop for WiiU.
I understand that for 3DS games were shown in 2010 that are still not out and that this is annoying some, me too to some degree. But then, it depends on how you communicate an announcement. For instance they could have (at the presentation yesterday) announced a trailer with launch window games, then with 2013 games and with future games in development. Or at least some of that. Thrown us a bone of a big gun we can look forward to and get excited about.

I still think it was a mistake not to reveal it, not matter if it will take more than a year for release. we needed to get hyped, THEY (the critisc) needed to get something thrown. Pimkin 3 and Mario U aint enough, sorry.

What a terrible, terrible conference! No big announcements, most titles we already knew about. Mario U looks nice, but we've seen those games many times before. Way too much time spent on 3rd party or games that are too weak and no one wants to see (Just Dance 4, WiiFit U etc.). Where are the big guns??? I am totally disappointed, I waited a whole year for this... The scripting and pacing was just soo bad and boring. Does anybody in the industry still know how to EXCITE in a presentation? I miss the days when E3 presentations got lots of hurrahs and cheers from the audience. And seriously Nintendo, is that what you call focusing more on core? I left with the feeling this is not much more than Wii 2, with the same kinda games we already know. Very bad move. You really needed to show, and I mean 1st party, that you want us back (us so called "hardcore", I prefer to say "core"). Meh, meh, meh, I'm not convinced. Kinda sad actually. The only good big points for me are Pikmin 2 and the Nintendo Direct conference. Pikmin shouda been presented at the end. But instead we're left with Nintendoland... Not saying it couldnt be fun, but how unclimatic!

meh! i'm totally not excited...

OMG I am soooo underwhelmed!!!!!
I waited a year for this presentation......................
Pikmin 3, Mario U, that's it???
Where are the big guns, Nintendo???
At least show SOME footage of upcoming big titles.....
And where was the proper showing of how Pikmin and Mario use the controller? The world is sceptical and needs convincing.
Most games rather suggest Wii, than something new. We've all seen this before.
What a bad presentation

Wow, I'm impressed! And very happy! It looks like our Big N is not finally getting online right, but even better, getting ahead of the others maybe!

wow so cool!

I tend to disagree that more horse power wont matter in the near future. Graphics will keep getting better until there is no more distinction between reality. Just look at Avatar, the movie. I assume this is where we're headed in games. And even further. For games with particular artstyles like Super Mario or Zelda this may be different and the ceiling reached sooner.

Yes yes, very good ideas!

@Crystalking18: I think it's a bit too harsh to say Nintendo only has exploited Mario in recent years. Mario Galaxy 2 was released only 2 yrs ago, Mario 3D Land just last holiday season. Those were fresh, creative and fun. We gotta remember Nintendo has also a buisness to run and as we saw with the 3DS, it can go really quick with the bad sales/negative press. If the NSMB series outsells most other games by so much, why not use this to create some security for a console? I don't think this is exploiting, but a smart and good move. And let's not forget how far other companies out there go with the real cashing-out of yearly-renewed game series, that are almost identical releases to the previous ones. Nintendo is by no means anywhere close to this yet.

I dont perceive this as an overkill just jet. Let's wait to see how both sequels, 3DS and WiiU, turn out. Nintendo might just trump all our expectations, remember SMG2's insane creativity progression from the first title (although I do not expect such a big triumph here).

And from a business point of view I think it's a good choice, making sure the 3DS stands on deeper ground, which can only be a good thing for all involved. Also, as the article says, the release timing is very clever in terms of building more base for the holidays.

And as players let's not forget that almost all Mario games (standalone) are usually thought to be excellent. I don't expect major changes to occur in this regard.

@Alienfish is making sense

oh no I hope it will not be cancelled!

@paburrows: errm, we dont know the price yet...

Great decision, gives them more time to prepare it properly and more games will be ready. Also better for sales probably. May be even hard to get one then, like with the Wii. I got the 2nd last one just with luck and then for months nothing in the shops.

Wow wohoo!! This is so cool Had a really long day at work and came home to an eMail that I won a red 3DS! I never win anything in competitions! Thank you Nintendolife, now I can play with my lil' sis )

oh nooo, boo Nintendo! If my PC can do it, why not add it to Wii U??

So I guess you wont need this stand when you get the Circle Pad Pro?

totally fine with me too! better not rush it and do it properly, have console smoothed out and better launch games prepared. I can wait until next Xmas

One word: AMAZING!

that's odd, at least on the imaged above the added scanline make it look so much worse... :-/

OMG that would be thrilling!! We've been asking for this, is it gonna happen now?? Retro is the best

what's the deal with the Gamestop exclusivity? First Xenoblade, now the Circle Pad as well.

oh nooooo already?? I was hoping he would do that not for another 10 yrs.....

hmm, retails price for an iOS game? I dont think so...