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Re: Games You Feel Aren't as Good as People Say They Are

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iKhan wrote:

I've only played the first Uncharted, and here's what I'll say. The combat and platforming were well designed and the story was good.

But it wasn't a mind-blowing experience in any category. The collectables didn't do anything. I hate quicktime events, as to me they feel like they replace what looks like a genuinely fun experience. And I never really felt like I was on an adventure, but instead on scripted rails.

Most others games I play nowadays have something of a "wow" period, but Uncharted didn't have that at all.

It's still better than some Telltale game or whatever. The first Uncharted plays up every Indiana Jones cliche so hard, that it really does feel like a Hollywood movie at times. Grant, not to the degree that I ever feel like I'm watching more than playing, but I just got done watching 4 great movies this month, so I was really in a cinematic mood. And that's the thing, I feel like these games really had their place in the industry, and considering when it came out, there wasn't much like it, and it was when realistic HD graphics were new, I can see why a lot of people were blown away by it. Especially now that movies has so much CG nowadays.

Just thought I'd give an alternate perspective.

@roy130390 I'm glad you understood my post, since I left two or three sentences out of it that I didn't notice until now.

@skywake That's pretty much the point I've gotten to with games. I still have some resentment for games that have little to no gameplay in them, but that's more because gaming is too expensive to warrant giving such a subjective experience the time & energy I'd need to refine my tastes there. It's like, if a game's story sucks, I might still still enjoy the gameplay, and I usually know what to look for beforehand. For TV, movies, and other purely artist experiences, I can't really trust the opinions of the masses, because the experience overall is too subjective. I'd have to actually spend time with it, and I can't really afford to buy a full season of a Telltale game, or a bunch of walking sims just to figure out which ones are worth it. Hell, I refined my tastes in video games rentals and rampant piracy, and now both options aren't nearly as convenient here...

Simply put, aside from a few genres that I'm dismissing offhand out of principle rather than merit, I do feel that I can just chill. I saw a lot of stuff at E3 that I turned my nose at, but I saw just as much, if not more that had me excited. I guess I'd rather just focus on those from now on. I mean, a lot of that angst before was born out of the desire talk about something, and everyone just seemed to be talking about games that didn't interest me. So...I guess I can't really be too mad at them, since I still got some enjoyment in the end.

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Re: Games You Feel Aren't as Good as People Say They Are

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I think I've moved on from this whole conversation - spending time away from the video game community really helps to put into perspective how little other people's opinions matter at the end of the day. I did spend some time this week thinking about why I was so hard against cinematic-heavy action-adventure games like Uncharted, despite greatly enjoying Uncharted 1 & 2 (Haven't played 3 yet), and...I guess it's because I was so shocked at the public's reaction to these games. Uncharted is a series that really captures the feeling of watching a blockbuster movie like Indiana Jones without sacraficing too much in the gameplay department. There's still well-placed collectables and a servicable combat system that was heavily inspired by its contemporaries of the time. Now that I'm playing through the PS4 collection, knowing that it's one of the few of its kind in my collection, it's easier for me to appreciate what it did right.

I still don't feel like it and Gears of War needed to be copied so heavily. Granted, I think Modern Warfare was the one copied more often, but they still ran the good ideas into the ground, often without adding much of their own. Still, there were other good interpretations from back then, too, so I guess just anything that's done too often can become bland and uninteresting. Right now, my beef is with the latest run of Walking Simulators and Telltale-esque interactive stories, but I'm realizing now that it's just trying to be different in an industry that's done so many of the same things, to the point that they've been run into the ground. So I guess I shouldn't be mad at them...or, seeing as people are now backing off from Uncharted's formula, what I should be hoping for is walking sims to be ran into the ground hard, all the way to the center of the earth, locked away for all eternity, but only because I'd rather that indie devs moved on to a different set of ideas, instead of copying Stanley Parable. And poorly at that.

So to summize: Everything that's done too much is overrated, because there are still so many possibilities left in the world, so long as people are willing to apply some imagination and ingenuity.

...Wait, are we specifically talking about Nintendo Switch games? If so...oops...

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Re: Anime & Manga (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

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@CanisWolfred oh..almost forgot.

While you're around, what would you say is a decent Gundam series to check out for someone with very little prior knowledge to the whole thing?
I'm mostly interested in Iron-Blooded Orphans (because I'm part of the crowd who don't hate Mari Okada's guts ) and Thunderbolt (because...the artwork for it is cool. I'm not even joking)

I don't want to get really deep into the whole thing because that s*** is kinda intimidating tbh but there's not much good mecha stuff outside of Gundam that isn't riddled by some borderline-magical BS.

Asking you because I feel like you're probably one of the guys around here who seems to know the most about the series, if not outright "#1". Well, and I wouldn't know where else I could ask someone because screw the usual places for anime fandoms haha

Most should do ya fine. Most of the OVAs and a couple movies would greatly benefit from prior knowledge, but it's hardly required for all but a few. Iron-Blooded Orphan would be a good place to start if you just want a self-contained story, as would Thunderbolt. Granted, neither encapsulate the usual tone of the series, and part of their appeal is that they're stylistically different from previous entries, but I doubt it'd have too much of an impact on your experience.

If you want to get into the whole of the franchise, I'll have to go to my usual standby: The original series, or at least the Movie Trilogy, which thus far are the only Gundam compilation movies I've encountered that are worth watching. It helps establish the basic tropes that the rest of the franchise pulls from for inspiration to varying degrees, and it's just a fun watch in its own right. Very detailed setting and good people pushed to the brink by the horrors war on both sides, without it feeling too heavy-handed or going to R-rated lengths just to shock people. It'll also give you the backround info for a lot of the side stories, including Thunderbolt and 08th MS Team, and I feel like it paints certain stories like Stardust Memories and War in the Pocket in a different light depending of if you're familiar with the events of 0079 and its direct sequels, Zeta Gundam and ZZ Gundam. Gundam Unicorn also benefits greatly if you've seen those three, plus Char's Counterattack, but really, you just need Char's Counterattack to get what's going on, because outside of fanservice and backround info, that movie is the only story it ever directly references.

Still, whichever ones you want to watch should still be fine, so long as they aren't direct sequels. And there aren't even a lot of those - I already named almost all of them. Here, I'll list the last remaining ones: Gundam SEED Distiny is the sequel to Gundam SEED, if not an outright retread. Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz and Gundam 00: Awakening of the Trailblazers are, along with Char's Counterattack, the only movies that directly follow the storyline of their preceeding TV series. Gundam Bulid Fighters Try is the second season of Build Fighters, I don't know why they named it differently. And there's a couple obscure OVAs that are still mostly self-contained, but are still side-stories within their respective subseries: Gundam SEED Stargazer (takes place during SEED Destiny) and Mobile Suit Gundam MS IGLOO 1 & 2, which are, along with the 7(!!!) other OVAs that take place within the UC Timeline, specifically during the events of the One-Year War. It's an anthology, though, and if I'm being honest, you could probably learn more about the UC setting from watching these OVAs than you would from watching the original Gundam series. I know I watched it soon after finishing 08th MS Team, and it really sold me.

...I hope I didn't scare you off with all of this like I did several others before you, but then again, I didn't have Iron-Blooded Orphans back then for me to go, "watch this great piece of standalone work!" in case they still don't want to dive into the enormous ocean that is the Gundam multiverse, of which IBO is a warm, luxurious lagoon within it.

So yeah, TL;DR - if IBO interests you, go with that. Thunderbolt is still ongoing, so I'm less likely to recommend that until it's finished. If you like them and want to dive into the rest of the franchise, I recommend going straight for the starting point, but it's also not that necessary, as IBO is one of the many "alternate universe" settings that they've been going with since G-Gundam, and even Victory Gundam and F91 before that were self-contained stories that take place long after the only long continuous story-thread had been tied neatly into a bow (and later double-notted by Unicorn Gundam, because hey, why not?). I don't believe it's nearly as intimidating as people seem to think it is. It's like being worried you won't enjoy Final Fantasy XV because you haven't played 1-14, including that mobile game based on Final Fantasy 7. You're not missing as much as you think you are, although I do still recommend trying the rest of the franchise at your own pace if you enjoy it. You just gotta start somewhere.

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Re: The PlayStation 4 fan thread.

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People keep complaining about nothing "new", but they finally actually showed us the games they just teased with zero information past years. So they all seem new to me. We haven't really seen most of them in motion before. And I liked that they're still focusing on cinematic story driven adventures rather than "massively online persistent world" junk that seemed to be all the rage at other shows. It was refreshing.

This is a fair point, and it was good to see Spider-Man in action again, especially from a competant developer. And yes please, more singleplayer-focused games. Sony does that quite well...actually, I think it's more that they suck at making compelling online-focused games, but at this point, contrary to what Microsoft and Ubisoft think, we don't need a million of those, anyways. And I'm really tired of hearing how some singleplayer games integrate online components, even if you don't actually want to play online. What's the freakin' point? You're afraid people won't actually like playing it online, so you gotta try to find some other way to justify the servers? Maybe you should just axe the online components all together if you don't think they'll add anything. Sure, some people liked being a total jerk in Dark Souls, but at least I could easily turn that bit off so I didn't have to deal with them...looking at you, Destiny & Elite: Dangerous...seriously, I wound up rebuying No Man's Sky, I was so desperate for an alternative to that hogwash... EDIT: Okay, No Man's Sky still does that, too, I had other reasons to be angry at Elite: Dangerous. I just wanted an excuse to call Elite: Dangerous "hogwash".

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Re: The PlayStation 4 fan thread.

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@Peek-a-boo I forget who said it, but I guess Sony really is "stretching themselves a bit thin" with all these conferences. Then again, I guess 3+ smaller events is better than 1 big event in this modern age. And condering the long release dates, I guess it also gives devs more time to put together press builds/tech demoes/etc. without slowing things down too much. Hopefully TGS will be at least as interesting as what we say this past weekend.

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Re: What was missing at E3 that you hoped for?

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CanisWolfred wrote:

Bronze wrote:

Joeynator3000 wrote:

....MHXX....

And Pikmin Worlds, but I'm sure we'll see more in a direct later. The former is a suped up version a 3DS game, the latter would probably get lost in the sea of announcements.

But overall, some more unexpected surprises would've been nice. At least a left-field one. I guess that was Mario + Rabbids, and now I remembered the meaning of "out of left field"...

Oh, so apparently Pikmin World was not actually a thing. Damnit, this is why I hate rumor-mills...

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Re: Xbox One/Xbox 360 Thread

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kkslider5552000 wrote:

Halo 1's flood is universally considered to be the worst part of that game.

I gave up on Halo when I found Halo 3's campaign to just not be as fun as the previous two games. Which is a shame as I did genuinely love the first 2 games, but at this point it seems like a series that mostly exists because it's popular rather than living up to high standards.

I know what you mean. ODST tried to be different by forcing more of that cautious approach RR529 talked about, but once Reach was out and eveyone was moving on from Halo 3's multiplayer, I kinda decided I had my fill of the series. The campaigns after 2 just weren't that fun, and while I think I might've appreciated Reach's story, I wasn't sold on the gameplay from the Beta and gameplay footage I saw...it just looked like a Me-Too shooter, which is a shame, since, Ironically, the earlier games seem so refreshing compared to most of the COD-Clones of last gen...

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Re: What was missing at E3 that you hoped for?

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Bronze wrote:

Joeynator3000 wrote:

....MHXX....

And Pikmin Worlds, but I'm sure we'll see more in a direct later. The former is a suped up version a 3DS game, the latter would probably get lost in the sea of announcements.

But overall, some more unexpected surprises would've been nice. At least a left-field one. I guess that was Mario + Rabbids, and now I remembered the meaning of "out of left field"...

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Re: All-Encompassing E3 2017 Thread

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iKhan wrote:

Nintendo review:

The Bad:

  • I get it, Nintendo wants to be to the point. But that was too short. Give us some concept art and a developer comment on Prime 4. Give us some more gameplay.
  • It seems like Nintendo hasn't learned their lesson about 2D platformers on home consoles. It's not that 2D Platformers are bad games, but they can't leverage powerful hardware. They are really best reserved for the weakest hardware available.

The Good:

  • The Treehouse surprises were great.
  • I loved that Nintendo had the balls to tease something that they have little to show for. They kind of stopped doing that back in the Wii U days.
  • A solid number of good looking games, and it's very clear Nintendo will have a steady stream of games through 2018.
  • Mario Odyssey looks like a must buy, and is really bucking Mario trends.
  • No Retro game

No seriously, where is the ignore button? I forgot how hard it was to read posts that are this wrong...

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Re: All-Encompassing E3 2017 Thread

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Alright, since it looks like things have wound down - Final tally of games shown that I'm excited about:

Ace Combat 7: Skies Unknown (PS4/XBO/PC)
Ashen (PC/XBO)
Assassin's Creed Origins (PS4/XBO/PC)
Aven Colony (PC/PS4/XBO)
Black Desert Online (PC/XBO)
Blade Strangers (Switch/PS4/PC)
Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night (Switch/PS4/PSV/XBO/PC)
Crackdown 3 (XBO)
Dishonored: Death of the Outsider (PS4/XBO/PC)
Dissidia Final Fantasy NT (PS4)
Dragonball FighterZ (PS4/XBO/PC)
Fire Emblem Warriors (Switch/3DS)
Ghost of a Tale (PC/XBO)
Griftland (PC)
Knack 2 (PS4)
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions (3DS)
Matterfall (PS4)
Metro Exodus (PS4/XBO/PC)
Metroid: Samus Returns (3DS)
Metroid Prime 4 (Switch)
Monster Hunter: Worlds (PS4/XBO/PC)
Ni no Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom (PS4)
Ori and the Will of the Wisps (PC/XBO)
Pokemon (Switch)
Pokken Tournament DX (Switch)
Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin (PS4/PC)
Sea of Thieves (PC/XBO)
Shadows of the Colossus (PS4)
Skull & Bones (PS4/XBO/PC)
Sonic Forces (Switch/PS4/XBO/PC)
Spider-Man (PS4)
Splatoon 2 (Switch)
Super Lucky's Tale (XBO)
Super Mario Odyssey (Switch)
The Artful Escape (XBO/PC)
The Last Night (PC/XBO)
Uncharted: The Lost Legacy (PS4)
Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus (PS4/XBO/PC)
Yakuza Kiwami (PS4)
Yakuza 6: The Song of Life (PS4)
Yoshi (Switch)
Zwei: The Ilvard Insurrection (PC)

Also excited about Xbox Originals being backwards compatible with Xbox One, so now I know my Xbox games won't be obsolete if my 360 spontaneously combusts.

Oh, and there were a lot of Playstation VR games that I was excited for:

Bravo Team
DOOM VFR
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim VR
Monster of the Deep: Final Fantasy XV
Moss
No Heroes Allowed! VR
Star Child
Superhot VR

So yeah, pretty exciting turn out. I know I'm missing one or two here and there, but hey.

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Re: Xbox One/Xbox 360 Thread

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DarthNocturnal wrote:

@CanisWolfred

You might say that...

EDIT: Nevermind, you got it.

But yeah, they share quite a few traits with the Zerg. Maybe not the same end goal, but they most certainly have intelligence.

Why the dislike exactly? Do you just hate fighting them? Fair enough; some are annoying.

They're like if you gave the fast Zombies from Half-Life 2 shotguns and assault rifles. Yes, I hate fighting them.

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Re: Xbox One/Xbox 360 Thread

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DarthNocturnal wrote:

@CanisWolfred

If by “a few games behind' you mean “I never played 2 or beyond“, then, yeah.

I stopped partway through ODST. Did the Flood have anything resembling an intelligence?

EDIT: Oh. I guess there was. Musta blanked that one out, since, well...I hate the Flood.

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Re: Xbox One/Xbox 360 Thread

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DarthNocturnal wrote:

@CanisWolfred

They are similar in a lot of ways to the Zerg. It wouldn't be much of a stretch.

I recall the Flood being largely unintelligent? But I'm a few games behind, and it's been ages since I've played a Halo game. The Zerg are a hive-mind, and despite their appearance, are shown in the story of Starcraft to act deliberately and purposefully. I recall the Flood just...basically being brainless Zombies that spread through some sort of desease or whatever. I kind of imagine using them would just be...making the units and then they act of their own will, because that's how it seemed to work in the other games I played.

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Re: Xenoblade Chronicles 2

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I tried watching the Treehouse footage, but...I can't. The more I watch of this, more I hear about this, the more I hate it. It's not just different, it seems like a gross simplification of what made the first game special, IMO. Some much of it felt unique and different from other RPGs, that I couldn't help but love it on so many levels. Granted, XCX wasn't as well-rounted, but it instead put its focus on exploration, and I felt like it did an awesome job, not to mention Sci-fi JRPGs are rare enough that could easily stand out.

This, on the other hand, just feels pointless. Why are we back to fire level, ice level forest level, etc. that have no connections to eachother? Why does the combat and exploration look almost the same, but more simple, and less helpful in terms of exploration? Why do the main characters look so anime-esque that they don't even the general art design anymore?

And don't even get me started on the living weapons/excuse to have a bunch of characters standing around doing nothing story hook that I'm used to seeing in B-list Anime and RPGs...I think I'm just going to give this game a total pass. The previous ones are big enough, so I guess I coud say I'm satisfied.

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Re: Xbox One/Xbox 360 Thread

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DarthNocturnal wrote:

Pleasebeplayablepleasebeplayablepleasebeplayable....

EDIT: “No, Halo Wars 2: Awakening the Nightmare is a separate expansion for Halo Wars 2 and is not included as part of the Season Pass.“

.....what the crap? It said we got story DLC...

EDIT 2: A: “No. The Flood are an AI-controlled adversary in Halo Wars 2: Awakening the Nightmare and will not be a playable faction.“

So, not only is this conveniently not a part of the season pass (even though we're still in “season“), but... no playable Flood.

Feeling somewhat burned at the moment...

Oh good, now I have every excuse to avoid it! Thanks Microsoft. Seriously, thanks, I really do hate the Flood and I wouldn't bother playing as them even if I was given the option. Not that it would make the least bit of sense if you could...

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Re: All-Encompassing E3 2017 Thread

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I had a whole big thing written up before, but the Treehouse stuff has thrown a lot of it for a loop, so I'll hopefully be able to give a more positive perspective, at least. The Quick version:

  • Super Mario Odyssey is the best thing ever. Period. I love it.
  • I would've liked to see more of Metroid Prime 4 and Pokemon, but whatever, they're slated for next year anyways, so I'm sure we'll see more at least by next E3.
  • Fire Emblem Warriors is everything I had hoped for - classic Musou action mixed with just enough strategy to break up said action and make you feel more like a commander on a large battlefield, rather than just an overpowered living weapon.
  • Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser’s Minions looks like a gorgeous remake, and I'm looking forward to trying out the new content.
  • Splatoon 2 still looks pretty boss, though I guess there were no doubts there.
  • Pokken Tournament DX makes me glad I passed up the Wii U version.
  • the new Yoshi game looks fun as heck, and as delightfully adoreable as always
  • Kirby, on the other hand, has taken the cuteness too far. I'm sorry, but when you start utilizing the power of love and friendship as an actual game mechanic, I have to take a pass - I'd like to keep my man-card, please. Especially what I had to go through to get it back last time...
  • Dear Sonic Forces: Please don't suck. Please, please, PLEASE don't suck. I already like the rogue's gallery you've brought, but the tone of the trailers still has me worried...not to mention it's still Sega...
  • Haven't seen the Treehouse footage of XC2 or Metroid: Samus Returns, so I'm going to reserve judgment until I've sat down with it - at least this time around. I was going to rip it a new one after seeing the trailers, but now that there's actual gameplay footage to view, I figure I mas as well conserve my ammunition...

So yeah, I've been mostly satisfied with this presentation. Mostly. I'll talk to you guys later, once I've assessed the damage the weeaboo bombs left on Elysium...

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Re: All-Encompassing E3 2017 Thread

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Octane wrote:

@IceClimbers @CanisWolfred Sony's 2015 conference was similar to last year's as well. I think it was the 2014 conference you were thinking about. 2015 was Horizon reveal, and straight into The Last Guardian.

No, I meant 2015, but I forgot that I was the only one who wasn't excited about the prospect of training a giant mutant dog to help me with things that any other game would've let me accomplish on my own in far more spectacular fashions...

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Re: Monster Hunter: World

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Haru17 wrote:

Am I the only one who's excited for grappling hooks and full 3D mounting and traversal?
(Yes I am using the power of "am I the only one" to get this thread back on track!)

That, and hopefully not having to go through a loading screen on a frequent basis are the biggest reasons for my excitement, actually.

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Re: The PlayStation 4 fan thread.

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Dezzy wrote:

@CanisWolfred

Did you actually want to play it? I assumed you were joking

Nope, I was actually serious, though I forgot to post my story about dreaming of leviathens while waiting in line for Sega Bass Fishing at Chuck E. Cheeses. I can see how you'd make that mistake without that context.

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