Video: Not Everyone Is Pleased With Nintendo Labo

Those "WHERE'S SMASH 4D ????///?/" comments are so obnoxious.

What a bit of whining babies. I am not happy with Labo myself, but I understand and wish Nintendo the best. I just will be vocal if they don't keep the games I like too.

Where's Smash?

Kidding! I'm not a fan of Labo, but I would be if I had children or were in a position to supervise them. It's easy to imagine how Labo will be implemented in a classroom setting.

Adults who bought Switch are pissed that Nintendo still wants to support kids.

As soon as I saw the article name I knew Smash would be involved somehow.

(too busy playing Splatoon 2 and Xenoblade 2 to even care about provocative content).

Maybe do a video next on soft modding a Switch if in that desperate need of clicks?

Well I'm pretty happy with it--it's just so original and imaginative with a load of potential for fun--and I don't really see it being one of those things that will hinder progress on any of the big games people are waiting on.

They announced Labo now so people aren't so confused when it gets represented in Smash.

Me too I don't like Labo but I don't expect to see only things that I like on my consoles. All the consoles I love from the past had games that I don't like, I never bought those games and never had problems, I'll just do the same with Switch.

Title's kinda dumb. In other news, people have different opinions on different things. Who knew?

Sure, I think it’s built for the landfill but I’ll admit the commercial was among Nintendo’s best, and probably such a low cost risk that they can’t lose on it so good for Nintendo

"whenever this kind of thing happens our video guru Alex like to make toe-curling, smarmy videos putting down people who have differing opinions". Come on. No other single format professional website has this. It's awful.

Can't let that image slide by without a reference.

Oh boy, it‘s impossible to please everyone (especially with a product that is heavily focused towards people of a specific age group)? Next you‘ll tell me the Earth is round and the sky is blue!

People clamoring for specific games would do it nomatter what was announced. Unless it was of course that thing they want.

And whether or not people like LABO, it's a new IP, which is what Nintendo's firmest critics tend to demand from them. And Nintendo knows that to get a new IP off the ground, it needs to be served with a certain amount of novelty.

Labo is completely out of my age range and also completely uninteresting to me personally. But I could see kids playing with Labo. Why not?

Besides, the point of critique that cardboard is "cheap to manufacture" and that the games are then somehow not worth their price is beyond ridiculous.

We don't know anything about the games, and stamping out and shipping boxes the size of the LABO SKUs has GOT to be more expensive than sending out a DVD-case with a plastic disc.

The price point isn't exactly kid-friendly though (you can get a 2DS plus a game for the price of a Labo kit!). $20 kits with free downloadable (or at least inexpensive retail) software would have made a world of difference in managing consumer expectations.

I won't comment on the Labo concept itself as it isn't for me, but I think Nintendo has been monumentally foolish in charging the price of a full retail game plus a AU$20-$50 premium for cardboard. To put matters into perspective, Wii Party U cost less than the standard price of a Wii U game and that came with a controller (plus batteries) in the box! Crazier still, the Wii U Party bundle with the controller was $10 cheaper than buying the standalone Wii Remote Plus (which would have contributed to its solid sales).

3DS games with an amiibo figure in the box cost only $10 more (and in some cases, an NFC reader is included as well). So why on Earth is cardboard so expensive?!

I'll admit that I'm mildly curious, but the fact that I can't buy the cardboard sets or the software individually is extremely off-putting, and I can't see myself supporting this. Good for those who find enjoyment in it though. I might consider getting the sets solely for the software if the Labo sets drop in price.

Got to say I find these videos slightly childish. Although the (handpicked) comments are fairly unintelligible they do have valid points (price / marketing the Switch at a younger demographic / durability). Using dumb comments to make yourself look clever has the opposite effect on me I'm afraid.

I get that it's done for humour but, for me, it comes across as cheap fanboyism.

Shame because that point about discs being cheaper than cardboard and R & D costs is a good one and you could have probably made a video pointing that out.

Labo would have been great if you could buy ONE piece of software and DOWNLOAD the patterns for the cardboard. But in this day and age, apparently companies need to withhold a little something, to make it suck just a little...

such a useless article/video

I do think it's a bit expensive, but Labo is still a great idea.

These videos seem to be: anyone who doesn't fall in line, who doesn't think that everything Nintendo does is "the bestest thing in the whole wide world" will be made an example of. The response to Labo seems to be general positive, so this just comes across as a bit smug.

Adults complaining they don’t like something that was clearly not aimed at
them. Wow.

Well, the price is a bit high for all Switch accessories. I was hoping that won't wouldn't hurt them. They're rocking it right now so that's great. I have no interest in LABO, but some will. I say "good luck", hope it does well.

In regards to the comments about price... they seem to be ignoring the fact that the packs include a game which (based on typical Switch game prices) would likely cost £40-50 each on their own, so the toy-cons themselves are essentially only costing you around £20.
The sort of high quality cardboard they'd likely be using for this would not be cheap either... based on the prices I've paid for card in the past (for model making), the amount of card you'd get in each pack would likely come to around £10-15 just for the raw material, and if you were to then get it printed on and cut with precision you'd likely be paying the same again.
So £40-50 worth of game and £20-30 worth of card actually seems about right to me.

I’m going to buck the trend, apparently, by saying that I enjoyed the video. I’ll admit, I found some of Alex’s arguments lacking (I agree with the recyclability argument against plastic, but the storage one felt a bit straw-clutchy), but likewise with some of the comments! Opinions exist to be challenged, and that’s what Alex is doing, just as those who rail against his video are.

As for the grammar point, the only one that seemed to be seriously mocked was the utterly incomprehensible one. That’s not dyslexia, that’s poor communication. If you’re going to communicate in a written medium, I don’t think it’s too much to ask that your writing is baseline comprehensible.

I do agree that there is allways someone moaning when something cool get announced. Like the third best selling game on Japanese eshop.

Might pick up the robot set if I can get it very cheap later on, but in general this do not look like my thing.

Man, there's enough good content in this comment section to make a Part 2 to this video, and that's not even counting the YouTube comments.

@DragonEleven i love that people attempt to use this illogical argument about the "game that comes with it" - the game should cost no more than 20 dollars because that's how much its worth.

You can't tell me this game should be sold for the same price as BOTW or Mario Odyssey when the effort put into this game would have been no more than 1 weeks worth of coding by a handful of people. (it's a rudimentary flash game with limited features)

How can you even sit there and say that a game like this being sold for that price isn't over priced because other Nintendo games cost the same? That doesn't even make sense, it's also a slap in the face to all the developers that have been working hard on real games for the console, to have this piss-poor excuse for a game come in at the same price is insulting.

Let me guess, you were one of the people that actually tried to argue the case for 1-2 Switch being good value for money?

@DragonEleven You are reaching if you think LABO and BOTW should be matched in price. I presume you don't believe LABO took anywhere near as long or as much to make as BOTW? By this logic, all games should cost the same.

@Balladeer Agree that opinions are there to be challenged, but when one point of view has the means and the audience to pull off a video such as this, it comes off as smug. Now, if there was a counterpoint video also...I wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

Fun video. Personally I love the Labo Concept. A rainey Saturday morning making a piano with the kid followed by a bit of creative screen time is exactly the kind of fun indoor thing I’d like to do.

That said, $70 is too much for to pay on a casual whim. If I could get the piano sperateky for around $40 thenit puts it into gift territory. That’s just me though and I”m not saying the money isn’t worth the creative r and d, or the profit margin needed to make it worth while as a business “vertical.”

Well at least solid snake is happy lol.

@hylian-pudding yes because their kids who don't understand how money works will nag their parents into buying this over-priced piece of "creativity".

If you think a game that took no more than a week to code and a bunch of cardboard should be sold at a higher price point than a game like BOTW that took years to develop, then you really do not understand how the gaming industry works and you cannot understand that this type of thing is a slap in the face for any decent developer that takes pride in their work.

How would you feel if you built something that took you years to build only for it to be sold for less than something someone else took 1 week to build?

Would that make you feel good about your work? would you go out and build another?

If this price for such a rubbish game stays like this then it will lower the quality of other games like BOTW or Mario Odyssey as developers will just believe they can release garbage on the system and people will lap it up like they are doing right now with this cardboard rubbish.

LOL
Will you DIE if Smash Bros for Switch still hasn't announced yet ?
Please understand...

Both my kids saw the video annoucing the Labo. My youngest one (3 years old) loved it and "wants it all", my eldest (9 years old) said it could be interesting and definitely loved the robot set and both the piano and remote-controlled constructions. Still he did point out that they look fragile and that after some use the sets would become boring and would amount to a pile of cardborad on a corner. If a 9 years kid thinks this way i find myself wondering if this is really a good idea. It's innovative that's for sure and i do see myself helping and playing with my kids... but my eldest is right. All the toys I bought them that resemble some of the sets are now in the garage inside a box to be given away... and thay are not card made.

@Razer
Dear, Mr Razer.
Have you ever followed Art lesson at your school ?
There is NOTHING Wrong by doing Art & Craft in Video gaming.
And don't judge LABO by its looking.
There are some values that you still not understand yet.
It's about Art.
Feed your eyes with Beauty of Art.

If I hear any more false hype for this thing, I'm going to need a LABOtomy! -_-

...I get it - it looks like a quirky, fun and inventive product for a certain demographic - but some of the reactions from around the 'net have been, to put it lightly, excessive!

_{EDIT: Nothing against this particular article - it's more about the likes of GameXplain who will hype this beyond belief for a while (for clicks) then, when the time is right, casually reveal that they weren't that in to it to begin with (as per usual) ..ugh!}

@Razer LOL Are you serious? Dude, chill. You just sound butthurt to be honest. It's not "just cardboard", somebody designed that crap to be functional, and it comes with a game.

Well, I guess we have to buy a couple of Labos, not because they are fragile but in 10-20 years they will be the hot selling collectors item for future collectors.

I’m sorry, but those who are pitching a ***ch about Labo being announced over Smash Brothers are totally ridiculous and deserving of a playful jabbing. You’re basically acting like a child who has just had the best Christmas ever (the past ten months have been stellar!), but yet still pout because of the one gift you didn’t get!

Maybe it’s because I’m a parent, but I’m excited for this! I showed my three year old daughter the trailer, and she lit up! As I said in the comments of the announcement trailer, you guys seriously need to look at the big picture here. You’ll get your games, but what does a four/five year old care about Smash Brothers? You see Labo as an annoying kid’s toy that is taking up valuable R&D, but I see it as the perfect tool to introduce a young child to video games.

2018 is going to be great, trust me! We don’t even know of everything that’s coming, but we know that we’re getting:

-Yoshi
-Kirby
-Bayonetta 1+2 (maybe even 3)
-Dark Souls Remaster
-Maybe Metroid Prime 4
-Mega Man 11
-Travis Strikes Back
-Wolfenstein II
-a ton of great indie games
-DKC: Tropical Freeze
-whatever is going to be announced at E3.
-The World Ends With You
-Project Octopath
-Y’s
-whatever it is that I’m surely forgetting about.

Once more, you’ll get your games!

I thoroughly enjoyed this video, but I have a question: are the Amazon boxes in the UK really flimsy? The ones here in the States are amazing quality...I feel bad recycling them because they usually look brand new (and would be adequate I think for Labo).

This is my last comment on a Labo article. Ever. If it ain’t your thing, just move on, no need to get upset about it. I’m extremely excited by Labo, as an adult, a parent, and a tinkerer. And I’m equally certain they have a dedicated Labo team - they ain’t pulling anyone from making the next Pokemon or Smash or Zelda. Enough said

@Anti-Matter I believe in art which is why you are about to lose this debate.

If you are going to use this argument about "art" i am going to batter you senseless with it right now.

It took many developers years to develop a game like Legend Of Zelda: Breath of The Wild, it took a ton of artistic creativity and artistic talent in coding to make the game look as breath taking as it does, after years of this hard work from many developers (artists), it gets sold, it gets praised as being one of the best games ever created, a true piece of "art".

Now the very company that you worked your ass off for decided to commission for another game, that takes a week to develop because its so simple, the very same company decides that this game should come packaged up with lots of left-over cardboard they have sitting in storage and then they decide to sell said game for more than the game it took you years of ARTISTIC creativity to make.

Let me tell you something, if you think this is right, if you think this is justified to do this to an artist, then you have NO CLUE about art or games.

Labo is not this genius thing that only Nintendo could have thought of that is going to change the world.

Labo is also not garbage overpriced cardboard that is taking away from our games.

It is somewhere in the middle. Something that people will buy their children, maybe even me, that judging from what we've seen of the games, they'll play for a week and never touch again.

This is our new card reader.

@hylian-pudding uhhh lol did you even bother to read my comment? clearly not otherwise you'd know that i know it comes with a game, a very rubbish game...

@Razer But movie tickets or DVDs are not priced according to the 'artistic' value of the film or the time it took to shoot it, right? Plus I really doubt it took a week to create Nintendo Labo... -_-

@Razer
It's because you think games should be sooo... Plain without Unusual peripherals.
It was like Nintendo offered diferent kind of Menu but you suddenly rejected their ideas just because it looked like Kids Toy.
When i saw LABO for the first time, i was confused but suddenly i was mindblown by Surprising way of playing just by Cardboxes. It just a PLAIN Cardbox, NOT even looks like a painting, but it looks So Interesting to know and play. For me, it was Genius. Only Anti-Mainstream people can accept that idea so well.

@Bondi_Surfer
Me too.
We have same Hype about LABO, eh ?

i swear it's like every time Nintendo announced something. it's always "where smash" "where smash". smash 4 will come when it's ready.

@NaviAndMii
Yo, cheer up mate.
Let's gather around with users who are really Hyped with LABO.
We don't need to listen to Cry Babies ranting about Smash Bros 5 so much.

@Anti-Matter I'll do some yoga and see if I can find my inner peace again! (..and unsubscribe from GameXplain while I'm at it!)

@Mart1ndo
"If you want to make something just buy a Meccano set. It looks like much better value for money."

It's not about money.
It's about something from LABO.
Yes, if i'm parent i can buy my kids with LEGO or something else. But from my pount of view, LABO looks more interesting than any toys that i have ever seen. By introducing LABO to public, peoples will KNOW What it called LABO and how to play it. There is Nothing wrong by Introducing New Way of playing.
And who said kuds will not interested by carboxes ?
If they are introduced in early stage and also more activities involved by using cardboxes, it can build their knowledge about assembling something.
Comparing LABO with other toys is like comparing Between Bread and Noodle or Rice as Carbohydrate supply. Maybe you like Bread or other toys but i prefer LABO or Noodle for my Carbodydrate foods.

@LordGeovanni
To your benefit, at least you are not acting like the Labo announcement somehow destroyed all non labo products current and future and honestly, I wish I was making this up.

This isn't for me, and that's perfectly fine. They said up front before the direct that it would be something directed at kids. From that perspective, I think it's a great idea.

With that said, with what I've seen so far, I think it's going to be a terrible implementation of a great idea. First of all, it's cardboard and kids we're talking about here. Cardboard isn't exactly known for it's extreme durability and kids aren't known for being extremely careful. Combine that with an outrageous price, and I think this is a recipe for failure. Which is a shame, because I really do wish it would catch on and we would see more educational, robotics, programming, etc... related toys.

Hopefully if this is a success, there will be hefty price cuts and future products are made out of a more durable material, like plastic.

I still really hate the name. Like really really hate it. I think my mouth may actually have a problem pronouncing that many consecutive long O sounds and it isn't doing my brain any favors reading it either. "Switch Kits". Switch Kits. Switch Kits. Switch Kits.

Hey man what are you doing?
I'm building this really cool Switch Kit, wanna help?
Yeah sure, let's kick it.

or

Hey man what are you doing?
I'm building this really cool Nintendo Labo, wanna help?
Nintendo What-now?

Name aside, price could still be a factor. Took me an hour or so to accept the fact that it was priced accordingly for what it was - STEM activity made out of high grade cardboard with some Nintendo developed software, all 3 of which never come cheap. Go price some big cardboard block sets for kids, blocks that do nothing but sit there are boring rectangles, to see how much cardboard cost.

But it was a good move. It has potential.

As for SSB4D. Well I'm wondering if it's tied into the paid online. Probably one of the best games Ntinedo has to get people to pay to play online. If they announce the game first, release it, and then a month later start charging people to play online, well that isn't going to go over well. So we won't get the announcement for SSB4D until AFTER they start charging for online. Quite possibly SSB4 release day is the day they start charging.

And Labo has nothing to do w/ SSB. At all.

@RETRO_J - Having to train many in my time, I have to ask this; Do we actually -KNOW- if these people featured are impaired in some way? The patterns several come up in those posts suggest they are more likely to just not care about their grammatical prowess when getting emotional to whatever apparently ails them.

I mention that I train, and several positions I do this for you need a degree, and the letters I receive, the the reviews I must go over, are very much parallel to a few of these.

@rjejr
Hey !
Think about Japanese peoples, dude !
LABO is sounds Cool, you know. And Simpler than Switch Kits.
LABO itself probably from Laboratory word, the activities that also happen in that room.
If you can't say LABO correctly, try to learn Asian dialec.
Don't pronounce them in English pronounce, but instead, pronounce them in Japanese dialec.
Say Lah-Bow for LABO.

Why was my first comment removed? I bet it was because of the image. It was a cardboard box in the shape of "b".

@Anti-Matter dude forget the creativity of the idea itself, nobody is denying that it is a creative idea albeit aimed at children, that is not my point (which you keep missing again and again and again.... almost done commenting to you dude...)

My point is that it is being sold for more than games that took a TON more creativity and years more effort+time to create. You keep on justifying your opinion by returning to the "yea but it's creative" rubbish, which i am not denying!!!

like i said before a few days ago and i will tell you again, the creativity of the product is not under dispute, it is the price, it is a lot less creative than a game like BOTW but its been sold for more, that is a slap in the face for all the people who worked so hard on Mario odyssey or BOTW

"You could reveal the secret of eternal youth for free online tomorrow and still get some people complaining that they "don't wanna b kiddies 4 eva bro, gots me some CoD to play yall" or some other such nonsense. Sigh. "

Perfect.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE and all other comments in ref to it was also removed.

Becoming more and more fed up with this PC site to be honest.

For years everyone has been begging Nintendo to stop with the gimmicks. Mostly because they're silly and always turn out awful in the end. Hasn't everyone learned by now?

@subpopz the point isn't that it is detracting from other games, the point is that it's being sold for more than games that took 10X more time, effort and people to make.

It kind of makes spending years to develop a game pointless if you can get the same result on a game taken 1 or 2 weeks to make.

Why bother spending years making games like BOTW when you can makes games like Labo and 1-2 switch in 2 weeks and Nintendo drones will just purchase it because "creativity". it justifies lazy work ethic and it's a slap in the face of true artists that worked on BOTW or Mario.

I need that pink nintendo life tshirt

I love the folks calling these flash games or saying they were made in one or two weeks. I didn't know review copies were already out. Thought we all had only seen a few seconds of footage on a couple games.

@Nincompoop I’m 36 years old and have always loved Nintendo since I was 6.
Can’t really understand the complaints here, adults keep whining about Nintendo being a company for kids... but maybe they don’t know that MadWorld, or No More Heroes, or SilentHill Shattered Memories, or Bayonetta, or DOOM, aren’t exactly games for kids...
And I love Mario as much as I love Bayonetta, and I think that all this LABO stuff is great to play with kids and AS a kid... I’m not ashamed by saying I’m pretty interested in trying the Robot-Con set myself, it looks so fun to assemble before and to play with after, just like LEGO.

@Biff_ARMStrong they don't always turn out silly but it has been a very very mixed bag: WiiU, Virtual Boy, power glove among smaller but no less disastrous gimmicks like the N64DD or the Nes disc drive (was so unreliable that Nintendo had to offer tech support until 2004 for the silly thing).

Yea you would think that by now they would defo step back from it.

@Razer Ya, I missed that, must have been a lot of comments removed. I just got a PM about it. It was a joke and deliberate innuendo. It was an innocent image that could be construed in a couple of different ways. That line from Alex was just begging for a laugh.

@Razer Power Glove was from Mattel.

@Razer
Let me count for you.
$ 70 = 1 game software (around $40 - $50) + 28 Carboxes (assumed $ 15 - $ 20 altogether) + accesories to be pasted on cardboxes
For me, that's quite pretty deal. A bit expensive to be honest but it's WORTHY by the Excitement that i will get.
And LABO is NOT a Garbage !
What have you done here and on other threads are just FLAMING other users to Hate LABO ideas.
Trust me, it will NOT working.
Your Negativity about LABO will NOT discourage and stop me to enjoy LABO.
I will show it to you later once i got LABO, Dude !

@Shellcore @Razer I'm talking about the RRP, not the price they're actually sold for in shops... so the £40-50 I suggested for them is clearly below the £60 RRP of BotW.
We still know very little about the games themselves, but the variety game appears to basically be a mini-game compilation, akin to something like 1-2-Switch, which has an RRP of £40.
The robot game is likely far more substantial that what we saw in the limited look we've been given, so could quite easily be a full game in itself, and full games on the Switch typically come in at £50 RRP.

@RootsGenoa yes but it was made for Nintendo.

"Though it was an officially licensed product, Nintendo was not involved in the design or release of this accessory. Rather, it was designed by Grant Goddard and Samuel Cooper Davis for Abrams/Gentile Entertainment (AGE), made by Mattel in the United States[2]"

The Panasonic 3DO was the same really, it was made by a different company but licensed by Panasonic.

@Anti-Matter you can burn your money all you want i do not care what you do with your money but if you try to call cheap garbage like Labo creativity and art on the same level as games like BOTW or Mario Odyssey i won't be able to take you seriously, not as a gamer or as a person in general.

You can't sit there and tell me that rubbish like Labo should be sold for more than awesome games like BOTW, if you think that then you are not a true gamer, no matter how much you try to cry and tell me you are.

@Nincompoop Those self-called "adults" just need to grow up.

@Anti-Matter I think you are right about the name being because of the Japanese dialect. That was one of my first thoughts actually. Just because I don't personally like a name doesn't mean I'm not aware of reasons for it. When I first said Nintendo Labo out loud one of my first reactions was how much it reminded me of "domo arigato". Well "Domo Arigato Mr. Roboto" really, but that's besides the point.
FYI that's a song, my wife is a big Styx fan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51ybp_YFo7I

I still don't like it though. We're calling it Switch kits in our house, and I'll bet a lot of kids in school and summer camps will be calling them Switch kits as well. In the US anyway. They can call it whatever they like in Japan, Europe and the rest of the world. People in the US are not going to be talking to their friends about what Ntinedo Labo sets they do and don't have. I just don't expect to hear those words on the playground. We'll see.

I do know a lot of people playing that giant robot game will be blasting Mr. Roboto on their stereos while they play.

@DragonEleven well no because it's being sold for £59.99 for the variety pack (same price as BOTW) and the other pack is a tenner more expensive, if you want both your looking at paying 130 quid for the whole experience.

https://store.nintendo.co.uk/nintendo-labo.list?source=ppc&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqsf4s5ru2AIV6ZPtCh1OPQ6lEAAYASAAEgLEKfD_BwE&dclid=CIP3zbWa7tgCFYYi0wod9q8G8g

So products that took developers no more than a week or 2 to code and cardboard which you can get for free is being sold for more than a product that took developers years of hard work and creativity to make.

@DragonEleven Didn't want to nit pick you on the price. They are just as expensive as other Nintendo first party games, or more so.

@noobish_hat i am just going to quote this because i can't be bothered to get into the debate on the disc system, no it wasn't supported because it was popular, it was supported for so long because japanese people held it over Nintendo's head for so long for making such a bad piece of technology.

"While the Disk System was years ahead of its time in terms of a disk-format game console, the drive and disks both have reliability issues. The drive belt in the drive is a proprietary size, since standard floppy drive belts are too large. Until 2004, Japanese residents were able to send their systems to Nintendo directly for repairs and belt replacements, but Nintendo of America and the PAL regions do not service them as the system was not released in those regions. Due to a flaw in manufacturing, the old belts have a tendency to break, decompose, or occasionally melt.

In an effort to save money on production, Nintendo opted to not use disk shutters (a feature seen on 89 mm (3.5 in) floppy disks) to keep dirt out, instead opting to include wax paper sleeves as with the older 133 mm (5.25 in) disks. The only exception to this were certain games that were specially released on blue disks, which do have shutters.

Error messages produced during disk read operations are unusually simple, to the point where it is difficult to know what the exact problem is. Most in-game error messages during loading are often displayed as "Err. ##", with ## being the designated number for the type of error message; the most common ones are Err. 02 (the Disk System's batteries being low on power or with no batteries put in altogether), Err. 07 (Side A and B reversed when trying to load the disk), and Err. 27 ("Disk trouble", usually involving the disk surface itself, but can also be due to a belt replacement from an inexperienced technician, resulting in the disk drive's head being inaccurately aligned). However, the error messages themselves consist of little explanation (Err. 27, for example, only gives the accompanying message "Disk trouble") and in most cases within gameplay itself, such as Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, the error message is not given at all, with only the number code shown."

It was a deeply flawed piece of technology that stayed in Japan and didn't go anywhere else because of how problematic it was.

@noobish_hat also look up the word gimmick, because the disc system very much falls under the term of "gimmick"

@Razer
True Gamer can APPRECIATE and having fun with Something like LABO, Wiimote, etc.
Change your Mindset, your Egoistic perception about True Gamer.
I'm a Gamer, play a lot of Nintendo games with BOTH Gimmicks and Normal play. I enjoy BOTH of those methods.

Oh, how on Earth you compared LABO with Breath of the Wild ?!
They are NOT Even Same games.
That was like you compared between Simple food (LABO) and Complex flavour foods (Breath of the Wild).
I don't burn my money for LABO.
I give Contribution for Nintendo to Surprise me with Even better ideas.
I will crafting LABO seriously once the cardboxes on my hands.
With my hands and my brain, i will transform the "garbage" paper into Beautiful Amazing Toys, like Cinderella.
I'm an Amateur designer (Not graduated from Art degree) but i have talents about drawing and designing (as you can see from my avatar)
If you think to be a true gamer must be playing AAA level games, like Breath of the Wild, you were WRONG !

@rjejr
Don't forget about Tomodachi Life and Miitomo.
American now wil hear Tomodachi words from those games frequently.
The "Tomo" (Toh-Moh) & "Dachi" (Duh-Chee)

@Anti-Matter omfg you just MADE my point, congratulations on passing, i may consider you worthy of some attention in the future...you said it right there little man.

how can someone compare Labo to BOTW... so how can Nintendo charge more for Labo than for BOTW?

So using your logic against you, you would pay more money for rubbish bland food?

I am done replying to you because because you clearly have no clue what i am typing or at least you have limited understanding of it.... i am not saying a true gamer is someone who plays AAA games, i never once said that, but if you think its okay to charge someone more for Garbage like Labo than BOTW then you are not a gamer...

NOT because you prefer to play labo...but because of MONEY... look if you cant understand what i am typing then dont reply

What's Retro Studios been up too???

@Razer
Once again, LABO is NOT a GARBAGE !!
They are Art & Craft Kits bundled with Nintendo Switch game.
I pay $ 70 for an Artistic Art & Craft kits pkus the Switch game.
The only Garbage is your Negative comments toward Me and other users here !

I think there's a lot of people out there with tunnel vision that actually think that Nintendo has all their resources tied up in the development of Labo.

@Anti-Matter You probably aren't going to be surprised when I tell you this, but I don't like those names, Tomodachi and Miitomo, either. You do make a very good point, those Japanese style names, even Pokemon, have become a part of our culture, people, especially kids, know what they are. Maybe kids will think Nintnedo Labo is a great name. My sons are 13 and 15 and they didn't like the name, but teenage boys don't really like things, it's all about the sarcasm and disapproval with all things "kiddie' for them.

We do like telling people "Labo" is short for "large box" though.

@rjejr
LABO = LA(rge) BO(x) ?
Hahahaha....

Oh, don't forget about Romanized Japanese words from Street Fighter series.
We're always hear Hadouken, Kikkouken, Shoryureppa, Kasumi Suzaku, etc and we're so addicted with those names so why not Tomodachi or Labo ?

@Judas_Krimson I think Labo took some people by surprise, that's why they hated it.

Since Switch was introduced, Nintendo has marketed this console to adults, there's not a single kid in the launch ad. The constant release of games like Doom, LA Noire, Skyrim, and Resident Evil convinced people that Switch is not for kids. Even BotW was mature compared to previous Zelda games.

Only just a few days before Labo was disclosed, Dark Souls was announced as a new upcoming game in addition to Bayonetta. Then, out of nowhere Labo dropped on us and it confused a lot of people who thought that Nintendo had left the kid's department in the backroom for good.

The timing is the problem, a major kids-ware dropped right after Dark Souls announcement is too jarring.

Did anyone else hear the pilot wings music in the video? Love that song, so relaxing

@SimplyCinnamon53
Huh ?
From LABO trailer ?
On what minutes ?

@yuwarite
Yo, don't worry.
I'm single, not married but Love the LABO ideas.
I like Kiddie stuffs for a 33 years old adult male gamer.

@Anti-Matter At around 3:50 you can hear it pretty clearly in the video posted above

@Anti-Matter Sorry it’s actually at 3:30

This is amazing, thank you for this rebuttal of the haters. COmically, a good friend and I have been having a similar debate all week and im loving/relishing this video as your iteration of the same context I've been stating myself.

Labo looks amazing, if it's not for you, relax.

@RETRO_J he isnt listing their names/links, he's just reading comments. So it isnt like he's drawing attention to them in a crass way--its contextualizing the marketplace reactions (of a certain kind).

@Nincompoop Agreed on timing (though remember not even a year ago Reggie told us that 3DS was a great entry point for younger kids with a low price point, while Switch is more premium priced and targeted at an older audience which kids can grow into from 3DS. Now they're throwing $80 kidsware at the "grow into it premium" console. The changing narrative for the marketing angle of the moment is also jarring.)

But I also think it's one of those "left doesn't know what right is doing as usual" at Nintendo issues. In Japan Switch is a national way of life already, so everyone has one, and this gets the kids involved in the Switch around the house. No doubt Nintendo saw that and ran with it without considering the optics in the West where it's been trying hard to overcome "Kiddy console" imagery (which Sony willfully uses in their own spin.)

Labo will be a success in the short term for sure. But in the West it creates an image problem they were so successful at starting to overcome.

It might have been a good time to regionalize and release it in Japan first while the going is good, but hold back a year or two to release in the West so NoA/NoE could iron out their image and really solidify it before mixing messages. Japan has never suffered from the "need to be mature" syndrome the west has. The crushing weight of the salraryman's suit does that all by itself.

@sillygostly Agreed. The whole Labo idea is cool. The material is a very poor choice. But the price point is what makes it an internet beating post. $70-80 cardboard is just too juicy a beating post. When I pre-ordered my launch day Switch, Gamestop included a huge slab of cardboard absolutely free!

$300 Switch + $70-80 cardboard set is far from a kid friendly price. But if theyr'e trying to sell it as a kids to to play with parent's Switch (since Reggie kept telling us 3DS is geared to kids, and Switch is a higher price point for an older audience) then an $80 disposable kit isn't the right price either. People say it's a $60 game.......I highly doubt this mini-game collection meant to tie in with an accessory pack is a $60 retail game. Even 1-2-Switch faced big discounts to hit the numbers it hit. And for the "kids" audience that's currently mobile-obsessed they want to pull in, parents are used to $0.99 or free games for the kids, not $60 games. Even if we say it's a $40 game, that means $30-40 in cardboard.

Because of the current "STEM" obsessed guilt tripped parents, this will sell very well. But that doesn't mean the price point and value doesn't deserve significant ridicule. I'd have been more lenient on it if the game were a free download and each model were sold as cheap kits. I could see it in A.C. Moore, Michaels, Hobby Lobby, Zany Brainy (do they still exist?) etc. Little craft packs would be a gem. Monolithic $70 kits with a game......it WILL sell, but I don't think that's something for the world to be proud of. Not because it's a bad idea or product but because it's priced wrong and marketing-enhanced.

@rjejr I will always call it "Lab-o" Not "lah-bo". Most American kids will. And it kind of makes more sense that way, really.

"I do know a lot of people playing that giant robot game will be blasting Mr. Roboto on their stereos while they play. "

Now that says a lot about what we assume is the age group interested in the robot kit versus the hobby kit...............

I'm OK with the Labo, but please nintendo come out swinging with something other than ports as well

@rjejr My 8 & 11 year old sons both thought the name was dumb too, so it's not just teens that think that.

I personally think it will stick though.

Nobody is forcing me to buy it, so I'll skip this thing all together.
Every time Nintendo releases a "Gimmicky Mini-game" I tend to dislike the whole thing, and people have the right to complain about the price, it's their wallet.
But I still think that protesting with your money is more effective, don't like? Don't buy it.

@RETRO_J I suppose i see what you mean about crass in that sense--that he's (in some ways) mocking poorly-authored, ungrammatical comments.
But at the same time, i do sympathize with what he's doing here--a lot of negative commenters on the internet dont take time to truly explain their objections or think deeper than a superficial, off-the-cuff response. And i support pushing back on the illiteracy/internet culture of those sorts of comments. And maybe light mocking/rebuttal (even if a bit crass, in some senses) of those tones/attitudes has a place, especially if it makes younger/poor commenters realize how useless those responses really are.
I dont really see it as the tabloid thing...i actually support NL's stance here.....but hey, its your view, and valid as mine. ;']

@NEStalgia My opinion differs from yours a bit, but that comment was well written and some of your points I agree with.

I do feel that it seems like they are charging too much for the kits. I'm not getting hung up on the card board as much as you but I'm also predicting the games to be filled with short-lived mini games similar to 1-2 Switch. I also like your idea about providing the game as a free download and selling the individual kits for much cheaper.

@RETRO_J - I can partly agree with this. But the wording makes it sound like you'd be okay with them making a better video mocking ones with higher standards of their own opinions. Not sure if you want that, but wording comes off as such.

But makes me curious; If humor is something you personally wish to see NL attempt, what would you want reached? Humor rarely comes from something not ridiculed in some way, and sadly social media gives us an abundance of "shortcomings" that it's hard to not ignore and aim for higher fruit.

@Razer you Keep saying that the software took one week to code, which is a pretty obvious sign that you have no idea how coding and game development works. Read a book, it might help you learn a thing or two

The whole thing is such a refreshingly unique and clever concept. I just think the pricing is steeper than it has to be, considering the very low material cost and fragility of what you’re buying. But that’s just me. For those who have no problem paying $80 for cardboard and mini games, go for it and have a blast.

No really for me price seem's a little to high for what you are getting, but if Nintendo included a set of joy-cons with the sets for that price it would be a day one purchase for me.

@dkxcalibur I personally think it will stick though.

Well it will stick as in Nintendo isn't going to change it, and everyone will just call it Labo and deal with it. Labo isn't bad for a text to your friends, and that's the way most people communicate these days anyway, Labo is Labo, it texts for itself. And it's basically Lego and everybody says Lego on a regular basis, nobody complains about that. My problem is Lego is LAY-go and Labo is Lab-BOH b/c Nin-ten-DOH and La-BRUH-tore-ee. (I've never pronounced it La-BORE-a-tore-ee.)

Maybe if I start calling it LAY-bo rather than Lab-BOH? Hadn't thought of that, could work. Do you and your kids think it's LAY-bo or Lab-OH?

@dkxcalibur Thanks! Actually it was Nintendo's "customization kit" packaging that gave me the idea of the individual kits. At least for NA's retail model I can actually picture that setup better. Instead of one big $80 Labo box, I could see a whole "Labo endcap" in the crafts stores, each with rows of peghooks hanging the flat, light, relatively cheap model kids in rows. Not only does it present more shelf space/advertising, and a more economical sticker price for a clearly disposable craft item, but it's easier for kids to nag parents into buying $10 or less models one at a time over months/years than a giant $70 box. And easier to introduce new models to the market over time.

Just thinking of my own childhood, getting one big Labo box at Christmas would have been something I'd damage or be afraid to damage, or move on from in time. It would be fun and memorable but short. But the model kits are things I could maybe have received as treats for special events and holidays for years and would remember fondly today as a period of time. Like Nintendo Power magazines on the news rack. I never got them all but I loved collecting one for a holiday here and there or such!

One big $70-80 box of cardboard + minigame collection....they will convince people to buy it. It will be a market success. But I think at least in NA it could have become a bigger fad for a longer term if broken up into a system than a big box of boxes, AND would represent a better value and invite less ridicule.

@rjejr Lab-OH

@rjejr Who says "LAY-go?" It's always been leg-go 'round these here parts. And "LAB-oh" just has to be LAB-oh. Because lab-bruh-tory.

And you're still "reh-djur" in my head even if it's not what your name actually spells.

@NEStalgia "Now that says a lot about what we assume is the age group interested in the robot kit versus the hobby kit..............."

Well the kids will play it w/o the music, going "arrr" like monsters do, but when their kids go to bed the dads will be rocking out going "Crush, kill, destroy" to Mr. Roboto.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyGxJLCG6qw

I just did the whole LAY-bo Lab-OH thing above in post #125. I'm sure it's supposed to be Lab-O or Lab-BOH or something w/ a long accented O but I just can't. LAY it on me LAY-bo

@rjejr @NEStalgia

The fact that we're even having this conversation about pronunciation means that Nintendo might have missed the mark again with the name of one of their products....at least in NA.

@dkxcalibur Well that makes me feel better, I thought you guys were just piling on me being a nutcase.

@NEStalgia leg-go

It's not a waffle, it's a toy brick.

In my head "Lego my eggo" is "Le-GO my egg-OH". Lego the brick is LAY-goes. I've never liked the hard "guh" sound in Leg, LAY-go is just easier to pronounce. I grew up with LAY-goes not LEG-os. Though now that I think about it, I've probably been pronouncing them wrong, it is LEG-oes, not LAY-goes. Waddaya gunna do?

@NEStalgia reh-djur

That's pretty much exactly how I've always pronounced it, even though I've always known it wasn't spelled that way. Maybe a little more REE-jur but I am SO not good at pronunciations when I look at reh-djur that's how I read it. I couldn't' even find the upside down e key if I wanted too. Considering I started using it in JRPG where everybody had weird names anyway I was ok w/ that pronunciation in those games for rjejr.

I've never used it in real life so it's not like anybody calls me that, and no character in any video game has ever pronounced it either, they just go silent at that part. My family calls it re-jur when I play, they've watched me play a lot of games.

However you pronounce it, still better than Lab-OH.

@dkxcalibur Lab-OH

That's what I figured when you told me your kids made fun of it.

Can you do me a favorite and try out "Switch Kits" on'em? Maybe I can get it to catch on. Play this song for'em, it's motivational.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4xjr9v5ehk

"Where's Smash???" will be a complaint at every Nintendo announcement until it actually happens.

@rjejr Tomato, Tomahtoe, LAYbo, LABbo, it's still $70 for less cardboard than Amazon has given me for free in the past 6 months.

@dxcalibur Nah, kids will pronounce it however they first see it, probably "LAB-oh" because "lab" is a word they don't know, and soft Eurasian pronunciations of a vowel between two consonants is unknown to them unless their parents are immigrants speaking one of those languages in which case they'll call it LAH-Boh and the'll argue about it on the playground until little Billy rips someones Labo and then the fist fight start. And cardboard is not blood resistant.

Kids don't need for a word to actually make sense for it to make sense in their heads. They just repeat things. Like calling jrejr reh-djer.

@rjejr "Well that makes me feel better, I thought you guys were just piling on me being a nutcase. "

Oh nonono, we're all mad, here!

But yeah, I've never heard anyone NOT say "LEG-go". And yes, I think of "leggo my Eggo" every time I hear it as well.....always wondered how they didn't get sued!

My kids are almost done with high school, so at first I thought I would pass on LABO, but I think I may end up getting the variety pack. The piano looks intriguing.

@electrolite77 2 or 3 weeks because that's how long Nintendo need to make games these days and charge you drones 80 dollars to buy bundled with cardboard.

it will just be a port of an old Metroid on GC with updated graphics, they will package it with cardboard for you guys to run around in Metroid suits.

everyone will call it genius while the big N laughs allll the way to the bank.

You want to know what's funny, this is actually not a bad idea... LOL

I am under the impression these are grown and women throwing these ridiculous tantrums and fits over a product that was clearly stated as being geared towards kids and has no bearing on anything else Nintendo is doing. I have no problem with NL or anyone else knocking these folks down a peg or two. Not one of the arguments shown in the video is based in common sense and sounds more like complaining just to be complaining.

I mean the price seems high. But if it sells they made the right decision on price. They want to make lots of $ and if this sells it will.

@electrolite77 To be honest i would probably be partial to buying a GC remake of Metroid with updated graphics and a few extra features if it came with a plastic Metroid robo suit (plastic though, not cardboard) lol...

@NEStalgia "$70 for less cardboard than Amazon has given me for free in the past 6 months"

If you're not paying Amazon $99 per year for cardboard Jeff Bezos says your'e doing it wrong.

And if you dont' know how much cardboard kids toys cost b/c you've never purchased any, they're pretty much in line with what Nintnedo is charging for Lab-OH considering it also comes with software and the cardboard is elaborate and moves, not just boxes which can run $30-$50. The $70 5 kit set is right where it should be. That $80 robot better have 1 heck'uva game.

https://smile.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_6_9?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=cardboard+blocks&sprefix=cardboard%2Caps%2C144&crid=2Y3WRW63IZTKC

@Anti-Matter Street Fighter series

We don't play SF in our house, we only known Kamehameha

And we pronounce it "the ka-may-a-may-uh wave", NOT ka-may-ha-may-ha, that's just the noises they make when they do it.

@Nincompoop well Nintendo actually has always been for EVERYONE, kids and adults as well, everyone that have always thought Nintendo is just for children got it all wrong.
Now with Switch they were trying (and actually succeeding) to make it clear, make people understand that Nintendo’s last console is appealing to the grownups too, they just didn’t have the need to show kids again since everyone already know that and gave it for granted (Nintendo lovers and not as well).
I just got this LABO stuff as a reminder, like Nintendo kinda saying “Hey kids, we didn’t forget you here’s something nice for you to play with;)”
And it’s just beautiful, I don’t have kids but if I had I’d probably buy one of those kits.
And if I had spare money I’d probably buy one of those kits even if I don’t have kids, I’m really curious to see what’s like being a robot, it’s like becoming kids again.
I love this idea.
They’re all whining about it, but in spite of it Nintendo still has managed to come out with something new, no matter if you like it or not, no one have done it before (ok just to be clear, cardboard toys already existed but no one thought they could be combined with consoles and joypads).
You don’t like it?
Doesn’t matter, it’s clear that LABO is not for you anyway, go on and wait for the coming up Switch games you’re waiting for, and CHILL.
You like it?
Well, knock yourself out.

Yes, Nintendo Life Staff, keep supporting that echo chamber. It will make the site more interesting /sarcasm

Alright NL, thats enough Labo articles....

When i was a kid i had the NES, it launched with a toy robot. This generation of children now seems to me to have the strongest attachment rate to a Nintendo console since then. Almost everyone i know who has kids got them a switch for Christmas. Making a non complicated, easy to build and customise toy extension of a games console to me is genius.

@Damo - Thanks for the suggestion on going outside for a nice relaxing walk to chill, however I already get my oxytocin from cardo at the gym. Still a good tip I appreciate though.

It's true I do have hate for articles that come across as "clickbait", and some stuff on here that comes across as "unprofessional". Maybe I am trying to like this site, more due to site layout and users on here, but poor news and some other stuff "unprofessional" on here kills the mood for me.

That's all I have to say.

As Nintendo Labo - not my cup of tea, but I see why Nintendo would come up with this to market towards family/children (bad idea to focus on adult gamers alone IMO).

I have been a Nintendofan since i played snes at the age of 4.
Ive owned most nintendo console and seeing this Labo thing makes me think that this is a 1st April joke. Many Nintendofans seem to love it and hate people being against it. I dont know. Id love to be able to use my body to beat people in Smash Bros, i hope it comes one day, but id rather have plastic censors than using cartridge boxes all over my body making me look like the virgin protection joke pic. I wouldnt even buy this for a kid. What is it, 69.99 for some boxes? 0_0

@YamAsereht but not too busy to post a comment, it seems

.... 'something - anything - cool is announced, there will be a vocal minority who moan about it'.
Maybe but there will be others who just don't like the concept or the seemingly rip off price. They are expressing an opinion, not moaning.
The eternal life example could work the other way as well. Nintendo could introduce mario and the gang cigarettes and gamers would buy them. 🙄

@Razer You are hilarious.

@Nincompoop why? i really don't understand where's the problem

How can people hate the evolution of oragami? This is a good step in the right direction. If this came out 30 years from now everyone would have 3D printers and no one would be complaining lol.

@RETRO_J Uh oh, looks like you took the red pill and realized that NL doesn't necessarily have the desire to engage in an in-depth discussion with dissenting viewpoints, especially not if they're well reasoned. It's a classic tactic, eliminate the weakest target to make a point seem stronger than it really is. As a double whammy, it misdirects from how a discussion on the matter would actually evolve.

For example, I do think Labo has some good potential, but also have some qualms with it's fundamental shortcomings, such as not being built to stand the test of time. Responses I've seen on this criticism have ranged from wrapping the cardboard in ugly/gaudy hardening tape to "Who cares how long it lasts, it just exists to make Nintendo money and sell consoles." These can then both be countered with, "Should we even accept a product where the suggestion of the base material being fortified with ugly/gaudy tape is valid, just because it has the Nintendo label?" and "If it turns out the software is not so good, does basing the higher price on loose references to STEM constitute fraud on some level?"

That would actually be a challenging and stimulating discussion, though. We should expect that standard, but that doesn't necessarily get the clicks.

@electrolite77 Yea, i wish they would remake Super Metroid already, I honestly thought a remake was on the cards when they were remaking so much stuff a releasing it on the 3DS.

They also need to bring back F-Zero to be honest, Mario Kart is nice but it would be good to have a real adult racer game and F-Zero would do nicely.

@The_Mysteron Was that an attempt upstage me and act cool?

@drich255 Same. My kids are young enough to be the target market for Labo, but even if I didn't have kids I would still probably get the variety pack for myself just to see that sweet piano working! I think they're doing something new, interesting and (most-excitingly) unexpected. The industry needs new ideas badly before it stagnates. Again.

@YamAsereht Nope. Just having a bit of fun. You really couldn't be that busy if you're still posting replies. 😄

@dkxcalibur People thought the name Wii was dumb too. But it worked.

@Grumblevolcano from the subheading maybe?

@The_Mysteron Ohh, in that case please pardon my harsh tone in my message, fellow Paper Mario fan.

@RETRO_J i have to say as some one who dose have dyslxia i agree wholeheartedly agree with you and its the resion i dont post much on here or on the net in general as people are so bizy makeing fun of it that thay dont ever tkae the time to read what i say

Nop, pretty normal not to care about $79 cardboard boxes with what is basically an App.

@Agramonte I think it's a bit early to describe the software as 'basically an app' as we've only seen around 20 seconds of off-screen game footage.

@The_Mysteron I never said it wouldn't work, I just said we thought it was dumb. My sons and I do not work in marketing so our opinions don't carry much weight.

Yes, the Wii was a success, but could have a different name worked better? How about Wii U?

Personally I don't plan to buy the Labo kits. I think they're a bit too expensive, not because of the card board but because I'm predicting the games to not have longevity and to be boring after a few plays. Like I stated, I also think they could have picked a better name. However, I do think it will be a success; and for others it presents an opportunity to unleash that creative side while enjoying video games. I think this may potentially open the Switch up to some new markets. I also don't think this will hurt Nintendo's hard work in marketing the Switch to adults like other are saying.

@The_Mysteron I think it's a bit early to describe the software as 'A game' as we've only seen around 20 seconds of off-screen footage.

yet that does not seem to stop anyone